Anyone else annoyed/bemused with US media?

Pacomc79

Sanctimonious is a good word for the American media.

My gosh. It's absolutely insane.

Uh, last week you were breaking down Anna Nichols Baby...yeah...you're a great american.

Now the sky is falling and suddenly the most irresponsible people in America suddenly have all the answers as to how to fix the problems.

"Journalism" as we know it is dead in all but a few small settings.

"Reporting" as we know it now is a joke. Look good in makeup? Speak fairly clearly? Ok, you're hired, read the copy off the teleprompter monkey.

Fact Checking is beyond 99% of all of our "news" media.

We have freaking OP Ed everything.....why not just have a giant interactive news message board at 6:30?

I'm fine with slow information...as long as it's quality.

polaris

just caught on now?

consider yourself one of the lucky ones ...

Pacomc79

polaris wrote:

just caught on now?

consider yourself one of the lucky ones ...

no I've known it for a long long time, I just was renewed in my vigor after actually turning on Fox and CNN for a brief period last night.

I don't see how anyone cares to watch that crap.

I majored in media and worked in news radio for a while I know the in's and out's I know it's basically hard copy, but it's still incredibly sanctimonious. Not unlike our Politicians actually.

polaris

Pacomc79 wrote:

no I've known it for a long long time, I just was renewed in my vigor after actually turning on Fox and CNN for a brief period last night.

I don't see how anyone cares to watch that crap.

I majored in media and worked in news radio for a while I know the in's and out's I know it's basically hard copy, but it's still incredibly sanctimonious.

well ... it works ... keeps the masses in suspended reality while the things that really matter get lost in the wind ...

SPALMA

I was astounded at the interviews. If they didn't get the reaction/answers they wanted, they "lead" the interviewee. Unbeleivable. One woman was interviewing a student last night and was frustrated because she couldn't find the outrage that she was looking for and finally she asked the beleaguered (and shocked looking) student:

"You KNOW that there are MANY PEOPLE, OUTRAGED at this horrific act, so now, at this time, TONIGHT, do you think YOU can say that there was something, ANYTHING, that could have been done to prevent this?"

She was shrill and enunciating at the same time.

the poor kid blinked a couple of times and said, "I don't know. I'm just shocked."

un-fucking believable.





Then I changed to fox just in time to see Oreilly attack Greta Von S. who had been reporting the (lack of) information at the Police briefing. She shot back, "I am NOT DEFENDING them!" Poor Bill, had no one to yell at, yet, so he goes after his own co-worker.

I turned it off at that.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I like how we segued from Anna Nicole straight to Imus...

Britney, Paris, or Lohan should be up for front page domination any day now...

Cosmo

The thing I find simply downright shameful... American Troops are dying overseas and it is presented simply as a footnote to the American people.

Staceb10

Is it really just the US media though? I watched some of the news when I was in Toronto and it wasn't all that different. I'm sure 90% of ALL news media is screwed up.

polaris

Cosmo wrote:

The thing I find simply downright shameful... American Troops are dying overseas and it is presented simply as a footnote to the American people.

or the suffering that has occured as the result of this occupation ...

Abookamongstthemany

What kills me is when people on this board act like a source isn't good enough unless it's from a major news outlet! Hello?! Those are the ones telling the biggest lies!

Cosmo

polaris wrote:

or the suffering that has occured as the result of this occupation ...

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Yes.
The whole Iraq thing is like a non-issue. I think it may be because we... the vast American populous... do not feel any pain in this war. The only ones making REAL sacrifices are the militaty personel over there and their families. The rest of us aren't doing shit. We are not suffering the 15 month seperations... the anxieties of I.E.D.s... the trauma of a casualty... the unimaginable pain of death. We are not asked to sacrifice anything... not rationing or shortages of goods and services... hell, we aren't even paying for this... or kids and their kids are getting slipped the bill.
And those yellow magnets that were Made in China on the back of your car... sorry, they don't count.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Cosmo wrote:

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Yes.
The whole Iraq thing is like a non-issue. I think it may be because we... the vast American populous... do not feel any pain in this war. The only ones making REAL sacrifices are the militaty personel over there and their families. The rest of us aren't doing shit. We are not suffering the 15 month seperations... the anxieties of I.E.D.s... the trauma of a casualty... the unimaginable pain of death. We are not asked to sacrifice anything... not rationing or shortages of goods and services... hell, we aren't even paying for this... or kids and their kids are getting slipped the bill.
And those yellow magnets that were Made in China on the back of your car... sorry, they don't count.

