Libs lied, people died...

Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
edited April 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.glennbeck.com/news/01302004.shtml

My favorite is this:

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Mrs. Bill Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

Was Mrs. Bill Clinton saying that Saddam was responsible for 9/11? Sounds like it to me!
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    None of those people are liberals and your effort to split this iraq thing into a lib/con issue is quite sad. I'm sure many conservatives were smart enough to know that iraq was never a threat unlike those dems. so what's your point?
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    MrBrian wrote:
    None of those people are liberals and your effort to split this iraq thing into a lib/con issue is quite sad. I'm sure many conservatives were smart enough to know that iraq was never a threat unlike those dems. so what's your point?

    Ted Kennedy is not a lib? Mrs. Bill Clinton is not a lib? John Kerry is not a lib? Al Gore? Grandma Pelosi? Seriously, in your mind, who IS a liberal?

    my point is is that anyone saying that "bush lied" is lying. my point is is that liberal democrats are concerned about keeping power and following polls, not doing what is right....they were apparently on board in 2003, and are now capitalizing on the short attention span of lots of people.

    What's sad is the effort to split this iraq thing into a bush thing instead of a reality thing. that's the point.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Ted Kennedy is not a lib? Mrs. Bill Clinton is not a lib? John Kerry is not a lib?

    my point is is that anyone saying that "bush lied" is lying. my point is is that liberal democrats are concerned about keeping power and following polls, not doing what is right....they were apparently on board in 2003, and are now capitalizing on the short attention span of lots of people.

    What's sad is the effort to split this iraq thing into a bush thing instead of a reality thing. that's the point.

    maybe ted can pass as one. but clinton and kerry are deff not "liberals". the dems are very corrupt, infact I think they are almost as corrupt as the republicans.
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    MrBrian wrote:
    maybe ted can pass as one. but clinton and kerry are deff not "liberals". the dems are very corrupt, infact I think they are almost as corrupt as the republicans.

    let's not derail the thread my anti-capitalist friend....

    the point of this thread is that the "bush lied" bumper sticker slogan is poop.

    this whole backwards logic that lots of people think iraq was behind 9/11 so bush must have said it mentality...it never happened. and the thing is...liberal democrats made connections that bush did.

    i'm just engaging in a dialogue my friend :)
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    let's not derail the thread my anti-capitalist friend....

    the point of this thread is that the "bush lied" bumper sticker slogan is poop.

    this whole backwards logic that lots of people think iraq was behind 9/11 so bush must have said it mentality...it never happened. and the thing is...liberal democrats made connections that bush did.

    i'm just engaging in a dialogue my friend :)

    nah bro, I get it. I'm just saying that I agree, the dems are as backwards as the republicans. It's wrong to only blame bush and co when = blame should be put on the dems.
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    Bush is a big fat liar. Personally, I liked this sticker better anyway --->

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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Bush is a big fat liar. Personally, I liked this sticker better anyway --->

    Republican Party : Our bridge to the 11th century
    Hahaha ... I need one of those!
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  • Ted Kennedy is not a lib? Mrs. Bill Clinton is not a lib? John Kerry is not a lib? Al Gore? Grandma Pelosi? Seriously, in your mind, who IS a liberal?

    my point is is that anyone saying that "bush lied" is lying. my point is is that liberal democrats are concerned about keeping power and following polls, not doing what is right....they were apparently on board in 2003, and are now capitalizing on the short attention span of lots of people.

    What's sad is the effort to split this iraq thing into a bush thing instead of a reality thing. that's the point.


    Ted Kennedy voted against the Iraq INVASION.
    Al Gore was very outspoken against the INVASION since before Bush and Cheney dragged us into it.
    "Sean Hannity knows there is no greater threat to America today than Bill Clinton 15 years ago"- Stephen Colbert
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my point is is that anyone saying that "bush lied" is lying.

    “I would like to remind you that when the inspectors first went into Iraq and were denied, finally denied access, a report came out of the Atomic -the IAEA- that they were 6 months away from developing a weapon. I don’t know what more evidence we need.” -George W Bush

    “There’s never been a report like that from this agency.” - chief spokesman for the IAEA

    actual IAEA Report:
    “Based on all credible information to date the IAEA has found no indication of Iraq having achieved a nuclear weapons program or of Iraq having retained a physical capability for the production of weapon-useable nuclear material or having clandestinely obtained such material.”
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Operation Northwoods springs to mind...
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • http://www.glennbeck.com/news/01302004.shtml

    My favorite is this:

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    - Sen. Mrs. Bill Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

    Was Mrs. Bill Clinton saying that Saddam was responsible for 9/11? Sounds like it to me!

    Sounds nothing like it
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    Hillary is a part of the hypocrisy just as much as anybody else.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    http://www.glennbeck.com/news/01302004.shtml

    My favorite is this:

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    - Sen. Mrs. Bill Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

    Was Mrs. Bill Clinton saying that Saddam was responsible for 9/11? Sounds like it to me!


    I reckon times are a tough when glenn "hey everybody look at me say outraaaagous things for attention" beck is used as a point of reference....

    he he...
  • SpecificsSpecifics Posts: 417
    http://www.glennbeck.com/news/01302004.shtml

    My favorite is this:

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    - Sen. Mrs. Bill Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

    Was Mrs. Bill Clinton saying that Saddam was responsible for 9/11? Sounds like it to me!

    I think you forgot to paste the bit where she said anything about Saddam being responsible for 9/11? or anything even close.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    My dad has a saying "I'll lie, you swear to it."

