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kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
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Gore's Son Arrested On Drug Suspicion
Al Gore III Was Speeding In Prius, Police Say

POSTED: 1:15 pm EDT July 4, 2007
UPDATED: 1:32 pm EDT July 4, 2007

LAGUNA NIGUEL, Calif. -- Former Vice President Al Gore's son has been arrested in California on suspicion of possessing marijuana and prescription drugs, after he was stopped for speeding.

Authorities said Al Gore III was driving a Toyota Prius at about 100 mph on the San Diego Freeway when he was pulled over at about 2:15 a.m.

Deputies said they smelled marijuana and searched the car. They said they found less than an ounce of pot along with Xanax, Valium, Vicodin and a prescription drug that is used for attention deficit disorder.

Sheriff's officials said Gore does not have a prescription for any of those drugs.

Gore is being held in Santa Ana, with bail set at $20,000.

Kalee Kreider, a spokeswomen for his parents, did not immediately return phone messages to The Associated Press on Wednesday.
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    First off, the idea of a Prius going 100 mph cracks me up...

    But anyway, as someone who must plead the fifth when it comes to the use of these drugs, but mostly as someone who's tired of the injustice, isn't it time to stop filling the prisons (privitzed labor camps) with those who don't have someone that can afford to bail them out?? No crime has been committed. People who sell crack should be arrested, but addicts and people who use recreational drugs that are less harmful than alochol (if harmful at all) should be given treatment and/or guidance about their addictions/habits and set free.
  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    I demand a Bush pardon!
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Lock him up. I want anyone driving 100 mph while impaired locked up. I can't wait for the pot smokers to tell me that people smoking pot and driving impaired are no danger to anyone. I find those replies very humorous, especially given this moron's excessive speed.

    And a Prius has no problem going 100 mph but probably not much faster. They have a combustion engine that is used almost entirely on the highway. The electric portion of the engine is primarily for city driving use.
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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    First off, the idea of a Prius going 100 mph cracks me up...

    yeah, um, is that even POSSIBLE??? LOL!!!!
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  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    Maybe his mom should have spent less time fighting for adult lyrics advisory and more giving him driving lessons?
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    meme wrote:
    Maybe his mom should have spent less time fighting for adult lyrics advisory and more giving him driving lessons?

    reason numero uno why I didn't vote for Al in 2000.
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  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    He sounds more like the son of George Bush than Gore, except he would have been driving as bigass Hummer.
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  • bingerbinger Posts: 179
    I guess this isn't the first time this has happened. Probably get a slap on the wrist seeing as how he's connected and wealthy. On the other hand I heard on the radio that some guy in Utah or Arizona got 55 yrs for sellin less than an ounce to an undercover cop.
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  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    godpt3 wrote:
    reason numero uno why I didn't vote for Al in 2000.

    Well, I'd still take lyrics advisories over an irrational and murderous foreign policy :)
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  • OneLoveOneLove Posts: 563
    meme wrote:
    Well, I'd still take lyrics advisories over an irrational and murderous foreign policy :)

    I didn't want to point that out, but I'm glad you did :)
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    100mph in an eco car kind of defeats the purpose...

    Oh well...at least he wasn't on crack or drunk off his ass.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    godpt3 wrote:
    reason numero uno why I didn't vote for Al in 2000.

    This is an unusual statement. Does Gore's son do this all the time and get caught or something?
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    This is an unusual statement. Does Gore's son do this all the time and get caught or something?
    I think he was refering to the whole 'tipper sticker' thing.
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    I say lock him up for 100 years. Jackasses like him are the reason why I get treated like a pill junkie every time I go to the doctor and ask for pain medication for my back pains. It's harder to get a percocet prescription than it is to buy heroin.
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    surferdude wrote:
    Lock him up. I want anyone driving 100 mph while impaired locked up. I can't wait for the pot smokers to tell me that people smoking pot and driving impaired are no danger to anyone. I find those replies very humorous, especially given this moron's excessive speed.

    And a Prius has no problem going 100 mph but probably not much faster. They have a combustion engine that is used almost entirely on the highway. The electric portion of the engine is primarily for city driving use.

    Did it say he was impaired?
    I don't smoke anymore but I've had some stuff and pipes that wreaked without smoking it. If those were in my car there is a good chance a trained nose could sniff that out.
  • frusciante89frusciante89 Posts: 125
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    First off, the idea of a Prius going 100 mph cracks me up...

    But anyway, as someone who must plead the fifth when it comes to the use of these drugs, but mostly as someone who's tired of the injustice, isn't it time to stop filling the prisons (privitzed labor camps) with those who don't have someone that can afford to bail them out?? No crime has been committed. People who sell crack should be arrested, but addicts and people who use recreational drugs that are less harmful than alochol (if harmful at all) should be given treatment and/or guidance about their addictions/habits and set free.
    I totally agree the dude must have been baked out of his mind going 100 when you have shit in your car. I drive like an old women if I smoke then drive but its just usually a 2 minute drive to taco bell for chalupas
  • frusciante89frusciante89 Posts: 125
    I think it should be a right to inject whatever chemicals you want into your body as long as your not dangering the general public while doing so. and does making anything illegal stop anybody from smoking pot or any drug?
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    surferdude wrote:
    Lock him up. I want anyone driving 100 mph while impaired locked up.

    It doesn't say whether he was under the influence or not. If he was impaired I think he deserves punishment e.g. driver's license suspension (for a while), or like mr Olav says he should be given guidance or treatment.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    surferdude wrote:
    Lock him up. I want anyone driving 100 mph while impaired locked up. I can't wait for the pot smokers to tell me that people smoking pot and driving impaired are no danger to anyone. I find those replies very humorous, especially given this moron's excessive speed.

