House votes to overturn mandatory gun locks
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This boggles my mind... I understand that most gun control laws don't work, but really, who can argue that these locks don't help? A kid finds a gun that isn't locked, there is a slim chance that he/she could fire it... if a kid finds a gun with a trigger lock, there is no way possible to fire it. And the arguement that the cost is passed on to the customer???? They cost like $7 retail. And today the house will spend most of the day talking about the New York Times... I want my government back.
House votes to overturn mandatory gun locks
Wed Jun 28, 11:15 PM ET
The U.S. House of Representatives voted on Wednesday to overturn a recently enacted law requiring safety trigger locks on all hand guns sold in the United States.
The Republican-controlled House handed a victory to opponents of gun control by a vote of 230-191.
Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (news, bio, voting record), a Colorado Republican, argued that the added cost of the trigger locks is passed on to gun owners and that they "do not stop accidental shootings."
Last fall, President George W. Bush signed legislation giving gun makers broad protections from civil lawsuits, but that law contained the mandatory trigger lock provision.
The amendment overturning the requirement for trigger locks was attached to a larger law enforcement spending bill for next year that has not yet been considered by the Senate.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060629/pl_nm/congress_guns_dc_1
House votes to overturn mandatory gun locks
Wed Jun 28, 11:15 PM ET
The U.S. House of Representatives voted on Wednesday to overturn a recently enacted law requiring safety trigger locks on all hand guns sold in the United States.
The Republican-controlled House handed a victory to opponents of gun control by a vote of 230-191.
Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (news, bio, voting record), a Colorado Republican, argued that the added cost of the trigger locks is passed on to gun owners and that they "do not stop accidental shootings."
Last fall, President George W. Bush signed legislation giving gun makers broad protections from civil lawsuits, but that law contained the mandatory trigger lock provision.
The amendment overturning the requirement for trigger locks was attached to a larger law enforcement spending bill for next year that has not yet been considered by the Senate.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060629/pl_nm/congress_guns_dc_1
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I'm all for gun ownership but i think that anything we can do to keep accidental firearm discharge from occurring is a good thing.
Yeah, I don't see how she could make that claim... obviously the locks don't prevent accidental shootings if they aren't on the guns, but with the different types of trigger/gun locks that I've seen, there is no way to fire a gun with them on.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
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When did you ever really have it?
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Never I guess... But I would at least like to have it back to the level of hypocracy, greed and incompetence that I grew up with.
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― Abraham Lincoln
That's more like it!
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Yes. Because asprin is known to be deadlier than guns. *sarcasm*
I realize asprin is dangerous, but come on.
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~Michael Bolton
A good law would be mandatory gun safety classes in middle school. Show kids how to check to see if a gun is loaded and how to unload it. Make firearms less taboo to kids and interest in monkeying around with guns will go down.
Yes lets teach kids how to properly handle fire arms but refrain from teaching them how to have safe sex.
What would be more appropriate would be to require individual who are purchasing a weapon to attend a fire arms safety course. Teach them how to properly store aways your weapon so their kids can't get to them.
The man makes a good point.
On the other hand, sex is much more dangerous than guns!
*sarcasm*
yes, way to go, show them how to use a gun, all these criminals out there are going after their life after all, must be protected with a loaded unlocked weapon all the time, ok kids...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Yes, because we all know that 16 year old kids that have drivers education classes don't have accidents. :rolleyes:
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of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Look, firearms are not going away any time soon. Let's come up with solutions that will actually do some good. This law is impotent. Locks sold with guns will not protect anyone if they are not used.
Your argument is the equivalent of teaching 'abstinence only' and we know how effective that is.
Far more accidents with cars than with firearms
In 2000, 174 children (0-18) in the United States died from unintentional firearm-related injuries.
In 2000, 6,466 children (0-18) in the United States were killed in motor vehicle crashes.
Cars are 37.16 times more dangerous to children than guns.
http://www.childdeathreview.org/
Exactly, and look how much education is given for driving.
Speaking of driving, overturning this law is the same as auto makers selling cars witout seatbelts (I'm guessing there are laws about that). Of course trigger locks (and seatbelts) don't help if they are not used, but if one kid can't shoot anyone becuase the gun he picks up has a trigger lock on it, they it's a good law. If you don't want to use them, then don't but this law at least gives you a lock with your gun.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
And look how little that amount of education is doing to prevent deaths!
You are comparing apples to oranges. Seatbelts, when properly used, do not prevent the car from functioning. Seatbelts are also not specifically designed with children in mind and can actually be more fatal to children.
No it's not, they tell you not to take drugs before you get to high school because they say it's bad for you, i have yet to find a school in the world that actually make you try these drugs.
As a solution, change your constitution, first, as a statement to take away some of that guns glorification, that makes it look like a toy or an everday thing in so many americans life. Accidents can happen anywhere all the time, but locks can prevent some, so that's another good solution, teach kids in school NOT to use a gun, could also be a good thing. The myth that you need a gun to protect yourself is just ridiculous.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
You keep making my point for me... you said that a gun safety class would help reduce gun accidents. My point is that education wouldn't really make guns safer.
Morons keeping loaded guns (or storing guns with ammo) where children can get to them is the problem. Trigger locks can help that situation a little bit.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
I can picture the drooling NRA leadership right now. Boy would they love this.
Again, apples and oranges; the problem is accidental shootings. The schools aren't going to ask you to accidentally shoot someone. They would be trying to show you how to prevent that.
I'll come back for this part later. Gotta go to work.
Wow.
Why don't make education mandatory when you actually buy a gun then? That would make the parents who have a gun and kids playing around them, more responsible, and more aware of the danger, and would prevent more Cheney like accident also, by actually being able to make the difference between a man and a deer
Also legislation to make parents responsible, example in Canada, if your gun is not properly locked, and your kids find it and use it, the parent is responsible and will probably serve time.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
so every time that guy had a lecture on gun safety, he shot himself in the leg?
~Michael Bolton
Well at least he wasn't teaching sex ed.