Israel Admits Phosphorous Bombs Used in Lebanon

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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Who said on here that Israel doesn't use cluster bombs? Or phosphorous bombs, for that matter? I missed that.


    lots of ppl...let's see, there was the thread i started about cluster bombs used in lebanon and ppl said it was bs and obviously biased...the article about white phosporous used in gaza <pssst in fact one of the replies was "Another blood libel against the Jews. Nice try. Gee, I wonder if this will turn out like those idiotic claims of the "chemical weapons" the Arabs said Isael used in Lebanon">
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Ebizzie
    Ebizzie Posts: 240
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    There were a couple characters that were cheerleading the Isreali's in their "war" with Lebanon......but I will not mention names.....

    And if you're a strong supporter of Israel who is sick of the suicide bombings, why wouldn't you cheer for Israel in the military campaign? Did these same individuals know at the time that the Israelis were droppoing phoshorous clusters?
    "Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    El_Kabong wrote:
    lots of ppl...let's see, there was the thread i started about cluster bombs used in lebanon and ppl said it was bs and obviously biased...the article about white phosporous used in gaza <pssst in fact one of the replies was "Another blood libel against the Jews. Nice try. Gee, I wonder if this will turn out like those idiotic claims of the "chemical weapons" the Arabs said Isael used in Lebanon">

    Well, claims regarding "chemical weapons" are indeed unsubstantiated. Phosphorous bombs are not WMD-style poison gas weapons. They are more along the lines of napalm, grotesque, but not in the same category. I think people get a bit tired of the language spin.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Ebizzie wrote:
    And if you're a strong supporter of Israel who is sick of the suicide bombings, why wouldn't you cheer for Israel in the military campaign? Did these same individuals know at the time that the Israelis were droppoing phoshorous clusters?

    Well then I guess you believe that civilian collateral is also acceptable to meet your desire as well.....and for that matter I believe these indivduals would not care what was used.....thats the understanding I received.....
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    El_Kabong wrote:
    thanks eva...can't wait to hear the minions rationalize and excuse it...or they'll just ignore it all together

    Or they'll encourage it!
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    Eva7 wrote:
    The Israeli government has admitted for the first time that it used controversial phosphorous bombs during its 34-day war campaign in Lebanon. Cabinet Minister Jacob Edery confirmed that the army had used the bombs to attack "military targets" during its war with Hizbollah in July and August. Previously, Israel had said the bombs had only been used to mark out targets. During the conflict, doctors in Lebanon reported treating civilians who appeared to have been hit by the shells, which leave their victims with severe chemical wounds that can be fatal.
    full article: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1023-02.htm

    Hezbollah brainwashes youths into strapping themselves with explosives and strapnel soaked in poison. They direct them to 100% civillian targets and have them end their life and the lives of as many inocent women and children as they can possibly kill. Oh, I'm sorry... did you have a point?
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    There were a couple characters that were cheerleading the Isreali's in their "war" with Lebanon......but I will not mention names.....

    You totally changed what he asked you....
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • meconium
    meconium Posts: 40
    TheVoiceInside wrote:
    Its not? then whats with the flag.


    who can move to israel and "take" land??

    let me answer that ....jews



    and another question... who wiped "palestine" off the map??
  • meconium
    meconium Posts: 40
    NCfan wrote:
    Hezbollah brainwashes youths into strapping themselves with explosives and strapnel soaked in poison. They direct them to 100% civillian targets and have them end their life and the lives of as many inocent women and children as they can possibly kill. Oh, I'm sorry... did you have a point?


    look up "zealots"


    the zionist invented terrorism

    look that up
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    meconium wrote:
    look up "zealots"


    the zionist invented terrorism

    look that up

    And the Chinese invented gunpower ... The point?
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    NCfan wrote:
    Hezbollah brainwashes youths into strapping themselves with explosives and strapnel soaked in poison. They direct them to 100% civillian targets and have them end their life and the lives of as many inocent women and children as they can possibly kill. Oh, I'm sorry... did you have a point?

