Who are we at war with?

Abuskedti
Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
Help me to understand who this "they" or "The terrorists" are.

In your best estimation...How many are there? Where is your best guess that they are located - How and where do they organize? What is their goal?
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  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Help me to understand who this "they" or "The terrorists" are.

    In your best estimation...How many are there? Where is your best guess that they are located - How and where do they organize? What is their goal?

    We are at war with Muslims who take the Koran at its word and use its passages as a basis of committing violent atrocities in an attempt to convert the world to a fundamentalist Islamic one.

    Example: Once the Fox news reporters pledged their allegiance to Islam, they were set free. Get it?
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    jsand wrote:
    We are at war with Muslims who take the Koran at its word and use its passages as a basis of committing violent atrocities in an attempt to convert the world to a fundamentalist Islamic one.

    Example: Once the Fox news reporters pledged their allegiance to Islam, they were set free. Get it?

    you are confident in your response.. but please address each question.. how many muslims?
  • acutejam
    acutejam Posts: 1,433
    Mind if I let Mr. Blair answer?

    http://www.number10.gov.uk/output/Page9948.asp
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  • We would be at war with not a people but an ideology - Islamic Fascism -
    Taking a peaceful religion and re-creating it to settle some personal agenda-
    a sweet and lovely practice that involves blowing your head off and blowing the arms and legs off of a 3 year old child ....IF....and here's the best part....
    they are in the area where you decide to stage your attack in the name of your God who will then reward you with 17 naked virgins in heaven for you to stick your dirty pecker into afterwards -


    Fun huh?
    I'll keep taking punches
    Untill their will grows tired
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    We would be at war with not a people but an ideology - Islamic Fascism -
    Taking a peaceful religion and re-creating it to settle some personal agenda-
    a sweet and lovely practice that involves blowing your head off and blowing the arms and legs off of a 3 year old child ....IF....and here's the best part....
    they are in the area where you decide to stage your attack in the name of your God who will then reward you with 17 naked virgins in heaven for you to stick your dirty pecker into afterwards -


    Fun huh?

    Agree, but it's 72 virgins! They wouldn't be blowing themselves up for a mere 17 virgins...
  • Pickr
    Pickr Posts: 161
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Help me to understand who this "they" or "The terrorists" are.

    In your best estimation...How many are there? Where is your best guess that they are located - How and where do they organize? What is their goal?

    How many? More and more every day, located within the Middle East and North America, organize via modern day means (internet). goal? I don't quite understand what thier goal is.
    Stix and Stones may break my bones, but More than Words will never hurt me.
  • jsand wrote:
    Agree, but it's 72 virgins! They wouldn't be blowing themselves up for a mere 17 virgins...


    You're right - 17 virgins would only be for "leaving" a bomb somewhere to explode - like the UK Subway bombers .....now I got it
    I'll keep taking punches
    Untill their will grows tired
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Pickr wrote:
    How many? More and more every day, located within the Middle East and North America, organize via modern day means (internet). goal? I don't quite understand what thier goal is.


    What is your guess as to the number today?

    So on the Internet they gather - share vision - and plan? Interesting.. I guess their numbers will help me understand this enemy.. how many?
  • Pickr
    Pickr Posts: 161
    Abuskedti wrote:
    What is your guess as to the number today?

    So on the Internet they gather - share vision - and plan? Interesting.. I guess their numbers will help me understand this enemy.. how many?

    Worldwide terrorist count? I don't think it's that easy to put a count on them. I mean they are being raised as we speak by propoganda, a lack of education, hate mongering. They are being bred to die as children. Men who were once ordinary citizens going about thier daily affairs are now dying for thier cause.

    I would not even be able to guess at a count. they don't really do a census for that kind of thing.
    Stix and Stones may break my bones, but More than Words will never hurt me.
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    You're right - 17 virgins would only be for "leaving" a bomb somewhere to explode - like the UK Subway bombers .....now I got it

    Yup. Leaving a bomb is such a cop-out. I mean, come on. Do you want to be a "martyr" or not. Even blowing yourself up accidentally without killing innocent civilians counts.
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    Pickr wrote:
    Worldwide terrorist count? I don't think it's that easy to put a count on them. I mean they are being raised as we speak by propoganda, a lack of education, hate mongering. They are being bred to die as children. Men who were once ordinary citizens going about thier daily affairs are now dying for thier cause.

    I would not even be able to guess at a count. they don't really do a census for that kind of thing.

    I don't think a census-taker will go knocking on some terrorist's door (or tent).
  • Pickr
    Pickr Posts: 161
    jsand wrote:
    I don't think a census-taker will go knocking on some terrorist's door (or tent).

    yeah, it was a joke...

    Be really really helpful if they did though!
    Stix and Stones may break my bones, but More than Words will never hurt me.
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    Pickr wrote:
    yeah, it was a joke...

    Be really really helpful if they did though!

    I know - I was joking too. The question of "how many are there" is ridiculous in itself.
  • We should be at war with our own government! Lieing fuckers!
    I'll be back
  • Pickr
    Pickr Posts: 161
    jsand wrote:
    I know - I was joking too. The question of "how many are there" is ridiculous in itself.


    I guess we could say there are enough to know that they aren't going to go away any time soon, enough to know they are organized, enough to know they are kicking the hell out of the US/allied forces and making fools of the US/allied gov'ts
    Stix and Stones may break my bones, but More than Words will never hurt me.
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    We should be at war with our own government! Lieing fuckers!

    Yeah. Let's do the job for the enemy. Genius!
  • darkcrow
    darkcrow Posts: 1,102
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    Taking a peaceful religion and re-creating it to settle some personal agenda-
    a sweet and lovely practice that involves blowing your head off and blowing the arms and legs off of a 3 year old child ....

    do you think the american air force bombers and israli soldiers got medels for that? its no 72 virgins.. but still....
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    Pickr wrote:
    I guess we could say there are enough to know that they aren't going to go away any time soon, enough to know they are organized, enough to know they are kicking the hell out of the US/allied forces and making fools of the US/allied gov'ts

    I wouldn't say they are "kicking the hell" out of the US and allied forces. The problem is that they "fight" like cowards and go after soft targets. This isn't a conventional war - the enemy is relentless and is not afraid to die, while the American citizenry and Europeans even moreso don't have the stomach to fight.
  • Pickr wrote:
    I guess we could say there are enough to know that they aren't going to go away any time soon, enough to know they are organized, enough to know they are kicking the hell out of the US/allied forces and making fools of the US/allied gov'ts

    OMG tell me you're kidding

    Kicking the hell out of US forces

    Do you even realize that the deaths of US soldiers in Iraq are predominately from Roadside bombs and carbombs exploding at check points?

    You are a dillusional man if you believe the shit you're shoveling
    I'll keep taking punches
    Untill their will grows tired
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Pickr wrote:
    Worldwide terrorist count? I don't think it's that easy to put a count on them. I mean they are being raised as we speak by propoganda, a lack of education, hate mongering. They are being bred to die as children. Men who were once ordinary citizens going about thier daily affairs are now dying for thier cause.

    I would not even be able to guess at a count. they don't really do a census for that kind of thing.

    I understand all that.. and agree.. However, if you believe there is a network of terrorists that are an enemy we are currently engaged in a war against - you have a feeling about how many there are.. is it 50-100? is it between 5 and 10 thousand.. is it approximately 100,000? is it a million?

    how many of these terrorists are opposing us in this war on terror?