    And a Prius has no problem going 100 mph but probably not much faster. They have a combustion engine that is used almost entirely on the highway. The electric portion of the engine is primarily for city driving use.

    I spoke pot all the time in my car. On the way home from work. On vacations in my own country. Even in the States back before they went crazy. Of course you had to be a little more careful in the military states. So I will speak up with no accidents to speak of and I have been driving for 24 years.

    And yes I will say that drinking and driving is bad.

    Too bad this guy wasn't just smoking pot, eh. Then your rant would hold some water. They don't put the warnings on prescription drugs because you shouldn't be operating a vehicle. Better yet mixing the things and then driving.


    With a name like sufer"dude", I would have thought that you may have tried a puff here and there. And been able to know the difference and not just spew what the law can tell me.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    I find it a gross waste of taxpayer money and prison space to lock up non violent drug offenders.

    Treatment and education are a much more effective method of prevention.

    In the current environment of drugging ones kids from birth, I'm suprised it's not even more common.

    20,000 bail is also ridiculous. 5K is more than enough to prevent a normal person from blowing off the court.


    Honestly I've yet to discover why pot is illegal while it's perfectly legal to smoke tobacco in ones car even while driving. (well other than the obvious special interest lobby groups) Neither one impair you all that severely as they both essentially relax the user. I'm more concerned with the lack of attention placed on driving while one is smoking rather than the particular weed they happen to be puffing on.

    If he was indeed going 100 miles an hour and doing all sorts of things while doing so he should be locked up for driving like a maniac but not for drug possession.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    frusciante89 wrote:
    I totally agree the dude must have been baked out of his mind going 100 when you have shit in your car. I drive like an old women if I smoke then drive but its just usually a 2 minute drive to taco bell for chalupas

    rofl...how true this is

    cruising at 100 and packing? Russian roulette.

    what a tard...
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    I find it a gross waste of taxpayer money and prison space to lock up non violent drug offenders.

    Treatment and education are a much more effective method of prevention.

    Should we extend that leniency to all offenders of non-violent crimes, or just the drug users?
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    I find it a gross waste of taxpayer money and prison space to lock up non violent drug offenders.

    Treatment and education are a much more effective method of prevention.

    In the current environment of drugging ones kids from birth, I'm suprised it's not even more common.

    20,000 bail is also ridiculous. 5K is more than enough to prevent a normal person from blowing off the court.


    Honestly I've yet to discover why pot is illegal while it's perfectly legal to smoke tobacco in ones car even while driving. (well other than the obvious special interest lobby groups) Neither one impair you all that severely as they both essentially relax the user. I'm more concerned with the lack of attention placed on driving while one is smoking rather than the particular weed they happen to be puffing on.

    Yeah what's up with that? The set bails I'm reading about lately are I-N-S-A-N-E!

    As to the driving high thing...you get lightweights and first timers (or no timers) that think other people are crazy as they can only use their own brain as a reference. Those are the ones that usually seem to voice any significant pinion over it.

    When do I drive my best? Stone cold sober and well rested. Does pot make me a dangerous driver...hell no. Is it that way for everyone...probably/definitely not.

    Would I prefer everyone drives sober and alert?...yes.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    know1 wrote:
    Should we extend that leniency to all offenders of non-violent crimes, or just the drug users?


    I'm pretty much cool with that really, I'd rather see a harder influence on real, productive community service and severe fines placed on your average white collar crime.

    Road clean up, feeding the homeless etc... should be performed by non violent criminals. Sitting in jail does them no good and it does society no good.

    The fines should discourage theft and fraud because the penalty should be very harsh monitarily, add that to huge amounts of community servitude, and that's an effective prevention. My idea is that if you are going to take someones time and freedom away because they have acted poorly, make it at least productive. Not only that, say they end up working on a habitat house or something to that effect, when they finish thier servitude, they have something they have accomplished, that they can be proud of, rather than sit in prison and waste time.

    If they are too violent to act in society, then we lock them away from it.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    I'm pretty much cool with that really, I'd rather see a harder influence on real, productive community service and severe fines placed on your average white collar crime.

    Road clean up, feeding the homeless etc... should be performed by non violent criminals. Sitting in jail does them no good and it does society no good.

    The fines should discourage theft and fraud because the penalty should be very harsh monitarily, add that to huge amounts of community servitude, and that's an effective prevention. My idea is that if you are going to take someones time and freedom away because they have acted poorly, make it at least productive. Not only that, say they end up working on a habitat house or something to that effect, when they finish thier servitude, they have something they have accomplished, that they can be proud of, rather than sit in prison and waste time.

    If they are too violent to act in society, then we lock them away from it.

    I can see that. At a glance, it sounds reasonable.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    He should be cited for speeding and if he was under the influence of weed or alcohol, then he should be charge for that.

    Jail time is stupid though... while a fine wouldn't be much of a hardship for him or his family, if he is guilty then he should have to pay a fine and serve some type of community service as punishment.
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,749
    just another ignorant pothead getting behind the wheel of a car and jeopardizing the lives of others.....

    i hope the pothead gets prison time........
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    know1 wrote:
    Should we extend that leniency to all offenders of non-violent crimes, or just the drug users?

    lets then say victimless instead of non-violent. better?
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    just another ignorant pothead getting behind the wheel of a car and jeopardizing the lives of others.....

    i hope the pothead gets prison time........


    whhhee...smoke a joint...get laid :D
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  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    I notice all the emphasis is on the marijuana, but what about the Xanax, Valium, Vicodin?
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