I guess that says something about the markup on thier goods considering that they are able to still employ people and still stock shelves with all that shrink.
Speaking about markup on goods. I've been to the Ralph Lauren (Chaps),Lee clothing,Timberland and Champion factories In Pakistan (back in the mid/late 90's)
It's amazing that they made shirts for a few dollars cost and they retail for 50,100 dollars or more in the west.
The conditions btw the workers worked in were not as bad as I thought they would be, then I saw the Nike Factory. Since then I dont really buy anything from them. Even if they have changed the standards.
I of course took pictures of it all back then, I think my brother has those photos now. I'm gonna try and see if he can email or send me them so I can post them here. I'm sure everyone would find them pretty interesting.
If anything happened to him when he went after the guy, the store would be liable and would end up losing a LOT more money than what those sunglasses cost. Even if a hundred pairs of sunglasses were stolen, something happening just one time would be devastating to the store. It's just better business to let them go and hope you got them on camera.
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When I managed a store in Az a few years back( still had some latitude then)-the theft was unreal. I always let my good customers return/exchange-even when they had abused a tool beyond its warranty.
Wouldn't you know those same customers began frequently apprehending thieves for me( where we were not supposed to go after them outside the store,btw policy was ambiguous to let corporate decide by situation).
Now, if I dropped by on a day off, and saw someone leaving..which did happen..well I chased them down and recovered the merchandise...I know you never know who is armed and all. Worst was a knife pulled on me-and he got a thrashing for that. I still feel bad that some were despararate enough to steal from us, but had offered meals, cash to a few I caught-no takers.
I think the customers helped reduce the theft the most-changed the envirionment. I guess it pissed me off a lot that some stole from the store and thereby my employees who worked their asses off for I think very little.
At the time I was making decent $,and tried to help where I thought I could.
I was at the Store 'The sunglass Hut', checking out some shades and this guy walks in, picks up a pair of sunglasses and just starts to walk out.
I ask the sales person "Did he just take that?" His reply "yes"...I asked him if he was going to go after him and he said "no"...I say "ummm should i go get him?"
Then he tells me "dont worry, our corporate policy is not to go after people who steal things from the store"
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Does that make sense to anyone?
I mean maybe they think it's too much trouble and takes too much time to run after someone or call the cops, but really?...Just let them go?
I didnt take the time to read every post but you'd be suprised that most stores have a policy like this. Best Buys, Targets etc... either have a do not touch the guy policy or only security guards can take action... its to prevent some lawsuits I believe, like if some cashier tried to tackle a guy outside and he got hurt or something... no 100% sure tho
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The store I used to work at had a similar policy. They also said that in order to procecute anybody for shoplifting they needed photographic evidence of the person entering the store, picking the merch, and leaving the store. If they didn't have any one of the 3, they wouldn't/couldn't do anythign about it.
I worked a Burlington Coat factory for a few months in my late teen years. We had a store manager that would follow around any black person that came into the store to make sure they didn't steal.
Although 9 out of 10 times they were stealing piles of down jackets and running people over like they were Christian Okoye.
One of my buddies used to be head of security at Sears and he said that they couldn't stop people after they left the store, part of their policy.
When I worked at KMart in the 90's, their policy was that you couldn't accuse anyone of shoplifting (even if they were pocketing items) unless they actually left the store without paying for them.
If anything happened to him when he went after the guy, the store would be liable and would end up losing a LOT more money than what those sunglasses cost. Even if a hundred pairs of sunglasses were stolen, something happening just one time would be devastating to the store. It's just better business to let them go and hope you got them on camera.
This is the real reason for the policy most businesses have about not going after thieves. It's also why they tell cashiers to just hand over the money to anyone that tries to hold them up. Even a drawer full of cash is less of a loss than what they would have to pay out for a liability suit from an injured worker.
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Speaking about markup on goods. I've been to the Ralph Lauren (Chaps),Lee clothing,Timberland and Champion factories In Pakistan (back in the mid/late 90's)
It's amazing that they made shirts for a few dollars cost and they retail for 50,100 dollars or more in the west.
The conditions btw the workers worked in were not as bad as I thought they would be, then I saw the Nike Factory. Since then I dont really buy anything from them. Even if they have changed the standards.
I of course took pictures of it all back then, I think my brother has those photos now. I'm gonna try and see if he can email or send me them so I can post them here. I'm sure everyone would find them pretty interesting.
10-8-00 Alpine Valley
10-9-00 All State Arena, Chicago
4-23-03 Assembly Hall, Champaign
5-16-06 United Center, Chicago
6-30-06 Marcus Amphitheater, Milwaukee
8-05-07 Grant Park, Chicago
8-21-08 EV, Auditorium Theater, Chicago
8-22-08 EV, Auditorium Theater, Chicago
Wouldn't you know those same customers began frequently apprehending thieves for me( where we were not supposed to go after them outside the store,btw policy was ambiguous to let corporate decide by situation).
Now, if I dropped by on a day off, and saw someone leaving..which did happen..well I chased them down and recovered the merchandise...I know you never know who is armed and all. Worst was a knife pulled on me-and he got a thrashing for that. I still feel bad that some were despararate enough to steal from us, but had offered meals, cash to a few I caught-no takers.
I think the customers helped reduce the theft the most-changed the envirionment. I guess it pissed me off a lot that some stole from the store and thereby my employees who worked their asses off for I think very little.
At the time I was making decent $,and tried to help where I thought I could.
I didnt take the time to read every post but you'd be suprised that most stores have a policy like this. Best Buys, Targets etc... either have a do not touch the guy policy or only security guards can take action... its to prevent some lawsuits I believe, like if some cashier tried to tackle a guy outside and he got hurt or something... no 100% sure tho
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Although 9 out of 10 times they were stealing piles of down jackets and running people over like they were Christian Okoye.
Then people who actually paid for items would get shocked when the chip attached or packaged with the item isn't deactivated correctly.
When I worked at KMart in the 90's, their policy was that you couldn't accuse anyone of shoplifting (even if they were pocketing items) unless they actually left the store without paying for them.
This is the real reason for the policy most businesses have about not going after thieves. It's also why they tell cashiers to just hand over the money to anyone that tries to hold them up. Even a drawer full of cash is less of a loss than what they would have to pay out for a liability suit from an injured worker.