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WASHINGTON (AFP) – George W. Bush hopes history will see him as a president who liberated millions of Iraqis and Afghans, who worked towards peace and who never sold his soul for political ends.

"I'd like to be a president (known) as somebody who liberated 50 million people and helped achieve peace," Bush said in excerpts of a recent interview released by the White House Friday.

"I would like to be a person remembered as a person who, first and foremost, did not sell his soul in order to accommodate the political process. I came to Washington with a set of values, and I'm leaving with the same set of values."

He also said he wanted to be seen as a president who helped individuals, "that rallied people to serve their neighbor; that led an effort to help relieve HIV/AIDS and malaria on places like the continent of Africa; that helped elderly people get prescription drugs and Medicare as a part of the basic package."

Bush added that every day during his eight-year presidency he had consulted the Bible and drawn comfort from his faith.

The interview, which Bush recorded with First Lady Laura Bush, will be stored in the library of Congress and a museum devoted to the Bush presidency

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081128/pl_afp/uspoliticshistorybush
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    I'm sure Hitler wanted to be remembered in a similar sense.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MrBrian wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AFP) – George W. Bush hopes history will see him as a president who liberated millions of Iraqis and Afghans...

    "I'd like to be a president (known) as somebody who liberated 50 million people


    Sure he liberated millions of people. He liberated them from life.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Sure he liberated millions of people. He liberated them from life.

    Not to mention the million or so that lost their lives because of HIS lies.

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  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    Initially I thought this came from The Onion, then I realised the article was serious.
  • Dylan StoneDylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    George Bush is no Simon Bolivar.


    what a fucking sad, sad joke. . .
  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Sure he liberated millions of people. He liberated them from life.

    No better way of putting it.

    He's just having a little joke with us.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • unifiedsceneunifiedscene Posts: 462
    The sad thing is, I think he truly believes there is nothing amiss about those comments. That's been the real tragedy of the Bush admin... he's so out of touch with reality he doesn't even realize how absurd and incongruent his actions have been.

    Helped combat AIDS? He refused to fund anything that gave contraception over there... only abstinence programs. What a sick fucking joke.
    she was underwhelmed, if that's a word
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    unifiedscene wrote:
    The sad thing is, I think he truly believes there is nothing amiss about those comments.
    I agree.

    And for me, I can see what he means.....if we can remember that the ego is very tricky...we believe the stuff it tells us about who we are--our justifications for the horrible things that we do.

    We all fall into this trap. It's the same ego, though, that prevents us from realizing when WE do it...........
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    unifiedscene wrote:
    The sad thing is, I think he truly believes there is nothing amiss about those comments. That's been the real tragedy of the Bush admin... he's so out of touch with reality he doesn't even realize how absurd and incongruent his actions have been.
    I hate it when people say that. He knows exactly what the fuck he's doing, quit acting like he's 'out of touch with reality'.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    angelica wrote:
    I agree.

    And for me, I can see what he means.....if we can remember that the ego is very tricky...we believe the stuff it tells us about who we are--our justifications for the horrible things that we do.

    We all fall into this trap. It's the same ego, though, that prevents us from realizing when WE do it...........
    its called cognitive dissonance
  • prytojprytoj Posts: 536
    _outlaw wrote:
    I hate it when people say that. He knows exactly what the fuck he's doing, quit acting like he's 'out of touch with reality'.

    word.

    Although calling him Hitler is kind of an apples/oranges comparison in my view.

    Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II have been crucial to the destruction of this nation. History will have the final say on that.

    But most regular folks enjoy their ignorance, very frustrating.
  • unifiedsceneunifiedscene Posts: 462
    _outlaw wrote:
    I hate it when people say that. He knows exactly what the fuck he's doing, quit acting like he's 'out of touch with reality'.

    Nothing "acting" about it. I think Dick Cheney knows exactly what he's doing, as did Rumsfeld. I think they also knew they had the perfect puppet in Dubya... a man so delusional and simple-minded that he could help sell unconscionable actions to the American public with his dim-witted, down-home hokum.

