Iraq war, the worst foreign policy mistake un US History

Byrnzie

Last Exodus wrote:

I dont need your propaganda

This can be translated as "I can't dispute the above arguments so i will resort to personal attacks instead".

Byrnzie

Last Exodus wrote:

We have forgiven you Europeans for your centuries long brutal colonization of most of the world.

Does your use of the word 'World' here include the America's?

Byrnzie

Cosmo wrote:

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That's the tough part... where do we go from here?
But, just because we are where we are, doesn't mean we can't beat the fuck out of the asshole that got us here. And at what point do we figure out that listening to this asshole has gotten us deeper and deeper into the shit? When do we say, "ENOUGH! You've been consistantly wrong in the past, why should we believe you now?"
We can stabilize it with tons of troops going out on patrol and living in opolice stations outside of the Green Zone... but, for how long? If I was Muqtada al Sadr... I'd sit tight, knowing that the American HAVE to leave at some point... even if it's 10 years from now... time is on Al Sadr's side. We cannot stay there forever. When we do leave... he can come back in and begin his payback for all those death's under Hussein's watch.
It's tough... but, at some point, we may have to concede that it is a lost cause because the fact of the matter is.. the Shi'ites are in control, now... and it's going to be tough to keep them from eventually teaming up with their brothers in Iran.

I agree.

Byrnzie

Last Exodus wrote:

those were YOUR victories now? Not gonna go there...Were still friends and id like to keep it that way

9 out of every 10 German soldiers killed in WW2 were killed in Russia, so I'd say the odds are tipped in their favour. Still, many thanks for helping us in 1942 when 3/4's of the German army were occupied on the Eastern front.

Kann

Last Exodus wrote:

We have forgiven you Europeans for your centuries long brutal colonization of most of the world

I hope you did, it served us both well.

"So i guess you knew more than, say, Collin Powell did ya? People did the best they could with the information provided"

I remember when Powell said he would bring to the world undeniable truth of the presence of wmd's in Iraq. And a few days later we were all looking at a picture of a truck. I can't remember anyone believed in that.

Byrnzie

catefrances wrote:

what it means is that the japanese were never going to win fighting the war the way they were.

America was just two aircraft carriers away from being completely crushed at Pearl Harbour. Fortune was on your side on that day.
Anyway, back to topic.

Byrnzie

Last Exodus wrote:

No one is a threat to you all the way down there except the bloody kangaroos. Actually, you guys were very close to invasion in 1941-42. Our navy made sure you were spared.

If i'm not mistaken the Japanese did land on the Northern parts of Australia, or at least some of the islands up there. And lets not forget the part the Aussies played in the war in the Pacific, or the Brits for that matter.

Byrnzie

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

I'm not pissing in anyone's pocket. You're just a prime example of someone who takes pot shots whenever possible at any American setback in foreign policy, in your own opinion, and drives it into the ground. Likewise, anytime there's a victory around the globe you do your best to minimize American impact on the conflict. All the while crying wolf and playing the arrogance card when someone calls you out on it.

Iraq = a setback in American foriegn policy. Is your name Henry Kissinger? Or Dr Strangelove?

catefrances

Byrnzie wrote:

If i'm not mistaken the Japanese did land on the Northern parts of Australia, of at least some of the islands up there. And lets not forget the part the Aussies played in the war in the Pacific, or the Brits for that matter.

the japanese bombed darwin and northern queensland. midget subs entered sydney harbour targetting the USS chicago that was in town at the time. australians fought the japanese basically hand to hand in new guinea, so they didn't make the next leap across to the mainland. the japanese didn't manage to land in australian and for that we can thank the tenacity of the australian soldiers and their fuzzy wuzzy angels in the people of new guinea. and yes we can also thank the united states navy bigtime.

Abuskedti

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