None of these symbols are Christian. The Mass of Christ was in september sometime.
Santa Claus is arguably a depiction of an ancient shaman who would collect magic mushrooms for the Winter Solstice. The shaman would deliver these mushrooms to the village folk by climbing down their chimney because their front door was blocked by snow. The shrooms would then be hung by the fireplace to dry.
A snowman is one of a limited number of sculptures children could easily make with snow, and probably the first snow sculpture to ever be made. I doubt the snowman was invented in 700 A.D. when Christian mythology was first concocted. Snowmen have probably been around as long as snow and children.
Holly is not a Christian symbol either, it was what the Church suggested people use instead of the pagan symbol, something similar.
Basic truth, all of Christian tradition is a rip off of other traditions.
The star Bethlehem is the star Syrius which is directly above the newborn SUN on Dec 25, which lies below the "three kings" in the night sky. Orion's Belt is called Drie Konings (Three Kings) by Afrikaans speakers in South Africa, and French les Trois Rois (the Three Kings) in Daudet's Lettres de Mon Moulin (1866).
It's all ancient mythology copied and modified to support elitism.
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Sometimes shamans would hang the mushrooms (Fly agaria/Amanita Muscaria) on pine trees to dry out. Thus we have christmas trees and the decorations resemble the amanita muscaria.
In-fact, you will see the amanita muscaria, a psychedelic mushroom on many christmas cards and decorations. Even santa claus, with his red and white clothes resembles amanita muscaria.
The shamans also used Reindeers to filter the toxic constituents of the amanita muscaria. Directly eating the mushrooms causes some gastrointestinal discomfort. However, reindeers like these mushrooms as well and shamans used them to locate the mushrooms, they also drank the reindeer urine because it was filtered.
I mean, these are all just theories about history, but so is the Christian account. At least this shamanistic psychadelic theory explains all these symbols.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
That's all good, but Im more concerned how people run amok with political correctness. I do believe in my case it stemmed from someone complaining about the "holiday" favors at one party. I found it funny though that we had a xmas tree at the party last year. No rhyme or reason.
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That's all good, but Im more concerned how people run amok with political correctness. I do believe in my case it stemmed from someone complaining about the "holiday" favors at one party. I found it funny though that we had a xmas tree at the party last year. No rhyme or reason.
It's all dogma to me.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I was curious about people's opinions on a subject...particularly jewish people. Every year we have to be super careful about what we use in terms of a theme for our Holiday party, and yes we don't dare to call it a christmas party. So anyway I was helping my boss choose invitations and I like this snowman design. She knocked it down, citing it too "christmasy" How in the heck is a snowman christmasy? I can see if he had a santa hat on or was holding a crucifix?
I don't know..maybe Im missing something. So in an effort to be so politically correct and sensitive our parties seem so boring and plain.
I guess, having read through a little more of the thread, my thought is that people will always find things to complain about at Christmas.
Having organized the office christmas lunch for many years, I know this. :rolleyes:
By wanting to celebrate Christmas, WHICH really has NOTHING to do with the religious history of the holiday for me, I figure you can really only do your thing and if people are offended they can say so, and you can let them know why they shouldn't bother being offended.
I guess, having read through a little more of the thread, my thought is that people will always find things to complain about at Christmas.
Having organized the office christmas lunch for many years, I know this. :rolleyes:
By wanting to celebrate Christmas, WHICH really has NOTHING to do with the religious history of the holiday for me, I figure you can really only do your thing and if people are offended they can say so, and you can let them know why they shouldn't bother being offended.
That's for sure, people will always complain about something. But you have your work cut out for you . I know I would offend everyone. I'd have all kinds of snowmen w/santa hats all over the place...lol
These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
That's for sure, people will always complain about something. But you have your work cut out for you : ). I know I would offend everyone. I'd have all kinds of snowmen w/santa hats all over the place...lol
haha! I love when we get out the old christmas tree. It's sooo kitch!
It's OLDER than me and the rattiest thing you've ever seen, but I love it!
I'd also love if I could be involved with the celebrations that other cultures have around the holiday season, but I don't really know anyone that would include me in their festivities.
As far as I can see it's the one time of year that people can get together, enjoy each other's company and let fly on a whole bunch of silly traditions and for some important cultural and religious traditions. I reckon whatever is your way of celebrating is fine by me. And anyone is welcome to join in my celebrations. Just don't be whinging at me for how I go about what I do, and I won't be whinging at you for how you go about what you do.
Bring on the snowmen and santa hats! I love the lights!
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Santa Claus is arguably a depiction of an ancient shaman who would collect magic mushrooms for the Winter Solstice. The shaman would deliver these mushrooms to the village folk by climbing down their chimney because their front door was blocked by snow. The shrooms would then be hung by the fireplace to dry.
A snowman is one of a limited number of sculptures children could easily make with snow, and probably the first snow sculpture to ever be made. I doubt the snowman was invented in 700 A.D. when Christian mythology was first concocted. Snowmen have probably been around as long as snow and children.
Holly is not a Christian symbol either, it was what the Church suggested people use instead of the pagan symbol, something similar.
Basic truth, all of Christian tradition is a rip off of other traditions.
The star Bethlehem is the star Syrius which is directly above the newborn SUN on Dec 25, which lies below the "three kings" in the night sky. Orion's Belt is called Drie Konings (Three Kings) by Afrikaans speakers in South Africa, and French les Trois Rois (the Three Kings) in Daudet's Lettres de Mon Moulin (1866).
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/2223/nativitysky1su.jpg
It's all ancient mythology copied and modified to support elitism.
In-fact, you will see the amanita muscaria, a psychedelic mushroom on many christmas cards and decorations. Even santa claus, with his red and white clothes resembles amanita muscaria.
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=amanita+muscaria
The shamans also used Reindeers to filter the toxic constituents of the amanita muscaria. Directly eating the mushrooms causes some gastrointestinal discomfort. However, reindeers like these mushrooms as well and shamans used them to locate the mushrooms, they also drank the reindeer urine because it was filtered.
I mean, these are all just theories about history, but so is the Christian account. At least this shamanistic psychadelic theory explains all these symbols.
It's all dogma to me.
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it's b.s. to me. ahnimus
I guess, having read through a little more of the thread, my thought is that people will always find things to complain about at Christmas.
Having organized the office christmas lunch for many years, I know this. :rolleyes:
By wanting to celebrate Christmas, WHICH really has NOTHING to do with the religious history of the holiday for me, I figure you can really only do your thing and if people are offended they can say so, and you can let them know why they shouldn't bother being offended.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
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That's for sure, people will always complain about something. But you have your work cut out for you
haha! I love when we get out the old christmas tree. It's sooo kitch!
It's OLDER than me and the rattiest thing you've ever seen, but I love it!
I'd also love if I could be involved with the celebrations that other cultures have around the holiday season, but I don't really know anyone that would include me in their festivities.
As far as I can see it's the one time of year that people can get together, enjoy each other's company and let fly on a whole bunch of silly traditions and for some important cultural and religious traditions. I reckon whatever is your way of celebrating is fine by me. And anyone is welcome to join in my celebrations. Just don't be whinging at me for how I go about what I do, and I won't be whinging at you for how you go about what you do.
Bring on the snowmen and santa hats!
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift