what, you forgot about "shock and awe"?
The media made that whole thing look like a video game.
Yeah no doubt...I kept fumbling with my joystick all night wondering why the screen wasn't responding...
uhm...maybe that didn't come out quite right
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
something i've wondered and i think i'll ask it here........i just got home and turned on the tv and dateline is on and stone jackoff is interviewing the father of one of the vt victims...........my question is......why would anyone want to go on tv and be exploited like that?.........i just lost my daughter in a violent murder so please mic me up and lets chat..........:rolleyes:
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Yes.
The whole Iraq thing is like a non-issue. I think it may be because we... the vast American populous... do not feel any pain in this war. The only ones making REAL sacrifices are the militaty personel over there and their families. The rest of us aren't doing shit. We are not suffering the 15 month seperations... the anxieties of I.E.D.s... the trauma of a casualty... the unimaginable pain of death. We are not asked to sacrifice anything... not rationing or shortages of goods and services... hell, we aren't even paying for this... or kids and their kids are getting slipped the bill.
And those yellow magnets that were Made in China on the back of your car... sorry, they don't count.
and honestly, the national guard people are the ones really getting fucked.
I have a guy I work with that was there for the maximum term when I first started working at my company, in the last year he's been pulled out every other month for a 2 week stint in Haiti or what have you for logistics and training, then in June, now that they've reached the minimum time they can be off, they will be sent back until June or July 09.
uh, yeah, how are you supposed to stay employed with that shit?
My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
something i've wondered and i think i'll ask it here........i just got home and turned on the tv and dateline is on and stone jackoff is interviewing the father of one of the vt victims...........my question is......why would anyone want to go on tv and be exploited like that?.........i just lost my daughter in a violent murder so please mic me up and lets chat..........:rolleyes:
CASH-OLA!!!
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
and honestly, the national guard people are the ones really getting fucked.
I have a guy I work with that was there for the maximum term when I first started working at my company, in the last year he's been pulled out every other month for a 2 week stint in Haiti or what have you for logistics and training, then in June, now that they've reached the minimum time they can be off, they will be sent back until June or July 09.
uh, yeah, how are you supposed to stay employed with that shit?
One thing I've always wondered if you volunteer in the army, why the fuck can't you volunteer out the exact same way you walked in?
I can stand on a street corner and scream for weeks how I'm not patriotic. I'll get some weird looks and comments but that's about all that will happen to me. Try dropping the gun in Iraq and saying I've had enough of this shit....later..
sounds like making a deal with the devil to me...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
people want to remain ignorant so they can avoid guilt ... it is quite simple ... no one wants to hear about the humanitarian crisis in sudan or the atrocities occuring in burma ... no one wants to hear those things because it creates a guilt ... same thing goes for the environment ... no one wants to know what their impacts are to the rest of society so they continue to only care about themselves ...
people want to remain ignorant so they can avoid guilt ... it is quite simple ... no one wants to hear about the humanitarian crisis in sudan or the atrocities occuring in burma ... no one wants to hear those things because it creates a guilt ... same thing goes for the environment ... no one wants to know what their impacts are to the rest of society so they continue to only care about themselves ...
yeah wow, Africa. It really dosen't matter what kind of government you are or even what political philosophy you happen to agree with....no one wants to do ANYthing in Africa.
The UN loves posting troops on the borders (Rwanda) until the situation subsides. We avoided the "G" word while that happened, this is YEARS worth of slaughter in Sudan and it's government sponsored but we are afraid to send peace keeping forces in for fear of angering the sudanese govt? Why? Why is anyone afraid of Sudan?
it's probably "black hawk down" events like the ones in Somalia that preclude nations from acting, but yeah it's awful and it has been for years.
It's pretty silly to have all these photo ops of politicians talking about ending Genocide while remembering the holocaust all the while refusing to do anything real to end the genocide in various places around the globe.... but I don't think anything is going to happen to change it really.
My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
yeah wow, Africa. It really dosen't matter what kind of government you are or even what political philosophy you happen to agree with....no one wants to do ANYthing in Africa.
