Well considering a few of the people on this board, myself being one of them actually realise that war just adds hate to the fire not put it out. I will say that war is out of the question. I will regress in time to when I was younger and give you a line that may work. Not using anything that has happened in the last 15 years for starting a war as nothing big has really happened in that time. Wipe out the whole bloody race! You read that correct. Go in and blow the fucking shit out of the people you don't like and then you don't have to listen to them gripe and bitch and complain about all the wrong doing. We see how well that worked in the past and how it comes back to bite you in the ass. So all my ideas are spent. Guess we will have to learn and listen and talk. Oh and don't exploit people. The stupid are getting smarter!
Talking would be great ... Assuming these people are interested in any sort of dialogue with non-Muslims. I remain to be convinced. I know its possible, because most Muslims that live in North America demonsrate tolerance of other views. Like Mr.Brian said, poverty is a big factor. Of course, its these people's leaders that keep them mired in said poverty, at least in part.
Sure, we have our nuts too, but thousands of people don't take to the streets in countries all over the world when Pat Robertson spouts off. Most Christians roll their eyes, look embarrassed, and tell everyone how Pat Robertson doesn't represent them or Christians as a group. And even the ones who agree with him weren't out in the street shouting "Death to Chavez!"
My feelings on religion are well-known here. I think it's all nonsense. But I have to say, Christianity seems to currently be a much less noxious brand of nonsense than Islam.
And people didn't "take to the streets" in this relevant case. It was a report from some Muslim guy in Somalia saying the pope is stupid and must die. The streets thing, is for the most part about demanding an apology and correction from the pope himself.
The reaction may be overblown (it certainly is) but is probably being whipped up by the media and it's slant down there, governments down there going for anything that may relieve some pressure off themselves (they also often control the press) and the odd statement from some self-titled jihadist leader. A bit like the cartoons farce last year.
As for which brand is worse, I go with what a colleague of mine says. Christianity has been taught to heel and butt out, are over-run by secularism and kept on a tight leash. Which is why it behaves.
There are a lot of other differences between people "here" and people "there", but most of them has little or nothing to do with religion and a lot more to do with politics, power and resources. Although zealots on both sides try to make it look like it's all about religion and a "clash of civilizations".
Peace
Dan
"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
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Talking would be great ... Assuming these people are interested in any sort of dialogue with non-Muslims. I remain to be convinced. I know its possible, because most Muslims that live in North America demonsrate tolerance of other views. Like Mr.Brian said, poverty is a big factor. Of course, its these people's leaders that keep them mired in said poverty, at least in part.
And people didn't "take to the streets" in this relevant case. It was a report from some Muslim guy in Somalia saying the pope is stupid and must die. The streets thing, is for the most part about demanding an apology and correction from the pope himself.
The reaction may be overblown (it certainly is) but is probably being whipped up by the media and it's slant down there, governments down there going for anything that may relieve some pressure off themselves (they also often control the press) and the odd statement from some self-titled jihadist leader. A bit like the cartoons farce last year.
As for which brand is worse, I go with what a colleague of mine says. Christianity has been taught to heel and butt out, are over-run by secularism and kept on a tight leash. Which is why it behaves.
There are a lot of other differences between people "here" and people "there", but most of them has little or nothing to do with religion and a lot more to do with politics, power and resources. Although zealots on both sides try to make it look like it's all about religion and a "clash of civilizations".
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965