With a name like sufer"dude", I would have thought that you may have tried a puff here and there. And been able to know the difference and not just spew what the law can tell me.
I am 100% for legalizing and taxing the shit out of pot. But I am vehemently against it without an easy to administer driving under the influence or impaired test. It surprises me when seemingly intelligent people say things like "but I've been doing in for XX years and never crashed", or "but perscription drugs are allowed" or "but I drive like an old grannie". If getting baked makes you drive like an old grannie then you fucking are impaired and stay off the roads.
When people as a group show the want to take zero, absolutely zero fuckin' responsibility for their actions all the while crying about how unfair the law is, well I have no sympathy, none. The drug war on pot is a waste of money, it does help to fuel organized crime. But I'd rather that than every pot smoker think it's alegal, moral and responsible thing to do to get baked, get behind the wheel and drive out the Springfield to see where the Simpsons are made.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Lock him up. I want anyone driving 100 mph while impaired locked up.
Assuming he was impaired then I'd agree. But since it didn't say he was impaired then I'll stick by the old "innocent until proven guilty" thing. So I'll assume he wasn't impaired for now. The high speeds is far worse than drug possession IMO. He should absolutely punished for driving 100 mph. That's just ridiculous. The roads are dangerous enough without that kind of speed.
I notice all the emphasis is on the marijuana, but what about the Xanax, Valium, Vicodin?
The emphasis should really be on the fact that he was probably close to doubling the speed limit. Certainly more innocent people are killed by car accidents than by the use of marijuana, Xanax, Valium and Vicodin combined.
I am 100% for legalizing and taxing the shit out of pot. But I am vehemently against it without an easy to administer driving under the influence or impaired test. It surprises me when seemingly intelligent people say things like "but I've been doing in for XX years and never crashed", or "but perscription drugs are allowed" or "but I drive like an old grannie". If getting baked makes you drive like an old grannie then you fucking are impaired and stay off the roads.
When people as a group show the want to take zero, absolutely zero fuckin' responsibility for their actions all the while crying about how unfair the law is, well I have no sympathy, none. The drug war on pot is a waste of money, it does help to fuel organized crime. But I'd rather that than every pot smoker think it's alegal, moral and responsible thing to do to get baked, get behind the wheel and drive out the Springfield to see where the Simpsons are made.
Driving on the highway while stoned is a scary thing, don't do it. Driving go-carts while stoned is fun fun fun fun fun fun fun fun.
The emphasis should really be on the fact that he was probably close to doubling the speed limit. Certainly more innocent people are killed by car accidents than by the use of marijuana, Xanax, Valium and Vicodin combined.
I asked the question simply because many here seem to be up in arms about the possibility this guy was driving under the influence marijuana just because some was found in his vehicle. Xanax, Valium, Vicodin were also found and these medications are far more dangerous than marijuana.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I asked the question simply because many here seem to be up in arms about the possibility this guy was driving under the influence marijuana just because some was found in his vehicle. Xanax, Valium, Vicodin were also found and these medications are far more dangerous than marijuana.
I don't care the cause of the possible impairment, if impaired I'm fine with jail time.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I asked the question simply because many here seem to be up in arms about the possibility this guy was driving under the influence marijuana just because some was found in his vehicle. Xanax, Valium, Vicodin were also found and these medications are far more dangerous than marijuana.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I just believe driving 100mph is more dangerous than all of the above.
I don't care the cause of the possible impairment, if impaired I'm fine with jail time.
Did you mean that you don't care WHAT was the cause of his impairment, just that he was impaired? And I agree that driving 100 mph should be looked at very seriously.
Edit: Just a thought, a lot of over the counter medications impair driving abilities (trust me, you would not want me on the road after taking an antihistamine). Should the punishment be the same regardless of the legality of the drug in question?
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I am 100% for legalizing and taxing the shit out of pot. But I am vehemently against it without an easy to administer driving under the influence or impaired test. It surprises me when seemingly intelligent people say things like "but I've been doing in for XX years and never crashed", or "but perscription drugs are allowed" or "but I drive like an old grannie". If getting baked makes you drive like an old grannie then you fucking are impaired and stay off the roads.
When people as a group show the want to take zero, absolutely zero fuckin' responsibility for their actions all the while crying about how unfair the law is, well I have no sympathy, none. The drug war on pot is a waste of money, it does help to fuel organized crime. But I'd rather that than every pot smoker think it's alegal, moral and responsible thing to do to get baked, get behind the wheel and drive out the Springfield to see where the Simpsons are made.
I'll take getting people on Prozak off the road first for 200 Alex. Stupids you up a little more then the marrej does.
Edit: Just a thought, a lot of over the counter medications impair driving abilities (trust me, you would not want me on the road after taking an antihistamine). Should the punishment be the same regardless of the legality of the drug in question?