The UN loves posting troops on the borders (Rwanda) until the situation subsides. We avoided the "G" word while that happened, this is YEARS worth of slaughter in Sudan and it's government sponsored but we are afraid to send peace keeping forces in for fear of angering the sudanese govt? Why? Why is anyone afraid of Sudan?
it's probably "black hawk down" events like the ones in Somalia that preclude nations from acting, but yeah it's awful and it has been for years.
It's pretty silly to have all these photo ops of politicians talking about ending Genocide while remembering the holocaust all the while refusing to do anything real to end the genocide in various places around the globe.... but I don't think anything is going to happen to change it really.
because everything is a ruse ... the only people that truly care are those working for non-profits ... there are too many powerful people with their own self interests at the UN, IMF, world bank for there ever to be anything done ...
africa's history is based on expoitation ... why would the rich countries now want to go in and help fix the problem they created?? ...
Seriously though, I made a similar statement about the 24hr news stations in the US, in my British history class, and my professor made an interesting comeback. I stated that the BBC does a much better job of presenting news in a fair and reasonable manner than CNN and other televised news sources.
She responded that a) many people in Britain don't like the BBC news, and prefer to get informed from more entertaining mediums (I have no idea if this is true or not. If any of you live in the UK you could verify it.) and b) The flashy nature of the cable news channels appeals to the masses, and that is what the majority of people want.
I think this is BS, but hey, to each their own.
I can see how this could be true, seeing that the news in the U.S. has become nothing but entertainment. Now the question stands is how they can make the news as entertaining as Dancing with the Stars and American Idol...They'd better continue updating us on the saga of Anna Nicole's baby, cause no one seems to want to hear actual news anymore, and Bush's administration continues to keep the real news hidden.
Dan Rather made a good remark on Bill Mahr a few weeks ago when he stated that reporting the news has taken a back seat to entertainment. He stated that the media in this country has stop presenting the facts, he included himself in the criticism, in favor of ratings.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I can see how this could be true, seeing that the news in the U.S. has become nothing but entertainment. Now the question stands is how they can make the news as entertaining as Dancing with the Stars and American Idol...They'd better continue updating us on the saga of Anna Nicole's baby, cause no one seems to want to hear actual news anymore, and Bush's administration continues to keep the real news hidden.
Maybe people watch American Idol and Dancing with the Stars because there is so much "bad" in the news, people want to tune out...
I scan headlines to read the news I want and skim over a lot of the more horrifying stories, i.e. the children who were murdered then thrown in the washer and dyer etc...I think too much of the grisly and sensational has been reported (the news is like a Jerry Springer show anymore and is unfit to watch with your kids in the house) instead of more of the high level report on the state of things. It's correlates to parenting-concentrate all your efforts on the bad, you will get and see the bad. The news needs to get back to finding good stories and reporting responsibly on this horrible war and not sensationalizing and analyzing school shootings and celebrity issues. People have been de-sensitized or others (like myself) feel so disconnected because I can not physically or mentally tolerate this so called news anymore and don't watch it.
People really need to stop watching and contact these media outlets (Grandpa Simpson style, maybe) and say NO MORE...we want responsible journalism and will not watch until they change. There are plenty of outlets or entertainment-the news -well, I hate the fucking news. I can not believe CNN had a shot ticker (Boycott time)
"Speak your mind even if your voice shakes" ~ M Kuhn
something i've wondered and i think i'll ask it here........i just got home and turned on the tv and dateline is on and stone jackoff is interviewing the father of one of the vt victims...........my question is......why would anyone want to go on tv and be exploited like that?.........i just lost my daughter in a violent murder so please mic me up and lets chat..........:rolleyes:
That's always puzzled me too -not sure how that would help the grieving process. The media catches them when they're still in shock maybe? Or that 15 minutes of fame thing -they want to be on T.V.. It's hard to know what one would do if those shoes were their own but I'm pretty damn sure that would be the last place I'd be if that were my kid.
"Speak your mind even if your voice shakes" ~ M Kuhn
I really strongly believe there is something to this. I also think this is the reason for the sudden influx of tabloid/entertainment "news" out there.
Yes, I agree. Mindless entertainment and escapism. Life is very stressful and hard and it may be comforting to some to see that rich, beautiful and famous people are just as messed up as anyone one of us.