    I think Bush is a true believer, and truly believes he has been some force for good in the world. It's the men behind him that know exactly what he's doing and don't care.
    she was underwhelmed, if that's a word
  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    unifiedscene wrote:
    Nothing "acting" about it. I think Dick Cheney knows exactly what he's doing, as did Rumsfeld. I think they also knew they had the perfect puppet in Dubya... a man so delusional and simple-minded that he could help sell unconscionable actions to the American public with his dim-witted, down-home hokum.

    I think Bush is a true believer, and truly believes he has been some force for good in the world. It's the men behind him that know exactly what he's doing and don't care.

    I definatley agree with you. Bush is a puppet to a group of people who don't have the American public's best interest at heart. They want to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. It's been a long 8 years and I'm ready to turn over a new leaf.
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    unifiedscene wrote:
    Nothing "acting" about it. I think Dick Cheney knows exactly what he's doing, as did Rumsfeld. I think they also knew they had the perfect puppet in Dubya... a man so delusional and simple-minded that he could help sell unconscionable actions to the American public with his dim-witted, down-home hokum.

    I think Bush is a true believer, and truly believes he has been some force for good in the world. It's the men behind him that know exactly what he's doing and don't care.
    Him being a puppet doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's truly doing. Bush isn't as stupid as you guys think he is.
  • NYbenbenNYbenben Posts: 1,020
    being that he will go down as THE WORST US President in history, he needs to spin his legacy in some way that he feels may be perceived as positive....

    what an ass... good riddance...
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    _outlaw wrote:
    Him being a puppet doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's truly doing. Bush isn't as stupid as you guys think he is.

    Yes, he is! And you just admitted he is a puppet which tells me he doesn't have the integrity or ingenuity to think for himself. Oh, and to top it off he's the leader of the free world. Scary.
    He who forgets will be destined to remember.

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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    _outlaw wrote:
    Him being a puppet doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's truly doing. Bush isn't as stupid as you guys think he is.
    I agree that he's not stupid. And he's entirely 100% responsible for what he's chosen.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    cropduster82 wrote:
    Yes, he is! And you just admitted he is a puppet which tells me he doesn't have the integrity or ingenuity to think for himself. Oh, and to top it off he's the leader of the free world. Scary.

    Bush most certainly has the integrity to think and act for himself, he does it all the time, it's called looking out for #1...himself.
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  • unifiedsceneunifiedscene Posts: 462
    _outlaw wrote:
    Him being a puppet doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's truly doing. Bush isn't as stupid as you guys think he is.

    I don't think he's stupid per se. But I do think he does not truly understand the implications of his actions upon the world. I think he truly believes that what he has been doing makes the world a better place because it is God's plan. That is why he's been so effective and managed to get reelected... he has that true believer quality that made people believe in him against their own interests and better judgment.
    she was underwhelmed, if that's a word
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    unifiedscene wrote:
    I don't think he's stupid per se. But I do think he does not truly understand the implications of his actions upon the world. I think he truly believes that what he has been doing makes the world a better place because it is God's plan. That is why he's been so effective and managed to get reelected... he has that true believer quality that made people believe in him against their own interests and better judgment.
    again I agree
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  • Sweet EmotionSweet Emotion Posts: 100
    unifiedscene wrote:
    I don't think he's stupid per se. But I do think he does not truly understand the implications of his actions upon the world. I think he truly believes that what he has been doing makes the world a better place because it is God's plan. That is why he's been so effective and managed to get reelected... he has that true believer quality that made people believe in him against their own interests and better judgment.

    George Bush is a damned fool and criminally so. He found god at an AA meeting and still doesn't grasp what exactly the role of religion ought to be in one's life. What does it say that he's only ever been a dry drunk and that he's been drinking again for years.
    He manipulated the zealots with his bullshit Compassionate Conservative nonsense. He was neither. His motivations had nothing to do with America,
    except for the access to the military and the treasury- both of which he's devastated. He's a piece of shit human being.
    I'm not who you think i am....
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    _outlaw wrote:
    I hate it when people say that. He knows exactly what the fuck he's doing, quit acting like he's 'out of touch with reality'.
    bushie wrote:
    Bush added that every day during his eight-year presidency he had consulted the Bible and drawn comfort from his faith.