Not to mention all these troop extensions is essentially a back door draft.

Truthmonger

Staceb10 wrote:

Is it really just the US media though? I watched some of the news when I was in Toronto and it wasn't all that different. I'm sure 90% of ALL news media is screwed up.

No, American network news is in a league by itself. When the Iraq war was starting, Americans wanting some degree of truth were turning to either Canadian news or British news.

OneLove

I was just watching my evening news ( I live in northern VA, about 4 hours away from Tech, in the hometown of the shooter).

The anchor literally just spelled out the full address of the shooters family. Right there on the news. It was almost as if to say "grab your torches, we now have someone to blame".

How irresponsible can you get.

Cosmo

Truthmonger wrote:

No, American network news is in a league by itself. When the Iraq war was starting, Americans wanting some degree of truth were turning to either Canadian news or British news.

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That's true. The War was played out like a creepy reality television show... with a theme song and opening graphics. The scripted Chapters, 'Shock and Awe' through 'Mission: Accomplished' was supposed to be the entire story. It was supposed to end with Iraqi women rushing to kiss dog-faced G.I.s riding on top of Abrahams Tanks... rose petals and wine. The Epilogue was supposed to be the christening of Wal-Mart on 'George W. Bush Avenue' in Downtown Baghdad, leading to a solemn commemoration at Ground Zero on September 11th, 2004 which culminated in a crushing landslide "I-Told-You-So" defeat of the bleeding heart liberals in the November Election.
Too bad the producers green lighted this project. They should have seen that it was way too much fantasy and not enough reality involved. Maybe we should have hired the Iraqis and other disgruntled Arabs over there on scale... or at least, promised them a percentage of the DVD royalties.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Cosmo wrote:

...
That's true. The War was played out like a creepy reality television show... with a theme song and opening graphics. The scripted Chapters, 'Shock and Awe' through 'Mission: Accomplished' was supposed to be the entire story. It was supposed to end with Iraqi women rushing to kiss dog-faced G.I.s riding on top of Abrahams Tanks... rose petals and wine. The Epilogue was supposed to be the christening of Wal-Mart on 'George W. Bush Avenue' in Downtown Baghdad, leading to a solemn commemoration at Ground Zero on September 11th, 2004 which culminated in a crushing landslide "I-Told-You-So" defeat of the bleeding heart liberals in the November Election.
Too bad the producers green lighted this project. They should have seen that it was way too much fantasy and not enough reality involved. Maybe we should have hired the Iraqis and other disgruntled Arabs over there on scale... or at least, promised them a percentage of the DVD royalties.

Text msg voting would have been nice

peeps

one of the reasons why the US is probably the worst country in the western world to live in. Land of the brave and free my gaping asshole.

my2hands

peeps wrote:

one of the reasons why the US is probably the worst country in the western world to live in. Land of the brave and free my gaping asshole.

wow, this can only be the the infamous "Peeps" himself. there goes the neigborhood :rolleyes:

pjflea

One important fact: CNN and Fox do supply great material for the Daily Show and Colbert Report.

Seriously though, I made a similar statement about the 24hr news stations in the US, in my British history class, and my professor made an interesting comeback. I stated that the BBC does a much better job of presenting news in a fair and reasonable manner than CNN and other televised news sources.

She responded that a) many people in Britain don't like the BBC news, and prefer to get informed from more entertaining mediums (I have no idea if this is true or not. If any of you live in the UK you could verify it.) and b) The flashy nature of the cable news channels appeals to the masses, and that is what the majority of people want.

I think this is BS, but hey, to each their own.

somebodyelsessky2020

sensationalism at it's finest. with circus like atmosphere and a non stop 24 hour a day deluge so fast paced they sound almost out of breath on screen when a big story like this comes along. events so detailed it's like a live training manual or unpaid advertisement for the next maniac to make sure all grounds are covered even better and they have a foolproof strategy planned. already reports of copycat threats at other campuses. amazing how quick the imus coverage was dropped and forgotten. anna nicole not even mentioned today. i'm sure imus, stern and burkhead are a bit relieved for now. i can just imagine the clamoring for the lead in the newsroom for the breaking story...greta and nancy grace doing acrobatic cartwheels down the hall. heraldo rivera primping the mustache. and they all have such fake looks on their faces they get me sick.

