please conspiracy debunkers, answer this,...

farfromglorified

LBC1076 wrote:

Oh, then just the ones who question it here?

No. Everyone has questions to ask.

El_Kabong

farfromglorified wrote:

Of course it's unlikely! But the FBI still somehow managed to convince people that the other terrorists were guilty without recovering their passports. Furthermore, a rather unlikely event is pretty stupid to stage. Think about it for a second. If you're going to stage such an event just rent apartments in these guys' names and fill them with terrorist propaganda. Then have your plane crash, pull their names off the manifest, investigate those same apartments and say "look what we found!!!" Not only is that less questionnable, but it's actually better evidence than a half-burnt passport.

how's this for a scenario, and plz keep in mind i'm not saying it's what i believe, just something that popped into my head...

the head of the isi had $100,000 wired to mohammed atta shortly before 9/11 <he was also linked to the 7/11 bombers in mumbai> the isi was the middle man between us <and other countries, tho we were the biggest funders> and ppl like bin laden and al-zawihiri in the 80's....so the isi created this network of cells which were used in afghanistan, in kosovo, the balkans, chechneya...

i've read conflicting articles on whether or not the hijacked planes had this or not but there are boeings that have a flight override system, meaning NORAD or someone else can tap into the computer system of a plane and fly it kinda by remote control. i've also read that the flight system on these planes will not allow it to make such hard turns <as it did before hitting the pentagon> but supposedly if the system is overrided it can...not sure how true that is, but i have read governmental sources saying they have had this technology to fly airliners by remote control since the 70's.

what if they were set up and thought their mission was something different? what if they hijacked the plane and then the plane was taken over electronically and crashed into the buildings?

again, i'm not saying this is how i think it went down, just a scenario that came to mind

farfromglorified

El_Kabong wrote:

how's this for a scenario, and plz keep in mind i'm not saying it's what i believe, just something that popped into my head...

the head of the isi had $100,000 wired to mohammed atta shortly before 9/11 <he was also linked to the 7/11 bombers in mumbai> the isi was the middle man between us <and other countries, tho we were the biggest funders> and ppl like bin laden and al-zawihiri in the 80's....so the isi created this network of cells which were used in afghanistan, in kosovo, the balkans, chechneya...

i've read conflicting articles on whether or not the hijacked planes had this or not but there are boeings that have a flight override system, meaning NORAD or someone else can tap into the computer system of a plane and fly it kinda by remote control. i've also read that the flight system on these planes will not allow it to make such hard turns <as it did before hitting the pentagon> but supposedly if the system is overrided it can...not sure how true that is, but i have read governmental sources saying they have had this technology to fly airliners by remote control since the 70's.

what if they were set up and thought their mission was something different? what if they hijacked the plane and then the plane was taken over electronically and crashed into the buildings?

again, i'm not saying this is how i think it went down, just a scenario that came to mind

You definitely get points for imagination here, but you kind of lost me at "flight override system". This is pretty far-fetched. Modern Boeing planes do have a lot of cool auto-pilot features. But they don't have the required technologies to be controlled from the ground. While it's certainly theoretically possible that a Boeing jet could be equipped with such mechanisms and such a ground-controlled flight situation could happen, I don't see any evidence that it did happen. Furthermore, how would you explain the black-box recordings that family members and investigators listened to from some of the jets?

It is funny that you mentioned this. I've always fantasized about starting an airline that has no pilots or crew where the planes are all flown from the ground. My friends have teased me about this for years (with good cause )......

El_Kabong

farfromglorified wrote:

You definitely get points for imagination here, but you kind of lost me at "flight override system". This is pretty far-fetched. Modern Boeing planes do have a lot of cool auto-pilot features. But they don't have the required technologies to be controlled from the ground. While it's certainly theoretically possible that a Boeing jet could be equipped with such mechanisms and such a ground-controlled flight situation could happen, I don't see any evidence that it did happen. Furthermore, how would you explain the black-box recordings that family members and investigators listened to from some of the jets?

It is funny that you mentioned this. I've always fantasized about starting an airline that has no pilots or crew where the planes are all flown from the ground. My friends have teased me about this for years (with good cause )......

yeah, i got to thinking after reading some interview w/ some russian...forgot what he used to do, maybe kgb, anyway that doesn't matter...he mentioned something, i think it was called the 'home run' system or something. i've read articles saying certain boeings have them installed other artciles saying only by request...and i have read some military article about them landing some version of boeing by remote control in the 70's.

ok, i did a search and it was a german

some sites on it:
http://www.simlabs.arc.nasa.gov/library_docs/tech_papers/AIAA%201996/Sullivan/1996_3521.pdf#search=%22A%20fully%20integrated%20flight%20management%20computer%20system%20(FMCS)%20provides%20for%20automatic%20guidance%20and%20control%20%22

http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/planes-of-911-exceeded-their-software-limits

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_flight_control_systems#Fly-by-wire

El_Kabong

and htis one
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Movie/CID/index.html

again, i ahve no clue, just an interesting theory to kick about

farfromglorified

El_Kabong wrote:

and htis one
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Movie/CID/index.html

again, i ahve no clue, just an interesting theory to kick about

Yeah...it's certainly not impossible.