Posters 06 World Tour

Qball

bostonlou wrote:

AUSSIE POSTER INFO - From the distributor

Pearl Jam Posters Australian Tour
Some info:
Posters are not signed or numbered.
They're printed offset on 100+ lb heavy art stock.
A series of 12 different posters were made using four different artists each making 3 designs.

Approx 1000 posters were made of each design.
Between 350 to 500 of each poster to be merched (depending on venue size)
at respective gigs in OZ, which btway are selling out each nite.
350 of each sent back to the US fanclub for sale later.
100 of each go to the band, not for sale.
150 stay in OZ for sale thru Beyond The Pale Posters.
Regards
John Harris
Beyond The Pale Posters

OK to me these posters are crap. Offset posters are worthless and are no different than the posters Britney Spears sells at her concerts. Pearl Jam posters are dead if they want to continue to use this method. You can get a poster from each show and go to kinko's and make 10000 copies. No one could tell the difference. I will admit that this does make it much more accessable for people to get posters and eliminates most of ebay. The only problem is it eliminates the whole collecting aspect for me and most collectors. Silk screen is the way to go. If you have ever seen the silk screen process you would understand why the posters are more valuable. It's like comparing items that are homemade and items that are mass produced. My mom's apple pie, which takes her 30 minutes to prepare is much better than that prepackaged crap in your grocer's freezer.

Bathgate66

Qball wrote:

OK to me these posters are crap. Offset posters are worthless and are no different than the posters Britney Spears sells at her concerts. Pearl Jam posters are dead if they want to continue to use this method. You can get a poster from each show and go to kinko's and make 10000 copies. No one could tell the difference. I will admit that this does make it much more accessable for people to get posters and eliminates most of ebay. The only problem is it eliminates the whole collecting aspect for me and most collectors. Silk screen is the way to go. If you have ever seen the silk screen process you would understand why the posters are more valuable. It's like comparing items that are homemade and items that are mass produced. My mom's apple pie, which takes her 30 minutes to prepare is much better than that prepackaged crap in your grocer's freezer.

I agree with all of this ( okay maybe i wouldnt call them crap ) . I couldnt believe when i heard they were like lithographs.
I like the Silkscreening process also . Visually , as well as the use of colors is so much more vibrant , eye-catching and colorful , IMO . Then there is the collectablity factors involved .

Qball

Bathgate66 wrote:

I agree with all of this ( okay maybe i wouldnt call them crap ) . I couldnt believe when i heard they were like lithographs.
I like the Silkscreening process also . Visually , as well as the use of colors is so much more vibrant , eye-catching and colorful , IMO . Then there is the collectablity factors involved .

Yeah my bad for not clearing that up. My statement on calling them crap was definitely towards the printing process not the design. These artists work hard for these posters to look good and I definitely dig the designs just not the printing process.

schmoff

I'm an art director and have done all these printing processes through the years, lithographs are not CRAP at all, they take probably more time than a silkscreen to make, each plate (color) still has to be hand drawn. The actual printing is done on a press, but there are usually lots more color in a litho, silkscreens are minimal in color, look at most ames and klausens, threes colors or less most of them. It is just a different technique. And you could not take it to kinkos and have it reproduced well, it would then look like CRAP. To reproduce these prints yourself on the same stock would cost as much as buying one. They are still limited so they are still collectible, these are about the same #of prints as all the other posters if not less, I know in '00 Ames were making 1200-2000 prints for the popular shows. I think it's great these new artists are getting a shot at doing these and the prints look better than anything PJ has done in years IMHO.

bostonlou

britney looks hot again


just sayin

bicyclejoe

Qball wrote:

OK to me these posters are crap. Offset posters are worthless and are no different than the posters Britney Spears sells at her concerts. Pearl Jam posters are dead if they want to continue to use this method. You can get a poster from each show and go to kinko's and make 10000 copies. No one could tell the difference. I will admit that this does make it much more accessable for people to get posters and eliminates most of ebay. The only problem is it eliminates the whole collecting aspect for me and most collectors. Silk screen is the way to go. If you have ever seen the silk screen process you would understand why the posters are more valuable. It's like comparing items that are homemade and items that are mass produced. My mom's apple pie, which takes her 30 minutes to prepare is much better than that prepackaged crap in your grocer's freezer.

