An Example Of Muslim Leadership

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  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    eden wrote:
    I dont think- I KNOW that with us it all depends on whether we have a Republican or a Democrat in the WhiteHouse, Americans tend to be wishy -washy in their mind set and change it often depending on what is going on and who is our President. We definately are not raised with an extremist view on killing and we definately have always struck back in defense but only when we were attacked first. Clinton was "Diplomatic" as hell for 8 years while everything was brewing and being arranged for 9-11, he chose diplomacy and over action and look where that got us.

    Bush and Cheney haver both said another terrorist attack will happen...and im sure it will...so where has all this war and blood shed got us besides being more at risk?
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    How so?

    Well, the greatest example is our bombing of Iraq.. and our leaderships condescending and false explanations and failure to acknowledge or appologize for all the harm it has done - both to the innocent people and in the rhetoric our leadership spews about terrorism and insurgency and how they should be happy and greatful for repeated bombing campagnes.

    for example
  • Abuskedti wrote:
    Well, the greatest example is our bombing of Iraq.. and our leaderships condescending and false explanations and failure to acknowledge or appologize for all the harm it has done - both to the innocent people and in the rhetoric our leadership spews about terrorism and insurgency and how they should be happy and greatful for repeated bombing campagnes.

    for example

    Iraq is not a religious war. Bad example.
  • Open wrote:
    People are people and will react essentially the same when put in the same enviroments. To blame a particular religion is pure BS

    Situation: An offensive cartoon is published in a newspaper

    Western reaction: Ahh sort of funny, sort of inappropriate- life goes on.

    Muslim reaction: FUCK YOU. DIE. LET'S RIOT. KILL MY NEIGHBOR. EVIL WEST.
    The less you know, the more you believe.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    eden wrote:
    Its interesting when you research Muslim roots that they are the descendants of Ishmael (Abrahams illigitemate son by his wife Sarah's concubine) anyway, Ishmael left Abrahams family in disgrace and then went on to become the Patriarch of such violent clans as the Assyrians - who were referred to as "Hunters of Men" and would mount the heads of the men they killed on their spears as trophies.


    This is true. At least according to the books, it's true.


    eden wrote:
    I believe that certain traits run in certain races, and the Muslim people have been taught to use violence from the beginning.

    I also agree with this. But realistically speaking, it is a symptom of the human race as a species.
    eden wrote:
    their are also many gentle, beautiful, peace loving Muslims who stick more closely to the teachings of Muhamed.

    Absolutely. I personally have known and currently know some. My kids play with their kids, and we do spend time together.

    Unfortunately, there too many who think and act to illustrate the worst of our species.
  • Jammin909 wrote:
    Situation: An offensive cartoon is published in a newspaper

    Western reaction: Ahh sort of funny, sort of inappropriate- life goes on.

    Muslim reaction: FUCK YOU. DIE. LET'S RIOT. KILL MY NEIGHBOR. EVIL WEST.

    It is sad that you have to make a statement as basic as this to prove a point. It is even more sad that people will read this and still call Islam a peaceful religion.
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    Jammin909 wrote:
    Situation: An offensive cartoon is published in a newspaper

    Western reaction: Ahh sort of funny, sort of inappropriate- life goes on.

    Muslim reaction: FUCK YOU. DIE. LET'S RIOT. KILL MY NEIGHBOR. EVIL WEST.


    Go to a small town in rural USA draw an offensive cartoon of Jesus, then go stay in a motel in the same town....see if you get out unscathed.
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    It is sad that you have to make a statement as basic as this to prove a point. It is even more sad that people will read this and still call Islam a peaceful religion.

    What a statement from a peaceful, loving christian.
  • Open wrote:
    What a statement from a peaceful, loving christian.

    What is that supposed to mean? I'm not allowed to say that the Islamic religion is a violent religion? That makes me a bad person?

    You are grasping at straws here. I'd give up your argument.
  • Open wrote:
    Go to a small town in rural USA draw an offensive cartoon of Jesus, then go stay in a motel in the same town....see if you get out unscathed.

    And if upon the small, small chance anything happened, 99.9% of the Christian community would come out against it. You wouldn't get the silence you get now from the Muslim community.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Iraq is not a religious war. Bad example.

    actually it is.. very much a religious war.
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    What is that supposed to mean? I'm not allowed to say that the Islamic religion is a violent religion? That makes me a bad person?

    You are grasping at straws here. I'd give up your argument.

    Hippocrit..you display the same ignorance that the people you are bashing are. Wh

    Where is your reply to this>....or have you given up?

    Why dude (edit: dudette) ..the best place to compare it is in the states where the socioeconomical factors are essentially the same. Here in the states where we are able to police most of it you still see extremist violence. People are people and will react essentially the same when put in the same enviroments. To blame a particular religion is pure BS, religion is just the tool used to control the people..whether over there to recruit suicide bombers or here by using "moral values" and homosexuality to get the evangilicals to show up at the polls. The more you generalize the more you prove my point.
  • Iraq is not a religious war. Bad example.

    It is showing how a christian nation deals with politicial problems. The violence isn't just a trait of Arab nations. We are a nation full of distractions. We have a huge military that does the dirty work for us and we know it. Everytime one of these countries steps out of line all you hear is support from people to bomb the hell out of em. People here know they don't have to left a finger. Bombs will quiet their irrational fears much like a pacifer. Every one of you that supports the bombing campaigns in the middle east are living proof of this.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Open wrote:
    Hippocrit..you display the same ignorance that the people you are bashing are. Wh

    Where is your reply to this>....or have you given up?

    Why dude (edit: dudette) ..the best place to compare it is in the states where the socioeconomical factors are essentially the same. Here in the states where we are able to police most of it you still see extremist violence. People are people and will react essentially the same when put in the same enviroments. To blame a particular religion is pure BS, religion is just the tool used to control the people..whether over there to recruit suicide bombers or here by using "moral values" and homosexuality to get the evangilicals to show up at the polls. The more you generalize the more you prove my point.

    Muslims are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race.
    The less you know, the more you believe.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Jammin909 wrote:
    Muslims are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race.

    he he.. see..it is clearly a religious war. People think things like this :)
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Muhammed's mother was a hamster and his father smelt of elderberries.







    I'm of course referring to my neighbor's pet hamster.
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    Jammin909 wrote:
    Muslims are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race.


    lol...thanks for proving my point.
  • KatKat Posts: 4,871
    Thread became bigoted. If it happens again, accounts will be lost. This will be the only warning.

    It is important to not brand an entire group of people by the actions of some.

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