The next smear campaign: "phoney soldiers"

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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    With this administrations record, do you really think a smear campaign is needed? THe truth is right in everyones face. Rush and oreilly try to distract people from the truth. They did it before the war and they are still doing it.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Open wrote:
    With this administrations record, do you really think a smear campaign is needed? THe truth is right in everyones face. Rush and oreilly try to distract people from the truth. They did it before the war and they are still doing it.

    wow, what a truly brilliant post...what a contribution you've made to our understanding of media, partisanship, and global politics...you are to be commended.

    brilliant!
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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    wow, what a truly brilliant post...what a contribution you've made to our understanding of media, partisanship, and global politics...you are to be commended.

    brilliant!

    Glad you agree, maybe it will stick.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    and another thing...Rush is the greatest political communicator of our time because he INSPIRES you...listen to his show and you feel inspired...

    you read chomsky and zinn...of course you are going to have your head half into the oven...who the hell wants to sit there and be belittled with guilt? don't we have enough guilt?

    wow, someone i can relate to
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    and another thing...Rush is the greatest political communicator of our time because he INSPIRES you...listen to his show and you feel inspired...

    you read chomsky and zinn...of course you are going to have your head half into the oven...who the hell wants to sit there and be belittled with guilt? don't we have enough guilt?

    Sorry man, but Rush makes me want to pull my car across the median on the interstate hoping that an oncoming 18 wheerler puts an end to my life before I have to hear the next word that comes out of my mouth. There is no hope in anything that man says.

    Obamas book, now there is something that gave me hope.
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  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    my2hands wrote:
    this has nothing to do with an illegal war that has slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent people

    when will people stop nit picking the small stupid shit that fits their view and agenda and start dealing with the real issues?

    probably never from some of them, considering they have lost almost all justification for these actions



    how is this war illegal?
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    810wmb wrote:
    how is this war illegal?

    Pretty sure lying about reasons for going to war would be considered illegal. Not only that, but there's been no "declaration of war" from the Congress. Then again, there hasn't been one of those since December 8, 1941.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Sorry man, but Rush makes me want to pull my car across the median on the interstate hoping that an oncoming 18 wheerler puts an end to my life before I have to hear the next word that comes out of my mouth. There is no hope in anything that man says.

    the question isn't necessarily is there hope in what he says, but truth in what he says? I know that he can be an ass at times ( just as every political pundit commentator can be), but a lot of times his observations are correct. I work with a guy who is in his mid 60's and has been a democrat his whole life and he commented the other day on the absurdity of the phoney soldier thing and he said that even though Rush pisses him off a lot (in what he says and how he says it), Rush is still correct in most of his observations.

    I don't want someone giving me hope if they can't follow through with it and i don't want hope at the sacrifice of truth; which is what the gov't has been doing for years.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I'll agree that it is absurd. Rush Limbaugh, moveon.org, or anything similar to those two should never reach the floor of the Congress. They have the peoples work to do, which doesn't include condemning ads or what someone says on the radio. Get back to the actual business, not this garbage.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    The outrage over Rush's comments is as stupid and worthless as the outrage over the move-on Petraeus ad.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I'll agree that it is absurd. Rush Limbaugh, moveon.org, or anything similar to those two should never reach the floor of the Congress. They have the peoples work to do, which doesn't include condemning ads or what someone says on the radio. Get back to the actual business, not this garbage.


    I thought that too, but with their record the past several years, I might actually prefer them wasting their time with this crap instead of wasting their time passing laws that screw us further.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I'll agree that it is absurd. Rush Limbaugh, moveon.org, or anything similar to those two should never reach the floor of the Congress. They have the peoples work to do, which doesn't include condemning ads or what someone says on the radio. Get back to the actual business, not this garbage.

    If they don't do the absurd / easy work...then they'll REALLY be unproductive :) And besides i'm not too sure if I want those guys making the real difficult decisions if the best they can do in the last 2 weeks is Rush and Moveon.
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Purple Hawk,
    this may be the only thing we ever agree on.

    It is unfortunate and absurd the way this oganization and the media sharks have misrepresented Rush's position on this.

    Oh well.

    The other tragedy is that it is just as bad as an Anna Nicole or Natalie Holloway in the way that the story detracts from real issues debate & discussion.

    :(
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  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Pretty sure lying about reasons for going to war would be considered illegal. Not only that, but there's been no "declaration of war" from the Congress. Then again, there hasn't been one of those since December 8, 1941.

    well, the whole world lied with us then....everybody backed it
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Purple Hawk,
    this may be the only thing we ever agree on.

    It is unfortunate and absurd the way this oganization and the media sharks have misrepresented Rush's position on this.

    Oh well.

    The other tragedy is that it is just as bad as an Anna Nicole or Natalie Holloway in the way that the story detracts from real issues debate & discussion.

    :(

    consider that TWO things we agree on...

    maybe a third point of agreement...people on the left don't hate America and don't want the terrorists to win...people on the right aren't hatemongering racists....

    kind of screwed up we have to agree on the obvious...at least it's a start!
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    blackredyellow wrote:
    The outrage over Rush's comments is as stupid and worthless as the outrage over the move-on Petraeus ad.

    agreed...b/c both were manufactured by liberals. rush never said what libs think he said. sorry, the era of the left interpreting, instead of listening to what conservatives actually say is over.

    so yes, we agree that the liberal smearing of a four star general and the liberal smearing of a drug-addicted private citizen is stupid!
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    agreed...b/c both were manufactured by liberals. rush never said what libs think he said. sorry, the era of the left interpreting, instead of listening to what conservatives actually say is over.

    so yes, we agree that the liberal smearing of a four star general and the liberal smearing of a drug-addicted private citizen is stupid!

    Petreus is a tool/liar. I think that was the gist of the MoveOn ad. I don't see partisanship in that. Some of the Republicans at that hearing had the pitiful presence of mind (for lack of a better term) to cry about that rather than focus their questioning on what good this surge was actually doing.
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  • Purple Hawk
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    gue_barium wrote:
    Petreus is a tool/liar. I think that was the gist of the MoveOn ad. I don't see partisanship in that.

    oh, totally...no partisanship in that...clearly an objective view.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    oh, totally...no partisanship in that...clearly an objective view.

    Oh c'mon, you don't see through the Petreus BS? He's a tool of the neverending war-mongers. Who benefits from the neverending war?
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    gue_barium wrote:
    Oh c'mon, you don't see through the Petreus BS? He's a tool of the neverending war-mongers. Who benefits from the neverending war?

    Oh lemme see...

    I can't think of anyone.

    This is difficult. I'm questioning my logic here.

    I think Petreus may really be a true blue red-blooded American Patriot.
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