Actually, unless Kinkos allows you to print on heavy duty 100+ pound paper using the advanced micro-ink tech used on these, don't think you would get anywhere near the same quality.
Clever comment, but not entirely educated.
I think you will be amazed at the quality of these posters. You could not have silkscreened that image as well.
Silkscreens are hardly more vibrant than a quality litho. And let's face it, the art in these is far more advanced than anything from Ames and Klausen this year.

bostonlou

so... how good would a color copy be of a silkscreen?

Qball

bicyclejoe wrote:

Actually, unless Kinkos allows you to print on heavy duty 100+ pound paper using the advanced micro-ink tech used on these, don't think you would get anywhere near the same quality.
Clever comment, but not entirely educated.
I think you will be amazed at the quality of these posters. You could not have silkscreened that image as well.
Silkscreens are hardly more vibrant than a quality litho. And let's face it, the art in these is far more advanced than anything from Ames and Klausen this year.

Wrong..IMO the toronto Klausen is the best design of the year. Also as for your "You could not have silkscreened that image as well" you are 100% wrong I mean come on Joe I know your a smart poster collector and you've heard of a god named Emek
Ween
http://www.emek.net/posters/w/ween2.html 12 colors and amazing in person
Ben Harper
http://www.emek.net/posters/b/ben_harper.html 7 colors
Nick Cave
http://www.emek.net/posters/n/nick_cave.html
If your into posters just navigate his site and you will see why he is the greatest ever!

Bathgate66

I was contemplating buying up some u2 lithograpphs, but all the good ones are sold out . :(

http://www.fanfire.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/fanfire.woa/wo/0.7.13.0.1.3.1

bostonlou

Bathgate66 wrote:

I was contemplating buying up some u2 lithograpphs, but all the good ones are sold out . :(

http://www.fanfire.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/fanfire.woa/wo/0.7.13.0.1.3.1

maybe we could all learn from this one

http://www.fanfire.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/fanfire.woa/wa/product?sku=KISCD037

Bathgate66

bostonlou wrote:

maybe we could all learn from this one

http://www.fanfire.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/fanfire.woa/wa/product?sku=KISCD037

haha

looks like a ramones spread all done in iron maiden eddy form,... lol

bostonlou

Bathgate66 wrote:

haha

looks like a ramones spread all done in iron maiden eddy form,... lol

i meant that it was called "we're a happy family" and featured both U2 and Ed

Qball

Bathgate66 wrote:

I was contemplating buying up some u2 lithograpphs, but all the good ones are sold out . :(

http://www.fanfire.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/fanfire.woa/wo/0.7.13.0.1.3.1

People in glass houses.......Bathgate you can't possibly trash U2 when Bruce Springsteen charges so much damn money for his shows and memerobilia. U2 uses lasers/videos/lights galore and charges 49 for GA seats or high balcony and up to 150 for club seats while Springsteen used no visual effects in his devils and dust tour, charged $90/ticket (front row or back) and was selling sweatshirts for $80. This arguement will never end and the funny thing is...Pearl Jam/Springsteen/U2 are 3 of my favorites. I pay because I want to see them. The price to see these artists are rediculous but you pay. No one should be judged on ticket or t-shirt prices. Yeah bitch, moan and complain about them but in the end no one really cares becasue if you dont want to spend $180 on a pair of balcony tickets to U2 or Springsteen someone will. Include me in this category!

Bathgate66

Qball wrote:

People in glass houses.......Bathgate you can't possibly trash U2 when Bruce Springsteen charges so much damn money for his shows and memerobilia. U2 uses lasers/videos/lights galore and charges 49 for GA seats or high balcony and up to 150 for club seats while Springsteen used no visual effects in his devils and dust tour, charged $90/ticket (front row or back) and was selling sweatshirts for $80. This arguement will never end and the funny thing is...Pearl Jam/Springsteen/U2 are 3 of my favorites. I pay because I want to see them. The price to see these artists are rediculous but you pay. No one should be judged on ticket or t-shirt prices. Yeah bitch, moan and complain about them but in the end no one really cares becasue if you dont want to spend $180 on a pair of balcony tickets to U2 or Springsteen someone will. Include me in this category!

:mad: i don't throw rocks , pal , :mad:


where the fuck did i trash U2 ,... or Springsteen ( would / could never ) ?



I love them both, and , since we mentioned it , have spent literally thousands to see them both, regardless of how m,uch it may have cost me ,....above face value even . Along with PJ ' s fanclub, i am a member / subscriber to both U2s and Springsteens.