    yes, a key point was:
    "treating civilians who appeared to have been hit by the shells, which leave their victims with severe chemical wounds that can be fatal. "
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Ebizzie
    Ebizzie Posts: 240
    El_Kabong wrote:
    yes, a key point was:
    "treating civilians who appeared to have been hit by the shells, which leave their victims with severe chemical wounds that can be fatal. "


    his post mentioned innocents, aka "civilians", being killed by palestinians as well. not that I agree with either sides' tactics, but they've both committed atrocities against innocents and civilians.
    "Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln
  • Ebizzie
    Ebizzie Posts: 240
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    Well then I guess you believe that civilian collateral is also acceptable to meet your desire as well.....and for that matter I believe these indivduals would not care what was used.....thats the understanding I received.....

    it's not my desire. you criticized folks for "cheering" for the israelis. I was just pointing out that that is their right if they have strong feelings for the Israeli cause.
    "Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    I guess no body listened when us "anti-semites" were saying Israel was using cluster bombs, white phosphorous and DU weapons in Lebanon. We were just called anti-semitic and fearmongers. But we already had the proof, the rest of you just ignored it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Ebizzie wrote:
    his post mentioned innocents, aka "civilians", being killed by palestinians as well. not that I agree with either sides' tactics, but they've both committed atrocities against innocents and civilians.

    the means and impacts are not proportional ... the suffering is definitely skewed for the people with the weapons ...
  • Ebizzie
    Ebizzie Posts: 240
    polaris wrote:
    the means and impacts are not proportional ... the suffering is definitely skewed for the people with the weapons ...

    Suffering can't be quantified. If you're talking about deaths, compare suicide bomb deaths to civilians killed by Israeli bombs in the past 10 years or so. I have no idea what the numbers are, but I do know that I've heard many more stories involving suicides than I have bombings.
    "Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Ebizzie wrote:
    it's not my desire. you criticized folks for "cheering" for the israelis. I was just pointing out that that is their right if they have strong feelings for the Israeli cause.

    I said those were the people labelling myself and others that believed the early stories of using these weapons as untrue and therefore we were somewhat anti-Semite.....as for rights it is also my right to be against something that causes more civilian death than a "terrorists" death....everyday news was the brutality of an Israeli citizen getting killed from a missle attack yet how many Lebonese died????

    The real civilian tragedy happened in Lebanon and it was not portrayed that way.....Israel plays the anti-Semite card anytime someone fails to agree with them....its getting really old and tiresome already.....if you wanna 100% support Israel fine by me but don't go stepping on me saying I am an anti-Semite because I disagree with their agenda in the reigon (and no I was not making this comment towards yourself)......
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Ebizzie wrote:
    Suffering can't be quantified. If you're talking about deaths, compare suicide bomb deaths to civilians killed by Israeli bombs in the past 10 years or so. I have no idea what the numbers are, but I do know that I've heard many more stories involving suicides than I have bombings.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict

    not even close in this particular case ...

    if you are talking about the palestinian case - if we factor in sanctions and controls put forth by israelis - the disproportion of deaths will also skew higher towards the palestinian side ...
  • Ebizzie
    Ebizzie Posts: 240
    polaris wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict

    not even close in this particular case ...

    if you are talking about the palestinian case - if we factor in sanctions and controls put forth by israelis - the disproportion of deaths will also skew higher towards the palestinian side ...

    Do the Isrealis get bonus points for showing offensive restraint for so long? No shit they whooped the living hell out of them when they attacked....no doubt.

    I like the way you twist my question about deaths into another impossibly quantifieable statistic in counting deaths caused by "sanctions and controls". Nice job of avoiding the actual facts.
    "Worse than traitors in arms are the men who pretend loyalty to the flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation while patriotic blood is crimsoning the plains." -- Abraham Lincoln
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Ebizzie wrote:
    Do the Isrealis get bonus points for showing offensive restraint for so long? No shit they whooped the living hell out of them when they attacked....no doubt.

    I like the way you twist my question about deaths into another impossibly quantifieable statistic in counting deaths caused by "sanctions and controls". Nice job of avoiding the actual facts.

    its not about avoiding the facts but if you don't understand that it is the suffering caused by "sanctions and controls" that "makes" people strap bombs to themselves ...

    restraint?? ... do the palestinians get bonus points for being treated like farm animals all these years??

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