2078 died in Iraq in March
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So i can legitimatly call George W. Bush a lier, since he's still saying to everyone who want to hear it, that things are getting better in this conflict.
It means 67 peoples are being killed, each day, despite heavy security measure.
It means 67 peoples are being killed, each day, despite heavy security measure.
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
i think they are war related deaths chief, nice try
how many would die if we werent there? they are killing each other, we are trying to defend people and train an army.
you want to blame us for starting this mess fine, but the above fact remains the same
Be a proud Americans, and show us those numbers, please. I knew someone would bring that up. I guess you also compare your current life quality to Iraqui who have to go through military (and probably milice) checkpoint to go buy their vegetables at the grocery store. Go ahead and bring up those numbers, i'd be curious to see how you can "justify" people dying in a country by saying there's more peoples dying in the other country. Also make your point by bringing stats and percentage of people being killed versus population, ratios and this kind of stuffs, since you want to bring that up...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
I don't know, prove me there was more deaths before USA invasions. It's an easy concept, overthrow a government, and you're in for years of anarchy. But the USA govt. didn't think that way, it was the "with us or against us" policy going on at the time, no plans for the aftermath, it's like nobody in the war room asked "what will we do once we find those WMD's" (of course then the reasons change according to the trend of the moment).
Today we can all admit that it is a huge mistake just by the results, and i still believe and hope that George W. Bush will someday have to answer these crimes in front of a court. Now don't be short by saying George Bush didn't killed anybody and it is the insurgent blablabla. Milosevic probably never killed anyone too, and the insurgency wouldn't exist without a USA war in this country.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
That is all true. We are keeping the killing steady for more than 4 years.
We have picked one side, and that side can not possibly win.
Yet we refuse to talk to any of the other groups - or even to Americans.
How many years can this last?
I am against the troop withdrawal.. I think that would be ignorant. We have to stay - and provide security. We have work will all sides on an acceptable solution - then we need to enforce it.. part of the negotiation will include help with enforcement
I'm starting to believe that troop withdrawal would be a mistake, but i think the mission should change, take it out of USA citizens shoulders (only one supporting this war now) and share the responsabilities with other nations under a UN or NATO banner, i know many peoples hate UN or NATO for some reasons, and i also can see the criticism towards them. But the USA alone won't solve Iraq, stay there 10 years and it will still be the same. Change is due, trying another strategy is way overdue.
Sad thing is we'll have to wait till George W. Bush is out of office to see a change.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
I'm not justifying anything - just asking a question. How about you compare your life quality to theirs?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
The US stepped into a huge pile of shit. the terrorists can do whatever, they have all the time in the world to watch, and wait, and react.
What a farce...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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oh, chirst here we go, devil's advocate talking in circles...
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....
are you serious? saddam did kill hundreds of thousands of people?
You're asking a question, and i'm asking you to bring the answer, since you want to compare the U.S. and Iraq death toll. Go ahead and bring up those numbers, i won't dig them up for you, cause i think it's a useless argument.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Sure he did, and he faced a trial, and was sentenced to death. Things haven't changed for the best for Iraquis, and Iraq now is way more dangerous for the USA than it was when Saddam was controlling everything.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
It is a useless argument....just like the original argument in this thread is useless if you do not know how many would have been killed in March without the U.S. presence.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
oh hmmmm, now i'm talking about the present, the reality, and you say it's pointless cause i don't know the "if", you're right, i don't know the "if", then we shouldn't talk about the Iraq war at all, you're right, let's talk about a pet food recall, or let's talk about a dead celebrity burial location... way more interesting isn't it?
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
From terrorist attacks? Or from a fellow Yank?
No - let's just demand the end to the occupation and not throw out statistics that do not mean anything.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
here's what I do know...the 3000 plus US soldiers killed would not have been killed...the thousands injured would not have been injured...and car bombs did not go off on a daily basis....
Dunno. How many Iraqi's were killed by terrorist attacks....or by Americans?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
what do you care...? Mr. "not throw out statistics that do not mean anything"...
Actually, you do not know that every one of them might not have been killed or injured by other means.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
how do you know that I don't know....?
I care about the war, not about useless arguments.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I don't know
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
yet you continue to put forward useless arguments...interesting, indeed...
Was Vietnam simply unpleasant?
Often people need to see the deaths before they'll make the demand.
you seem to...