The above lithographs I spoke of ( from U2.com ) , I have purchased more then 1 , was looking into maybe buying more- ( hoping there may have been a dual U2 / PJ combo for the upcoming Hawaii gigs-- to no avail )


U2s use of the lights and lasers is a given ( they even used a Giant Lemon they all got stuck in for gods sake ). Conversely, Bruce doesnt need such antics, with or without the E Street Band or SSB behind him . Bruce utilizing a piano, a pump organ, various guitars and harmonicas are all he needs to be instantly " at home " onstage.. He is The Boss.



Oh & by the way i dont live in a glass house ,
i live in glass palace on the shoreline .

bostonlou

Qball wrote:

People in glass houses.......Bathgate you can't possibly trash U2 when Bruce Springsteen charges so much damn money for his shows and memerobilia. U2 uses lasers/videos/lights galore and charges 49 for GA seats or high balcony and up to 150 for club seats while Springsteen used no visual effects in his devils and dust tour, charged $90/ticket (front row or back) and was selling sweatshirts for $80. This arguement will never end and the funny thing is...Pearl Jam/Springsteen/U2 are 3 of my favorites. I pay because I want to see them. The price to see these artists are rediculous but you pay. No one should be judged on ticket or t-shirt prices. Yeah bitch, moan and complain about them but in the end no one really cares becasue if you dont want to spend $180 on a pair of balcony tickets to U2 or Springsteen someone will. Include me in this category!

dude... i love how you twist the truth about U2's ticket prices

most of the balcony is $95... except way up on the other end... and maybe rear stage

and the $165 (not $150) "club" seat is the whole lower bowl... only a portion of those are "club seats" although i guess that's up for the person's interpretation of club


like you said... people will spend this money so it doesn't matter

my personal view is that I'd rather go see Pearl Jam 3 times with the highest priced ticket than 1 time sitting in a $165 seat for U2 and their Dr Evil lasers

and you probably agree

my point about the t-shirts was that people claim Bono/U2 does so much for the community/poor ... i just found $78 for a tshirt ironic

and yes most concerts sell overpriced bad quality crap...



anyway... who wants to buy some posters

http://www.expressobeans.com/trader.php?id=bostonlou&view=2

Qball

Bathgate66 wrote:

:mad: i don't throw rocks , pal , :mad:


where the fuck did i trash U2 ,... or Springsteen ( would / could never ) ?



I love them both, and , since we mentioned it , have spent literally thousands to see them both, regardless of how m,uch it may have cost me ,....above face value even . Along with PJ ' s fanclub, i am a member / subscriber to both U2s and Springsteens.

The above lithographs I spoke of ( from U2.com ) , I have purchased more then 1 , was looking into maybe buying more- ( hoping there may have been a dual U2 / PJ combo for the upcoming Hawaii gigs-- to no avail )


U2s use of the lights and lasers is a given ( they even used a Giant Lemon they all got stuck in for gods sake ). Conversely, Bruce doesnt need such antics, with or without the E Street Band or SSB behind him . Bruce utilizing a piano, a pump organ, various guitars and harmonicas are all he needs to be instantly " at home " onstage.. He is The Boss.



Oh & by the way i dont live in a glass house ,
i live in glass palace on the shoreline .

Oh my God Bath I am sorry I thought when you said you wanted to buy the u2 lithos you were only sh*tting on them because they do charge a bundle for those. (check u2.com's store..not sure if it is still up but they use to have lithos for like $500 but total proceeds went to charity)! I agree with everythign you ahve to say with Springsteen's "at home" feeling and with the rest of your post. My bad an I apologize.

Bathgate66

Qball wrote:

Oh my God Bath I am sorry I thought when you said you wanted to buy the u2 lithos you were only sh*tting on them because they do charge a bundle for those. (check u2.com's store..not sure if it is still up but they use to have lithos for like $500 but total proceeds went to charity)! I agree with everythign you ahve to say with Springsteen's "at home" feeling and with the rest of your post. My bad an I apologize.

no worries-

they are my top 3 also .

just hadda clear that up .

bostonlou

When does the DC go on sale?

frank_black

bostonlou wrote:

When does the DC go on sale?

Right before SF3

lamperti77

bostonlou wrote:

When does the DC go on sale?

i thought they were only going to be sold to those who attended the bostonlou show in January.