That's definitely something to think about. In my mind impairment is impairment. But there needs to be some wiggle room for someone just making the poor judgement of taking benedryl and not realizing it may affect his or her driving vs. someone being completely irresponsible and taking either impairing prescription or illegal drugs before getting behind the wheel.
Did you mean that you don't care WHAT was the cause of his impairment, just that he was impaired? And I agree that driving 100 mph should be looked at very seriously.
Edit: Just a thought, a lot of over the counter medications impair driving abilities (trust me, you would not want me on the road after taking an antihistamine). Should the punishment be the same regardless of the legality of the drug in question?
The impaired driving charge should be the same across the board. I don't care if it's alcohol, pot, heroin, or perscription drugs. Let's have a defined easy to administer test for impairment. For common drugs like alcohol and pot let's have a defined impaired level, like alcohol has 0.08 where I live, and 24 hr roadside suspensions where they make you park the car kick in at 0.06.
For pot the charges should be; one for driving impaired, one for any infraction being done, one for illegal possession if any found. For alcohol pretty much the same thing; one for driving impaired, one for any infraction being done, one for open alcohol in vehicle. For perscription drugs if legally obtained you could only charge; one for driving impaired, one for any infraction being done. For perscription drugs illegally obtained; one for driving impaired, one for any infraction being done, one for illegal possession of a controlled substance.
In every case driving impaired is stupid.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
OT a bit - I was behind a vehicle a week or so ago where the driver and passenger were literally beating each other up as they went down the road - punching, choking, slapping, pulling hair, etc. I couldn't tell if they were two guys, two girls or a combination. I thought I'd gotten ahead of them in traffic and was sitting in a left turn lane trying to decide if I had enough space to make the turn when they came from 3 lanes over on the right and made the turn I was contemplating right in front of me.
If that's not impaired, I don't know what is!
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I totally agree the dude must have been baked out of his mind going 100 when you have shit in your car. I drive like an old women if I smoke then drive but its just usually a 2 minute drive to taco bell for chalupas
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I know that stretch of 405 through southern Orange County... there a late-night "Carl's Jr." burger joint off the Freeway further South. My guess is he was trying to make there before they locked the doors.
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Hail, Hail!!!
Lock him up. I want anyone driving 100 mph while impaired locked up. I can't wait for the pot smokers to tell me that people smoking pot and driving impaired are no danger to anyone. I find those replies very humorous, especially given this moron's excessive speed.
And a Prius has no problem going 100 mph but probably not much faster. They have a combustion engine that is used almost entirely on the highway. The electric portion of the engine is primarily for city driving use.
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Lemme guess... you surf just South of the Newport pier, right?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Maybe so, but the point is that it's extremely arrogant to think that any of our actions...even any of our thoughts, do not affect other people.
.....if ones actions or thoughts make another uncomfortable (affecting)..or you don't like them.....too bad...now if ones actions cause you physical or monetary harm then you may be a victim. Playing word games does seem to be favored strategy by those attempting to support irrational views.
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Lemme guess... you surf just South of the Newport pier, right?
My closest surf place is Tofino in BC. Hitting up Australia in the fall though. I'm in Canada, the "northern border" reference acually refers to the Canada/US border.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
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Wait. Are you telling me that my sitting on the couch, eating popcorn and watching 'Law And Order' re-runs affects someone else? Who?
Well, it affects the people who sold you the couch, the people who made the popcorn, the people who did not get to eat the popcorn because you ate it, the ratings of the television show, etc., etc.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Well, it affects the people who sold you the couch, the people who made the popcorn, the people who did not get to eat the popcorn because you ate it, the ratings of the television show, etc., etc.
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Oh... come on, now... that's just being ridiculous.
How about me playing with my cat. Other than the cat... who is affected by that act?
My point is that not ALL your actions affect other people. Sure, buying popcorn affects the people who picks and packages it... but, the act of my eating it or leaving it in my pantry for 20 years does not affect them.
We are talking about actions in public... driving a vehicle, riding a skateboard or bicycle... yeah, possible direct contact with other people with possible adverse results.
And as for thoughts... I'm sure that a lot of people think about punching me in the face. I don't care... I can't read their thoughts. And even if I could, I STILL wouldn't care until they got up the nerve to try it. People's thoughts don't bother me... in fact, neither do their words. I'm more concerned with their actions, above all else.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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Oh... come on, now... that's just being ridiculous.
How about me playing with my cat. Other than the cat... who is affected by that act?
My point is that not ALL your actions affect other people. Sure, buying popcorn affects the people who picks and packages it... but, the act of my eating it or leaving it in my pantry for 20 years does not affect them.