MrBrian

Pacomc79 wrote:

Sanctimonious is a good word for the American media.

My gosh. It's absolutely insane.

Uh, last week you were breaking down Anna Nichols Baby...yeah...you're a great american.

Now the sky is falling and suddenly the most irresponsible people in America suddenly have all the answers as to how to fix the problems.

"Journalism" as we know it is dead in all but a few small settings.

"Reporting" as we know it now is a joke. Look good in makeup? Speak fairly clearly? Ok, you're hired, read the copy off the teleprompter monkey.

Fact Checking is beyond 99% of all of our "news" media.

We have freaking OP Ed everything.....why not just have a giant interactive news message board at 6:30?

I'm fine with slow information...as long as it's quality.

I think it's fair to say that most americans care nothing about quality anything. be it cars,food,roads,homes or whatever else. As long as it's quick or cheap (sometimes both quick and cheap).

Example, Motorola, and american company ups the quality of it's products for europe and asia while drops the quality for america.

Imagine quality news being shown in america. people just would not be able to take it, they would say "whats with all these words?" american would demand the bright graphics and catchy headlines "remember 33 tech" "war on terror"

CNN had a "bullet counter" the other day, counting each shot fired at virg tech. a bullet counter on the side! it was like a baseball game or something showing stats. just kinda weird. then they just loop it. over and over.

norm

MrBrian wrote:

CNN had a "bullet counter" the other day, counting each shot fired at virg tech. a bullet counter on the side! it was like a baseball game or something showing stats. just kinda weird. then they just loop it. over and over.

please, please, pleeeeeeaaaase tell me you're kidding.......:eek:

somebodyelsessky2020

cutback wrote:

please, please, pleeeeeeaaaase tell me you're kidding.......:eek:

i seen the bullet counter too he's not kidding i think it counted up to 28 if i'm not mistaken.

norm

somebodyelse'ssky wrote:

i seen the bullet counter too he's not kidding i think it counted up to 28 if i'm not mistaken.

that is fucking wrong...............what kind of asshole thinks that up........:mad:....another reason why I don't bother with the so-called media........$$$$ before facts........

somebodyelsessky2020

cutback wrote:

that is fucking wrong...............what kind of asshole thinks that up........:mad:....another reason why I don't bother with the so-called media........$$$$ before facts........

i was there watching thinking what the hell is this? they made it seem like the countdown to new years with the digits ticking every time you could hear a pop. it was a video a kid filmed on his cell phone from outside the building.

norm

somebodyelse'ssky wrote:

i was there watching thinking what the hell is this? they made it seem like the countdown to new years with the digits ticking every time you could hear a pop. it was a video a kid filmed on his cell phone from outside the building.

that makes me wanna puke and cry........has society's value of life got this low........:(

somebodyelsessky2020

cutback wrote:

that makes me wanna puke and cry........has society's value of life got this low........:(

i don't know if i would say society as a whole but the media sure has.

MrBrian

cutback wrote:

that makes me wanna puke and cry........has society's value of life got this low........:(

what, you forgot about "shock and awe"?
The media made that whole thing look like a video game.

norm

somebodyelse'ssky wrote:

i don't know if i would say society as a whole but the media sure has.

yeah but cnn, foxnews et al are driven by ratings and they do a lot of research on what their viewers want to increase their ratings so theoretically they are reflecting society........it's a bit of a stretch I know but I think (hope) you see my point...:)

norm

MrBrian wrote:

what, you forgot about "shock and awe"?
The media made that whole thing look like a video game.

I've become numb to the horseshit Iraq coverage.......:(

somebodyelsessky2020

cutback wrote:

yeah but cnn, foxnews et al are driven by ratings and they do a lot of research on what their viewers want to increase their ratings so theoretically they are reflecting society........it's a bit of a stretch I know but I think (hope) you see my point...:)

yeah i got ya.