    PH, stop being the Lucky Pierre for Rush and Beck.
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Specifics wrote:
    I think you forgot to paste the bit where she said anything about Saddam being responsible for 9/11? or anything even close.

    could you paste that same comment in every thread that says Bush made a link between Saddam and 9/11?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    inmytree wrote:
    I reckon times are a tough when glenn "hey everybody look at me say outraaaagous things for attention" beck is used as a point of reference....

    he he...

    i reckon times are tough when you ignore his references that he provides from apparently "legitimate" sourcs and instead make fun of the guy.

    more proof that dialogue is not the goal.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • The last 5 US Presisdent's in a row have lied their asses off and deceived the public.

    who are we kidding here?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • could you paste that same comment in every thread that says Bush made a link between Saddam and 9/11?


    they may not ever have said "saddam ordered 9/11" but they very subtly and cleveryly INFERRED he was behind the attacks.

    here is just a small sample of our criminal VP's comments:

    Question: "The Washington Post asked the American people about Saddam Hussein, and this is what they said: 69 percent said he was involved in the September 11 attacks. Are you surprised by that?"

    Cheney: No. I think it's not surprising that people make that connection." [NBC, Meet the Press, 11/14/03]

    Cheney: "If we’re successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it’s not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it’s not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11." [NBC, "Meet The Press," 9/14/03, emphasis added]
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    are you admitting that bush lied? cos if hillary did, then so did dubya.
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    they may not ever have said "saddam ordered 9/11" but they very subtly and cleveryly INFERRED he was behind the attacks.

    here is just a small sample of our criminal VP's comments:

    Question: "The Washington Post asked the American people about Saddam Hussein, and this is what they said: 69 percent said he was involved in the September 11 attacks. Are you surprised by that?"

    Cheney: No. I think it's not surprising that people make that connection." [NBC, Meet the Press, 11/14/03]

    Cheney: "If we’re successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it’s not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it’s not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11." [NBC, "Meet The Press," 9/14/03, emphasis added]

    uh...do you realize those quotes were months AFTER we enforced the UN resolutions? like 6 to 7 months after?

    also, do you realize that you are quoting poll results and a question to the VP about them. direction of causality...can you provide any evidence that any evil neo-cons put that idea out there to cause public opinion?

    normally, people draw conclusions about causality when someone does X, and y occurs. the left is seeing that Y happened, so X must have preceeded. and there's no evidence of it...but if it fits the template.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    also, do you realize that you are quoting poll results and a question to the VP about them. direction of causality...can you provide any evidence that any evil neo-cons put that idea out there to cause public opinion?

    normally, people draw conclusions about causality when someone does X, and y occurs. the left is seeing that Y happened, so X must have preceeded. and there's no evidence of it...but if it fits the template.

    Seems rather obvious he was quoting a poll and the VP's response because it says it was a poll and then had Cheney's response. As for causality, it is your opinion that the "left" saw Y happen therefore X must have preceeded it. That does not make it so. Templates -- hehehe. The Neonutjobs thrive on taling points and templates.
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  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0314/p02s01-woiq.html

    WASHINGTON - In his prime-time press conference last week, which focused almost solely on Iraq, President Bush mentioned Sept. 11 eight times. He referred to Saddam Hussein many more times than that, often in the same breath with Sept. 11.

    Bush never pinned blame for the attacks directly on the Iraqi president. Still, the overall effect was to reinforce an impression that persists among much of the American public: that the Iraqi dictator did play a direct role in the attacks. A New York Times/CBS poll this week shows that 45 percent of Americans believe Mr. Hussein was "personally involved" in Sept. 11, about the same figure as a month ago.

    Sources knowledgeable about US intelligence say there is no evidence that Hussein played a role in the Sept. 11 attacks, nor that he has been or is currently aiding Al Qaeda. Yet the White House appears to be encouraging this false impression, as it seeks to maintain American support for a possible war against Iraq and demonstrate seriousness of purpose to Hussein's regime.

    "The administration has succeeded in creating a sense that there is some connection [between Sept. 11 and Saddam Hussein]," says Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland.
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  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Seems rather obvious he was quoting a poll and the VP's response because it says it was a poll and then had Cheney's response. As for causality, it is your opinion that the "left" saw Y happen therefore X must have preceeded it. That does not make it so. Templates -- hehehe. The Neonutjobs thrive on taling points and templates.

    congrats, you just typed 57 words (58 if you consider Neonutjobs 2 words) and said absolutely nothing.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Bush never pinned blame for the attacks directly on the Iraqi president.

    and this is the main point, isn't it? thanks for making my case :)
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    congrats, you just typed 57 words (58 if you consider Neonutjobs 2 words) and said absolutely nothing.

    Thanks !! I'm sure everything is babble to you unless it confirms your beliefs.
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  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    and this is the main point, isn't it? thanks for making my case :)

    If you want to ignore the fact that their connection was inferred then that is your right but you are ignoring reality. Good luck in your box. Welcome back from your little vacation, btw.
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    Freedom is Slavery
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  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    Thanks !! I'm sure everything is babble to you unless it confirms your beliefs.

    in all seriousness...babble is a funny word :) babble...hehe
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    If you want to ignore the fact that their connection was inferred then that is your right but you are ignoring reality. Good luck in your box. Welcome back from your little vacation, btw.

    inferred? dude, tell me i have blinders on and am living in a box, all i'm asking is for you or anyone else is to provide any quote by Bush, or anyeone else in the admin. saying that Saddam was responsible for 9/11. It didn't happen. THAT'S REALITY. If there was inferred connections...the quotes I've provided by the dems are equally to blame.

    thanks for your welcoming comments though :)
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • I heard some stupid shit before but...why exactly are we fighting in Iraq again? What was Bush's response to 9/11? Bomb Iraq.

    wake the fuck up...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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