"Speak your mind even if your voice shakes" ~ M Kuhn
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Yeah no doubt...I kept fumbling with my joystick all night wondering why the screen wasn't responding...
uhm...maybe that didn't come out quite right
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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eeeeewwwww! haha.
and honestly, the national guard people are the ones really getting fucked.
I have a guy I work with that was there for the maximum term when I first started working at my company, in the last year he's been pulled out every other month for a 2 week stint in Haiti or what have you for logistics and training, then in June, now that they've reached the minimum time they can be off, they will be sent back until June or July 09.
uh, yeah, how are you supposed to stay employed with that shit?
CASH-OLA!!!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
One thing I've always wondered if you volunteer in the army, why the fuck can't you volunteer out the exact same way you walked in?
I can stand on a street corner and scream for weeks how I'm not patriotic. I'll get some weird looks and comments but that's about all that will happen to me. Try dropping the gun in Iraq and saying I've had enough of this shit....later..
sounds like making a deal with the devil to me...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
people want to remain ignorant so they can avoid guilt ... it is quite simple ... no one wants to hear about the humanitarian crisis in sudan or the atrocities occuring in burma ... no one wants to hear those things because it creates a guilt ... same thing goes for the environment ... no one wants to know what their impacts are to the rest of society so they continue to only care about themselves ...
yeah wow, Africa. It really dosen't matter what kind of government you are or even what political philosophy you happen to agree with....no one wants to do ANYthing in Africa.
The UN loves posting troops on the borders (Rwanda) until the situation subsides. We avoided the "G" word while that happened, this is YEARS worth of slaughter in Sudan and it's government sponsored but we are afraid to send peace keeping forces in for fear of angering the sudanese govt? Why? Why is anyone afraid of Sudan?
it's probably "black hawk down" events like the ones in Somalia that preclude nations from acting, but yeah it's awful and it has been for years.
It's pretty silly to have all these photo ops of politicians talking about ending Genocide while remembering the holocaust all the while refusing to do anything real to end the genocide in various places around the globe.... but I don't think anything is going to happen to change it really.
because everything is a ruse ... the only people that truly care are those working for non-profits ... there are too many powerful people with their own self interests at the UN, IMF, world bank for there ever to be anything done ...
africa's history is based on expoitation ... why would the rich countries now want to go in and help fix the problem they created?? ...
Bill Moyers is starting a new show on PBS called "Bill Moyers Jounral" and the first topic is how the mainstream press screwed up the war coverage.
Go here for more details:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index.html
"All of us are entitled to our own opinion but not our own facts." Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Maybe people watch American Idol and Dancing with the Stars because there is so much "bad" in the news, people want to tune out...
I scan headlines to read the news I want and skim over a lot of the more horrifying stories, i.e. the children who were murdered then thrown in the washer and dyer etc...I think too much of the grisly and sensational has been reported (the news is like a Jerry Springer show anymore and is unfit to watch with your kids in the house) instead of more of the high level report on the state of things. It's correlates to parenting-concentrate all your efforts on the bad, you will get and see the bad. The news needs to get back to finding good stories and reporting responsibly on this horrible war and not sensationalizing and analyzing school shootings and celebrity issues. People have been de-sensitized or others (like myself) feel so disconnected because I can not physically or mentally tolerate this so called news anymore and don't watch it.
People really need to stop watching and contact these media outlets (Grandpa Simpson style, maybe) and say NO MORE...we want responsible journalism and will not watch until they change. There are plenty of outlets or entertainment-the news -well, I hate the fucking news. I can not believe CNN had a shot ticker (Boycott time)
I really strongly believe there is something to this. I also think this is the reason for the sudden influx of tabloid/entertainment "news" out there.
That's always puzzled me too -not sure how that would help the grieving process. The media catches them when they're still in shock maybe? Or that 15 minutes of fame thing -they want to be on T.V.. It's hard to know what one would do if those shoes were their own but I'm pretty damn sure that would be the last place I'd be if that were my kid.
Yes, I agree. Mindless entertainment and escapism. Life is very stressful and hard and it may be comforting to some to see that rich, beautiful and famous people are just as messed up as anyone one of us.