I heard some stupid shit before but...why exactly are we fighting in Iraq again? What was Bush's response to 9/11? Bomb Iraq.
wake the fuck up...
no comment on the democratic quotes?
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I don't have to pick a piece of shit apart and taste it to know what it is...lol
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The Dems are spineless no doubt.
However, the charge to invade Iraq was driven completely and wholely from the Defense Dept and the VPs office. It was their idea and their "grand vision". The Democrats didnt have the stones to confront them.
And the way the Bill was presented in Congress and the subsequent campaigning around the Iraq war bill was utterly shameful but I certainly dont put that past the Bush admin.
The bottom line is this. They wanted to invade IRaq. They shaped intel to fit the policy. The fucked up the handling of the war thanks to Rumsfeld. It is a massive catastrophe. Attemtping to project GWBs failures on the Dems is lame and revisionist.
"Sean Hannity knows there is no greater threat to America today than Bill Clinton 15 years ago"- Stephen Colbert
uh...do you realize those quotes were months AFTER we enforced the UN resolutions? like 6 to 7 months after?
also, do you realize that you are quoting poll results and a question to the VP about them. direction of causality...can you provide any evidence that any evil neo-cons put that idea out there to cause public opinion?
normally, people draw conclusions about causality when someone does X, and y occurs. the left is seeing that Y happened, so X must have preceeded. and there's no evidence of it...but if it fits the template.
Honestly - its a lost cause.
I didnt even mention the "Mohammed Atta met with a senior Iraqi Intelligence offiicial in Prague" BULLSHIT that Cheney spouted (used the term "pretty well confirmed") on MTP BEFORE the invasion in another subtle attempt to link the two.
He KNEW it was false. But I am sure you will deflect again so I will stop now.
"Sean Hannity knows there is no greater threat to America today than Bill Clinton 15 years ago"- Stephen Colbert
"Our Capital lied and people died" is fine by me, however, a fact that is largely ignored is that the President is commander-in-chief of the armed forces. He gives the final authorization on where the troops go, what they do, and the motive for such.
let's not derail the thread my anti-capitalist friend....
the point of this thread is that the "bush lied" bumper sticker slogan is poop.
this whole backwards logic that lots of people think iraq was behind 9/11 so bush must have said it mentality...it never happened. and the thing is...liberal democrats made connections that bush did.
i'm just engaging in a dialogue my friend
The U.S. government is full of idiots, thanks for the newsflash. Purple Hawk's next thread is "Ice is cold."
one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
my point is is that anyone saying that "bush lied" is lying.
thats really all that needs to be said right there. but the libs that cry about bush lying are just playing to their base. and they eat it up, even though its a lie. and they actually think we're the ones being fooled.
nah bro, I get it. I'm just saying that I agree, the dems are as backwards as the republicans. It's wrong to only blame bush and co when = blame should be put on the dems.
i think your missing something here..
your president and his staff lied to the world..and keep lying...and keep lying..who cares what he supposedly represents...and if you look at history and party affiliations you will understand he doesnt represent republicans..he represents his fortune.
thats really all that needs to be said right there. but the libs that cry about bush lying are just playing to their base. and they eat it up, even though its a lie. and they actually think we're the ones being fooled.
are you saying the administration and bush never lied about anything?
do you all understand what it means that the person who represents '' YOU '' has lied to not only '' YOU '', but the entire world... and we are debating PARTY AFFILIATION?
do you all understand what it means that the person who represents '' YOU '' has lied to not only '' YOU '', but the entire world... and we are debating PARTY AFFILIATION?
brain dead? got a fuckin bullet in your head...
Come on you know that the majority of American voters will continue to support their party and point blame on the oppossing party regardless of the fact that both parties are ass raping this country.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Come on you know that the majority of American voters will continue to support their party and point blame on the oppossing party regardless of the fact that both parties are ass raping this country.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Mrs. Bill Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source
Was Mrs. Bill Clinton saying that Saddam was responsible for 9/11? Sounds like it to me!
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Nice try.
But, last time I checked... a Senator from New York is not the one who commits our troops to war.
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Also, a lot of people believed the Hussein/W.M.D./Al Qaeda thing because we were being told by our government about them. Since I do not have access to the data collected by surveillance satellites, Reconnaissance aircraft photos, on-ground intelligence reports or Iraqi dissident insider's claims... I have to believe them. But, just because we believed them, doesn't mean it's the truth, does it?
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Come on you know that the majority of American voters will continue to support their party and point blame on the oppossing party regardless of the fact that both parties are ass raping this country.
Thanks for the ass raping visual.
one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Comments
no comment on the democratic quotes?
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I don't have to pick a piece of shit apart and taste it to know what it is...lol
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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The Dems are spineless no doubt.
However, the charge to invade Iraq was driven completely and wholely from the Defense Dept and the VPs office. It was their idea and their "grand vision". The Democrats didnt have the stones to confront them.
And the way the Bill was presented in Congress and the subsequent campaigning around the Iraq war bill was utterly shameful but I certainly dont put that past the Bush admin.
The bottom line is this. They wanted to invade IRaq. They shaped intel to fit the policy. The fucked up the handling of the war thanks to Rumsfeld. It is a massive catastrophe. Attemtping to project GWBs failures on the Dems is lame and revisionist.
Honestly - its a lost cause.
I didnt even mention the "Mohammed Atta met with a senior Iraqi Intelligence offiicial in Prague" BULLSHIT that Cheney spouted (used the term "pretty well confirmed") on MTP BEFORE the invasion in another subtle attempt to link the two.
He KNEW it was false. But I am sure you will deflect again so I will stop now.
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The U.S. government is full of idiots, thanks for the newsflash. Purple Hawk's next thread is "Ice is cold."
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
um....you're saying you're seeking "dialogue"....
ha ha ha....
ok, in the quote referenced, where did clinton say "that Saddam was responsible for 9/11"...?
come on, open the dialogue...please explain...
thats really all that needs to be said right there. but the libs that cry about bush lying are just playing to their base. and they eat it up, even though its a lie. and they actually think we're the ones being fooled.
i think your missing something here..
your president and his staff lied to the world..and keep lying...and keep lying..who cares what he supposedly represents...and if you look at history and party affiliations you will understand he doesnt represent republicans..he represents his fortune.
are you saying the administration and bush never lied about anything?
brain dead? got a fuckin bullet in your head...
Come on you know that the majority of American voters will continue to support their party and point blame on the oppossing party regardless of the fact that both parties are ass raping this country.
sad. present. truth.
Nice try.
But, last time I checked... a Senator from New York is not the one who commits our troops to war.
...
Also, a lot of people believed the Hussein/W.M.D./Al Qaeda thing because we were being told by our government about them. Since I do not have access to the data collected by surveillance satellites, Reconnaissance aircraft photos, on-ground intelligence reports or Iraqi dissident insider's claims... I have to believe them. But, just because we believed them, doesn't mean it's the truth, does it?
Hail, Hail!!!
Thanks for the ass raping visual.
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
Anytime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWhy-hhoBkA
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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