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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    unsung wrote:
    It is his name. If he doesn't like it he should change it... again. I'm smart enough to know it is a name, some people aren't. It isn't my job to educate them. But the fact remains he was not called anything other than what is his actual name. He was not slandered, he was not labeled anything, get over it.

    I think that's your problem, you dont see it as being anything more. If he was referring to Palin or Mcain by middle names, or if Obama's middle name is jo bob, then that's one thing. He is rewarding igorance and predujice and that's fucked up.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Not for nothing Obama supporters but it is his middle name. I don't see what the problem is. Would you guys be pissed if during a Obama rally someone called McCain by his full name, John Sidney McCain III.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    mammasan wrote:
    Not for nothing Obama supporters but it is his middle name. I don't see what the problem is. Would you guys be pissed if during a Obama rally someone called McCain by his full name, John Sidney McCain III.

    I think that you see the difference... This really doesn't bother me all that much, but what is sort of annoying is that the ONLY reason these people are using his middle name is for the negative impact that it has on some people. The reason why it doesn't really bother me though, is that the people who will take his middle name negatively wouldn't have voted for Obama in the first place.

    It does however help to keep the Muslim thing going... I am still surprised when I still hear people saying that they won't vote for a Muslim, so they are voting for McCain.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    blackredyellow wrote:
    I think that you see the difference... This really doesn't bother me all that much, but what is sort of annoying is that the ONLY reason these people are using his middle name is for the negative impact that it has on some people. The reason why it doesn't really bother me though, is that the people who will take his middle name negatively wouldn't have voted for Obama in the first place.

    It does however help to keep the Muslim thing going... I am still surprised when I still hear people saying that they won't vote for a Muslim, so they are voting for McCain.

    I see your point that the name was used to insight a negative perception of Obama. With that being said you where right when you stated that anyone who believes this to be true would have never voted for Obama in the first place. Most undecided voters, at this point in the race, will be swayed by the issues not by cheap shots taken by either party.
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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    they should just leave this alone....

    I don't agree with this so-called sheriff using taxpayer money to politic while in uniform nonetheless...

    To call more attention to it just makes matters worse...
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    they should just leave this alone....

    I don't agree with this so-called sheriff using taxpayer money to politic while in uniform nonetheless...

    To call more attention to it just makes matters worse...

    I agree....if this schmuck spoke at the rally in his street clothes...I do have a problem with him speaking with is uniform on....
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    blackredyellow wrote:
    I think that you see the difference... This really doesn't bother me all that much, but what is sort of annoying is that the ONLY reason these people are using his middle name is for the negative impact that it has on some people. The reason why it doesn't really bother me though, is that the people who will take his middle name negatively wouldn't have voted for Obama in the first place.

    It does however help to keep the Muslim thing going... I am still surprised when I still hear people saying that they won't vote for a Muslim, so they are voting for McCain.

    yeah ... if anything - you want a leader who is proud of his middle name ...

    i agree with those that think this shouldn't be a problem as it IS his name ... what you should be pissed at is the fact you live with people who actually think that's a bad name to have ... those are the people u should be pissed at ... in which case - this copper just might be one of them ...
  • QuestionAuthority
    QuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    imalive wrote:
    The sheriff is a POS fearmonger :mad:. The snappy little salute to the crowd was another, not so subtle "reminder" of who are the "patriots" and who are the "terrorists." :mad: Then again, it's just what "Joe Six Pack" wants to see and hear!


    I totally agree with you here.. I am sick and tired of this bullshit.. these people should be morally ashamed at what they have been doing at these rallies the last week.. it has gotten uglier than I even imagined and I had thought it would be bad.. never dreamed of this shit!
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  • Yellow Ledbelly
    Yellow Ledbelly Posts: 3,749
    This has got to be the dumbest, stupidest, most idiotic shit I have ever heard....and that is saying a lot. He is a racist fear-monger for using a man's middle name? Truth is the only defense the guy needs and it is indeed a FACT that Mr. Obama's middle name is Hussein.
    Anybody disturbed by the use of said middle name is just as foolish as anyone who would hear that name and immediatley jump to the conclusion that Obama is bad just because of his middle name and the fact that it happens to be a Muslim name.
    Totally absurd.
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  • Red Burrito
    Red Burrito Posts: 484
    puremagic wrote:
    The problem is not that he used Obama's middle name. The problem is this officer used his official position to insight hate.

    The problem is that he violated the Hatch Act which prevents federal, state and county workers from participating in partisian political events while on duty. This officer was in full uniform that represented an official reflection of the State of Florida.

    Under the Hatch Act he should fired.