We are talking about actions in public... driving a vehicle, riding a skateboard or bicycle... yeah, possible direct contact with other people with possible adverse results.
And as for thoughts... I'm sure that a lot of people think about punching me in the face. I don't care... I can't read their thoughts. And even if I could, I STILL wouldn't care until they got up the nerve to try it. People's thoughts don't bother me... in fact, neither do their words. I'm more concerned with their actions, above all else.
I disagree.
(If you're playing with the cat, then you're affecting the ratings of that Law and Order show and allowing someone else to eat the popcorn! )
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I totally agree the dude must have been baked out of his mind going 100 when you have shit in your car. I drive like an old women if I smoke then drive but its just usually a 2 minute drive to taco bell for chalupas
From personal experience he wasnt going 100 MPH because he was BAKED, he may have been mentally unstable or whatever, who knows. If he was just chilling baked he'd be going about 50 zoning to some music pondering his situation.
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Not for me. I don't think anything we do in life is victimless.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
When people as a group show the want to take zero, absolutely zero fuckin' responsibility for their actions all the while crying about how unfair the law is, well I have no sympathy, none. The drug war on pot is a waste of money, it does help to fuel organized crime. But I'd rather that than every pot smoker think it's alegal, moral and responsible thing to do to get baked, get behind the wheel and drive out the Springfield to see where the Simpsons are made.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I asked the question simply because many here seem to be up in arms about the possibility this guy was driving under the influence marijuana just because some was found in his vehicle. Xanax, Valium, Vicodin were also found and these medications are far more dangerous than marijuana.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Then it looks like we agree
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Did you mean that you don't care WHAT was the cause of his impairment, just that he was impaired? And I agree that driving 100 mph should be looked at very seriously.
Edit: Just a thought, a lot of over the counter medications impair driving abilities (trust me, you would not want me on the road after taking an antihistamine). Should the punishment be the same regardless of the legality of the drug in question?
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I'll take getting people on Prozak off the road first for 200 Alex. Stupids you up a little more then the marrej does.
For pot the charges should be; one for driving impaired, one for any infraction being done, one for illegal possession if any found. For alcohol pretty much the same thing; one for driving impaired, one for any infraction being done, one for open alcohol in vehicle. For perscription drugs if legally obtained you could only charge; one for driving impaired, one for any infraction being done. For perscription drugs illegally obtained; one for driving impaired, one for any infraction being done, one for illegal possession of a controlled substance.
In every case driving impaired is stupid.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
If that's not impaired, I don't know what is!
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
true true.........I'd then say your creating more victms by buying those Nikes, driving that truck or SUV and most definitely voting for W.
Maybe so, but the point is that it's extremely arrogant to think that any of our actions...even any of our thoughts, do not affect other people.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I know that stretch of 405 through southern Orange County... there a late-night "Carl's Jr." burger joint off the Freeway further South. My guess is he was trying to make there before they locked the doors.
Hail, Hail!!!
Lemme guess... you surf just South of the Newport pier, right?
Hail, Hail!!!
.....if ones actions or thoughts make another uncomfortable (affecting)..or you don't like them.....too bad...now if ones actions cause you physical or monetary harm then you may be a victim. Playing word games does seem to be favored strategy by those attempting to support irrational views.
So, do some of you think he should still go to jail?
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Wait. Are you telling me that my sitting on the couch, eating popcorn and watching 'Law And Order' re-runs affects someone else? Who?
Hail, Hail!!!
Well, it affects the people who sold you the couch, the people who made the popcorn, the people who did not get to eat the popcorn because you ate it, the ratings of the television show, etc., etc.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Oh... come on, now... that's just being ridiculous.
How about me playing with my cat. Other than the cat... who is affected by that act?
My point is that not ALL your actions affect other people. Sure, buying popcorn affects the people who picks and packages it... but, the act of my eating it or leaving it in my pantry for 20 years does not affect them.
We are talking about actions in public... driving a vehicle, riding a skateboard or bicycle... yeah, possible direct contact with other people with possible adverse results.
And as for thoughts... I'm sure that a lot of people think about punching me in the face. I don't care... I can't read their thoughts. And even if I could, I STILL wouldn't care until they got up the nerve to try it. People's thoughts don't bother me... in fact, neither do their words. I'm more concerned with their actions, above all else.
Hail, Hail!!!
I disagree.
(If you're playing with the cat, then you're affecting the ratings of that Law and Order show and allowing someone else to eat the popcorn!
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Well... either way... the cat seems to enjoy it.
Hail, Hail!!!
From personal experience he wasnt going 100 MPH because he was BAKED, he may have been mentally unstable or whatever, who knows. If he was just chilling baked he'd be going about 50 zoning to some music pondering his situation.