House votes to overturn mandatory gun locks

69charger

blackredyellow wrote:

Exactly, and look how much education is given for driving.

And look how little that amount of education is doing to prevent deaths!

Speaking of driving, overturning this law is the same as auto makers selling cars witout seatbelts (I'm guessing there are laws about that). Of course trigger locks (and seatbelts) don't help if they are not used, but if one kid can't shoot anyone becuase the gun he picks up has a trigger lock on it, they it's a good law. If you don't want to use them, then don't but this law at least gives you a lock with your gun.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Seatbelts, when properly used, do not prevent the car from functioning. Seatbelts are also not specifically designed with children in mind and can actually be more fatal to children.

thankyougrandma

69charger wrote:

Look, firearms are not going away any time soon. Let's come up with solutions that will actually do some good. This law is impotent. Locks sold with guns will not protect anyone if they are not used.

Your argument is the equivalent of teaching 'abstinence only' and we know how effective that is.

No it's not, they tell you not to take drugs before you get to high school because they say it's bad for you, i have yet to find a school in the world that actually make you try these drugs.

As a solution, change your constitution, first, as a statement to take away some of that guns glorification, that makes it look like a toy or an everday thing in so many americans life. Accidents can happen anywhere all the time, but locks can prevent some, so that's another good solution, teach kids in school NOT to use a gun, could also be a good thing. The myth that you need a gun to protect yourself is just ridiculous.

blackredyellow

69charger wrote:

And look how little that amount of education is doing to prevent deaths!.

You keep making my point for me... you said that a gun safety class would help reduce gun accidents. My point is that education wouldn't really make guns safer.

Morons keeping loaded guns (or storing guns with ammo) where children can get to them is the problem. Trigger locks can help that situation a little bit.

Uncle Leo

69charger wrote:

A good law would be mandatory gun safety classes in middle school. Show kids how to check to see if a gun is loaded and how to unload it. Make firearms less taboo to kids and interest in monkeying around with guns will go down.

I can picture the drooling NRA leadership right now. Boy would they love this.

hippiemom

mammasan wrote:

Yes lets teach kids how to properly handle fire arms but refrain from teaching them how to have safe sex.

What would be more appropriate would be to require individual who are purchasing a weapon to attend a fire arms safety course. Teach them how to properly store aways your weapon so their kids can't get to them.

Classes like this one?

69charger

thankyougrandma wrote:

No it's not, they tell you not to take drugs before you get to high school because they say it's bad for you, i have yet to find a school in the world that actually make you try these drugs.

Again, apples and oranges; the problem is accidental shootings. The schools aren't going to ask you to accidentally shoot someone. They would be trying to show you how to prevent that.

As a solution, change your constitution, first, as a statement to take away some of that guns glorification, that makes it look like a toy or an everday thing in so many americans life. Accidents can happen anywhere all the time, but locks can prevent some, so that's another good solution, teach kids in school NOT to use a gun, could also be a good thing. The myth that you need a gun to protect yourself is just ridiculous.

I'll come back for this part later. Gotta go to work.

Uncle Leo

hippiemom wrote:

Classes like this one?

Wow.

thankyougrandma

69charger wrote:

Again, apples and oranges; the problem is accidental shootings. The schools aren't going to ask you to accidentally shoot someone. They would be trying to show you how to prevent that.


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Why don't make education mandatory when you actually buy a gun then? That would make the parents who have a gun and kids playing around them, more responsible, and more aware of the danger, and would prevent more Cheney like accident also, by actually being able to make the difference between a man and a deer . I don't think teaching everyone how to use a gun therefore making it look even more common in the eyes of kids, would prevent more accidents. Education to gun buyers would be better i think.

Also legislation to make parents responsible, example in Canada, if your gun is not properly locked, and your kids find it and use it, the parent is responsible and will probably serve time.

moeaholic

hippiemom wrote:

Classes like this one?

so every time that guy had a lecture on gun safety, he shot himself in the leg?

mammasan

hippiemom wrote:

Classes like this one?

Well at least he wasn't teaching sex ed.

keeponrockin

That class thing was hilarious.