People really believe we are not a racist nation

Abuskedti

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/20/lawmaker.koran/index.html

Ahnimus

I hear anti-Canadian sentiments from you American pigs all the time.

LeilaMoonTurtle

who believes we are not a racist nation?

Abuskedti wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/20/lawmaker.koran/index.html

jeffbr

So the lunatic writings of a single citizen = a racist nation? How does a racist nation vote for people of color? How did a muslim get elected to congress? How, in fact, is a "nation" racist?

sponger

implicit association

http://www.understandingprejudice.org/iat/

MCG

jeffbr wrote:

So the lunatic writings of a single citizen = a racist nation? How does a racist nation vote for people of color? How did a muslim get elected to congress? How, in fact, is a "nation" racist?

Similar to my thougts, this article only reflects the opions of that guy not the nation and I doubt he was elected to congress based on that platform.

sponger

Once I was waiting in line at the GAP and I overheard one of the cashiers say something to a co-worker after she had just rung up a family. The wife, husband, and two kids all looked to be fully aryian -white skin, blonde hair...etc. They were too far away for me to tell whether or not they had blue eyes.

The cashier said, "That's an all-american family." I don't know about anybody else, but I think that pretty much amounts to racism. It's not overt racism. She wasn't saying, "They are a credit to the fatherland." But, I think it's obvious to see that her vision of "America" was not the "melting pot" version.

I wouldn't be surprised if most white americans feel the same way. Maybe they don't hate people of non-white descent, but they probably deep down see them as almost like invaders or guests.

And, again, that's still racism. It's still whites vs. the non-whites, but on a more passive level. I would hate to have to work for someone like that -someone who thinks I'm not as american as the white guy. It would mean having to work that much harder than the white guy just to prove that I belong here. That's the racism that still exists in this country.

Jeanwah

sponger wrote:

Once I was waiting in line at the GAP and I overheard one of the cashiers say something to a co-worker after she had just rung up a family. The wife, husband, and two kids all looked to be fully aryian -white skin, blonde hair...etc. They were too far away for me to tell whether or not they had blue eyes.

The cashier said, "That's an all-american family." I don't know about anybody else, but I think that pretty much amounts to racism. It's not overt racism. She wasn't saying, "They are a credit to the fatherland." But, I think it's obvious to see that her vision of "America" was not the "melting pot" version.

I wouldn't be surprised if most white americans feel the same way. Maybe they don't hate people of non-white descent, but they probably deep down see them as almost like invaders or guests.

And, again, that's still racism. It's still whites vs. the non-whites, but on a more passive level. I would hate to have to work for someone like that -someone who thinks I'm not as american as the white guy. It would mean having to work that much harder than the white guy just to prove that I belong here. That's the racism that still exists in this country.

I work in custom media and stereotypically, blonde hair and blue eyes are considered "All-American". We shy away from putting too many people who fit that stereotype in our publications because we, as a publishing firm, need to show diversity, since they are sent to customers across the country. It's not racism, it's a stereotype.

know1

I believe there are racists in the U.S., but I do not believe we are a racist nation.

Abuskedti

know1 wrote:

I believe there are racists in the U.S., but I do not believe we are a racist nation.

Glen Beck still has a job

know1

Abuskedti wrote:

Glen Beck still has a job

So do you....I think...

What's your point?

mwachsman

Jeanwah wrote:

It's not racism, it's a stereotype.

Exactly, a lot of people don't even know what the word means.

Scratchin a Letter

Abuskedti wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/20/lawmaker.koran/index.html

Yet again, a religious conservative doesn't understand the concept multiculturalism. He 'fears' Muslims? What a prick. Personally I don't feel particularly passionate about the Qu'ran, but I don't about the bible either. Or The Sacred Parchement of the Stonecutters. Goode is a classic example of somebody who believes in segregation and supremacy. He is a Christian who looks up to God and the ten commandments, and everyone else should, therefore anyone else can fuck off. By holding these beliefs he is disrespecting the USA and everything it is supposed to stand for (freedom, justice etc)

No doubt there are many people like him. That doesn't necessarily make America a racist country. There are some intolerants, yes, but a few arseholes here and there doesn't mean that something's full of shit, does it?

Abuskedti

know1 wrote:

So do you....I think...

What's your point?

He went into peoples homes and asked a US Congressman, considering he was a Muslim - how could he be trusted....

yield2me

know1 wrote:

I believe there are racists in the U.S., but I do not believe we are a racist nation.

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You should get outside more often!

jeffbr

yield2me wrote:

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! You should get outside more often!

Are the people who are seeing racism everywhere projecting? Just wondering.

cincybearcat

jeffbr wrote:

Are the people who are seeing racism everywhere projecting? Just wondering.

I'm tired of people calling everyone racist. It's just stupid and accomplishes nothing.

But it's cool to sit back in your leather chair at your thousand dollar computer and write about the evils of the USA. What's cooler than that?

Being realistic instead of so theatrical would go a long way.

know1

Abuskedti wrote:

He went into peoples homes and asked a US Congressman, considering he was a Muslim - how could he be trusted....

Again......so?

What does that have to do with America being a racist nation? Do you often see one person do something and then project it onto millions of people? Perhaps you are the problem that you are calling out...

jeffbr

cincybearcat wrote:

I'm tired of people calling everyone racist. It's just stupid and accomplishes nothing.

But it's cool to sit back in your leather chair at your thousand dollar computer and write about the evils of the USA. What's cooler than that?

Being realistic instead of so theatrical would go a long way.

Totally agree. I'd love to see somebody answer my questions in a previous post in this thread about what makes a "nation" racist. I understand individuals being racist. I still don't get nations being racist, unless they have laws denying rights to people based on race, and I'm not aware of those existing here (outside of some poorly crafted affirmative action programs).

Abuskedti

jeffbr wrote:

Totally agree. I'd love to see somebody answer my questions in a previous post in this thread about what makes a "nation" racist. I understand individuals being racist. I still don't get nations being racist, unless they have laws denying rights to people based on race, and I'm not aware of those existing here (outside of some poorly crafted affirmative action programs).

we play political games by killing 600,000 Iraqis. We as a nation comfortably overlook that. If we killed 600,000 people that looked and acted like us - for example in England - the outrage would be massive..

That is a racist nation.

cincybearcat

Abuskedti wrote:

we play political games by killing 600,000 Iraqis. We as a nation comfortably overlook that. If we killed 600,000 people that looked and acted like us - for example in England - the outrage would be massive..

That is a racist nation.

You have to be kidding. You been drinking the Che Kool-aid again?