    Someone who uses any book of mythology to guide their daily lives and destroy a nation is out of touch. I don't care what mythological stories you believe in, don't use them to guide a nation.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    unifiedscene wrote:
    I don't think he's stupid per se. But I do think he does not truly understand the implications of his actions upon the world. I think he truly believes that what he has been doing makes the world a better place because it is God's plan. That is why he's been so effective and managed to get reelected... he has that true believer quality that made people believe in him against their own interests and better judgment.

    Yes through a stolen and computer manipulated election in 2004.

    Peace
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    jeffbr wrote:
    Someone who uses any book of mythology to guide their daily lives and destroy a nation is out of touch. I don't care what mythological stories you believe in, don't use them to guide a nation.
    everyone uses their own personal mythology to guide them through each day. The thing is they all think it's "real".
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • unifiedsceneunifiedscene Posts: 462
    g under p wrote:
    Yes through a stolen and computer manipulated election in 2004.

    Peace

    Maybe. But even so, he's one of the worst we've ever had... it shouldn't even have been close enough to steal.
    she was underwhelmed, if that's a word
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    unifiedscene wrote:
    Nothing "acting" about it. I think Dick Cheney knows exactly what he's doing, as did Rumsfeld. I think they also knew they had the perfect puppet in Dubya... a man so delusional and simple-minded that he could help sell unconscionable actions to the American public with his dim-witted, down-home hokum.

    I think Bush is a true believer, and truly believes he has been some force for good in the world. It's the men behind him that know exactly what he's doing and don't care.

    Well said.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    _outlaw wrote:
    Him being a puppet doesn't mean he doesn't know what he's truly doing. Bush isn't as stupid as you guys think he is.

    I disagree. I think he really is as stupid as I think he is. He's a patsy...a dupe.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    unifiedscene wrote:
    Nothing "acting" about it. I think Dick Cheney knows exactly what he's doing, as did Rumsfeld. I think they also knew they had the perfect puppet in Dubya... a man so delusional and simple-minded that he could help sell unconscionable actions to the American public with his dim-witted, down-home hokum.

    I think Bush is a true believer, and truly believes he has been some force for good in the world. It's the men behind him that know exactly what he's doing and don't care.

    True and in believing this he truly feels he's done no wrong. I don't even think terribly bad about our economic situation well atleast he won't have to deal with solving this nightmare.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    His legacy is completely linked to 9/11 and Iraq/Afghanistan. I do think he will be remembered as handling 9/11 relatively well. But, overreacting afterwards. If Iraq/Afghanistan are vibrant democracies in 10/15 years (i.e. Germany/Japan), his legacy will be positive. That said, I think the chances of that occurring are very small. Therefore, I don't think he will have a positive legacy. But, it's more wait and see with him then any president in recent memory due to what occurred during his tenure.
  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    saveuplife wrote:
    His legacy is completely linked to 9/11 and Iraq/Afghanistan. I do think he will be remembered as handling 9/11 relatively well. But, overreacting afterwards.
    That's a big understatement.
    If Iraq/Afghanistan are vibrant democracies in 10/15 years (i.e. Germany/Japan), his legacy will be positive. That said, I think the chances of that occurring are very small. Therefore, I don't think he will have a positive legacy. But, it's more wait and see with him then any president in recent memory due to what occurred during his tenure.
    Whatever Iraq/Afghanistan become, I don't think anyone will forget in 10/15 years the hundreds of thousands of deaths and fleeing populations. 60 years ago we didn't have mass media, or internet to document exactions like it's done today.
    I think the more time passes, the worse his record will get. And everyone will remember W as the stereotype of what a president shouldn't be.
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