So much for the cons bein for the draft..

binauralsounds

Ahh the dems hit the ground running. PUSH FOR DRAFT!!!!!!!

Rep. Rangel Will Seek to Reinstate Draft

WASHINGTON -- Americans would have to sign up for a new military draft after turning 18 if the incoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee has his way.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/19/AR2006111900376_pf.html

Scratchin a Letter

binauralsounds wrote:

Ahh the dems hit the ground running. PUSH FOR DRAFT!!!!!!!

Rep. Rangel Will Seek to Reinstate Draft

WASHINGTON -- Americans would have to sign up for a new military draft after turning 18 if the incoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee has his way.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/19/AR2006111900376_pf.html

This would encourage the US to act with a litle more responsibility. It would make it very hard for them as a country to blag wars, particularly when the forces are involuntary.

sapperskunk

He tried doing this in 01 or 03 too.

Isn't it interesting how lately people associate a military draft with republicans. But in reality the only person you hear mention it is a Liberal.

sapperskunk

Scratchin a Letter wrote:

This would encourage the US to act with a litle more responsibility. It would make it very hard for them as a country to blag wars, particularly when the forces are involuntary.

So as a Democrat, you're in favor of a military draft?

Vedderlution_Baby

So that's one dem for the draft...but that equals the whole party? I don't judge all the cons off of rush.

flywallyfly

I'm all for a draft. If Iraq is so important then i think every male up to age 40 should have to go over there. If it is not important enough for a draft then let's get the hell outta there.

sapperskunk

This is seriously some fucked up logic. So instead of having an all volunteer military fighting an unpopular war, we'll have a bunch of draftees fighting an unpopular war. Good luck Rangel. And to everybody else, have fun in the sandbox, cause aint shit gonna change.

Scratchin a Letter

sapperskunk wrote:

So as a Democrat, you're in favor of a military draft?

I'm not a democrat, I'm not even American. I'm just a spectator. I don't see what the draft has to do with either political party. But if a country feels the need to wage such conflicts, they should do it the hard way, rather than with troops they can exploit under the excuse that it was their choice.

sapperskunk

Scratchin a Letter wrote:

I'm not a democrat, I'm not even American. I'm just a spectator. I don't see what the draft has to do with either political party. But if a country feels the need to wage such conflicts, they should do it the hard way, rather than with troops they can exploit under the excuse that it was their choice.

Sorry about that, I assumed you leaned to the left due to your Eddie Vedder quote about killing President Bush? But I guess I was reaching huh?

Maybe I'm crazy, but this logic sounds ridiculous. Don't you get it? Nothing will change, We'll just have new guys dying who tacitly consented just by being born here in the US.

Where are you from and does your country of origin currently have a military draft?

jeffbr

Scratchin a Letter wrote:

I'm not a democrat, I'm not even American. I'm just a spectator. I don't see what the draft has to do with either political party. But if a country feels the need to wage such conflicts, they should do it the hard way, rather than with troops they can exploit under the excuse that it was their choice.

It sounds like you are unfamiliar with concepts like choice and free will. I feel bad about that.

The draft is absolutely political. The military doesn't want it. The administration doesn't want it. Anyone who wants to be re-elected will vote against it.

Rangel is only doing this to make a point. He's done the same thing a couple of other times, and each time foreigners seem to misunderstand the move. The US isn't about to reinstate the draft, and anyone who things so is extremely naive.

soulsinging

1. you have to register for a draft at 18 already anyway. it's called the selectve service.

2. this guy's been doing this for years. he does it as a stunt to get people to think long and hard about whether or not they support war in iraq enough to consider having to go themselves, or send their children over there. it's very easy to say "im for the war" when neither you nor anyone you know has their ass on the line.

cincybearcat

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

So that's one dem for the draft...but that equals the whole party? I don't judge all the cons off of rush.

Since rush isn't a congress person, that's good.

Can you tell the difference between a congress person and a talk show host?

Vedderlution_Baby

cincybearcat wrote:

Since rush isn't a congress person, that's good.

Can you tell the difference between a congress person and a talk show host?

Sure. One's full of shit and....wait...no that's not right.

kenny olav

It's old news that Rangel supports the draft. Apparently it's only been dragged out again now that the Dems are in power. But there's no way in hell Congress will restore the draft. Just another non-story.

ThumbingMyWay32

Charlie Rangel is one of the greatest U.S. Congressmen of our time.

jlew24asu

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

So that's one dem for the draft...but that equals the whole party? I don't judge all the cons off of rush.

well I would hope not. rush is just some guy with an opinon. he doesnt vote on laws or help draft them. who gives a fuck what the guy has to say. he's not an elected offical. I think you knew that right?

ThumbingMyWay32

Rush is the Messiah. Allah, if you will.

jeffbr

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Charlie Rangel is one of the greatest U.S. Congressmen of our time.

As far as entertainment value goes you may be right.

ThumbingMyWay32

jeffbr wrote:

As far as entertainment value goes you may be right.

Reagan was a great entertainer.

sponger

Scratchin a Letter wrote:

they should do it the hard way, rather than with troops they can exploit under the excuse that it was their choice.

I couldn't agree with that more. We have guys going in there for their 2nd or 3rd tours because nobody else wants to do it. At least in Vietnam it was one tour and you get to go home. Haven't the Generals been saying that we don't have enough people in there? I hate to see anyone get shipped off to war, but that is the price we pay when we start wars that should never have began.

ThumbingMyWay32

sponger wrote:

I couldn't agree with that more. We have guys going in there for their 2nd or 3rd tours because nobody else wants to do it. At least in Vietnam it was one tour and you get to go home. Haven't the Generals been saying that we don't have enough people in there? I hate to see anyone get shipped off to war, but that is the price we pay when we start wars that should never have began.

Great point considering the fact that not one soldier re-enlisted in Vietnam.