    Exactly. Obviously the sheriff is a dumb-ass but what is more important here is that he openly broke the law as stated under the Hatch Act...

    Covered state and local employees may not-

    -be candidates for public office in a partisan election
    -use official authority or influence to interfere with or affect the results of an election or nomination
    -directly or indirectly coerce contributions from subordinates in support of a political party or candidate
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  • azwyldcats
    azwyldcats Posts: 711
    robbie wrote:
    don't be stupid. he used the name to fire up the backwards redneck bigoted hicks who like to yell "terrorist" and "kill him" at rallies. that is a fact. also a fact is that for a sheriff entrusted with public safety and representing his department, county, state, and county.... inciting hatred and racism, and fear is repulsive. now lee county may be happy to live back in 1950 where they could go out lynching and burning crosses when anyone "different" came into their neighbourhood, but it is so goddamn arrogant to do so while wearing the uniform. he might as well have broadcast that no people of color, homosexuals, the disabled, men with long hair, non Christians, and anyone else who does not fit into their little lee county Klan should be fearful when entering his county. if the sheriff is a racist fear mongering pig, who will protect those who need protection. when I feel unsafe to freely travel around the country i live in because hatred and bigotry is the policy of certain counties, I consider that a civil rights issue. fuck this filthy pig.
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  • yoke
    yoke Posts: 1,440
    I don't see a problem with it, it is his middle name and crying about it won't change that fact. People are free to use his full name anytime they want.
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  • QuestionAuthority
    QuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    Yellow Ledbelly wrote:
    This has got to be the dumbest, stupidest, most idiotic shit I have ever heard....and that is saying a lot. He is a racist fear-monger for using a man's middle name? Truth is the only defense the guy needs and it is indeed a FACT that Mr. Obama's middle name is Hussein.
    Anybody disturbed by the use of said middle name is just as foolish as anyone who would hear that name and immediatley jump to the conclusion that Obama is bad just because of his middle name and the fact that it happens to be a Muslim name.
    Totally absurd.


    Did you see the video? He says his full name.. stops.. the crowd goes wild and he starts shaking his head in agreement.. he knew EXACTLY what he was doing.. he knew exactly the reaction he was going to get and wanted to get.
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  • Skitch Patterson
    Skitch Patterson Posts: 642
    This thread may be among the most hilarious things i have ever read on this board.


    You realize you guys are getting angry and calling people stupid, rednecks, fearmongerers, etc because he USED HIS MIDDLE NAME for emphasis?

    My personal favorite post is the one that mentions this is sanctioned by the Republican party... even though every piece of actual factual evidence in this "debate" is the republican party strongly coming out against it.
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    the bottom line is these people are using Hussein to generate hatred.

    Don't be a fuckin dipshit asshat... Nobody is arguing they can't say his full name... It's the context it's being used...

    You're just playing along with the hate game if you don't understand this.
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  • Yellow Ledbelly
    Yellow Ledbelly Posts: 3,749
    QuestionAuthority wrote:
    Did you see the video? He says his full name.. stops.. the crowd goes wild and he starts shaking his head in agreement.. he knew EXACTLY what he was doing.. he knew exactly the reaction he was going to get and wanted to get.
    Ok....and that is fear-mongering and inciting hate in what way?
    I would imagine Mr. Obama could say George Walker Bush at a democratic rally and get much the same reaction...to which the good senator would probably also nod his head in agreement.

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  • QuestionAuthority
    QuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    the bottom line is these people are using Hussein to generate hatred.

    Don't be a fuckin dipshit asshat... Nobody is arguing they can't say his full name... It's the context it's being used...

    You're just playing along with the hate game if you don't understand this.


    Spot on.
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  • QuestionAuthority
    QuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    Yellow Ledbelly wrote:
    Ok....and that is fear-mongering and inciting hate in what way?
    I would imagine Mr. Obama could say George Walker Bush at a democratic rally and get much the same reaction...to which the good senator would probably also nod his head in agreement.

    FOOLISHNESS

    WHATEVER. I am sorry that you cannot see the blantant hostility and fear mongering.. sorry, even people who are not ubber-politically oriented that I have shown this piece of footage to also see EXACTLY what this man intended to do by saying HUSSEIN. If you do not see it perhaps you need to open your eyes and YOUR MIND.
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  • stupidcorporatewhore
    stupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    unsung wrote:
    It is his name. If he doesn't like it he should change it... again. I'm smart enough to know it is a name, some people aren't. It isn't my job to educate them. But the fact remains he was not called anything other than what is his actual name. He was not slandered, he was not labeled anything, get over it.

    Wow, is there any right wing crap you won't defend?

    a new low. I'm beginning to wonder if there is a bottom for you.

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