So Obama will seek council from Powell

MrBrian

So now he was just a messenger? So what does it matter if he's so highly respect (based on views and actions) He's just saying what someone else wants.

But here, think of this. You are at a car dealership, the sales guy gives you this pitch, 'this car get's 50mpg, it's the best car ever!, you must buy it'

So you buy the car, after a few day's you see that the car get's 10 mpg, it's not the best car ever and whatever else. Now do you blame the car sales persosn? I mean he did not build the car like powell did not write his speech, so no blame goes to the person selling the car to you? He was just doing his job, selling bullshit to you.

Now you see, I would blame the sales person, I would also blame the company (or government)

I would lose respect for the sales person, would you not?

Powell used his respect, Powell used the trust people had in him to sell the American people a poorly built American car. One that was bound to break down.

pateljam

MrBrian wrote:

So now he was just a messenger? So what does it matter if he's so highly respect (based on views and actions) He's just saying what someone else wants.

But here, think of this. You are at a car dealership, the sales guy gives you this pitch, 'this car get's 50mpg, it's the best car ever!, you must buy it'

So you buy the car, after a few day's you see that the car get's 10 mpg, it's not the best car ever and whatever else. Now do you blame the car sales persosn? I mean he did not build the car like powell did not write his speech, so no blame goes to the person selling the car to you? He was just doing his job, selling bullshit to you.

Now you see, I would blame the sales person, I would also blame the company (or government)

I would lose respect for the sales person, would you not?

Powell used his respect, Powell used the trust people had in him to sell the American people a poorly built American car. One that was bound to break down.

Yes and I as I have said on other posts. Why hasn't Powell stood up and said he was lied to. Who the hell is he protecting. It seems that now Obama has the prefect fall guy to sell a bullshit war in Iran to the world now...

cincybearcat

MrBrian wrote:

Obama said that he will seek council from Colin Powell if he (Obama) is elected President.

Of course this comes after Powell sadi that he backs Obama.

This is a bit strange right? The man of Change will look towards the man who sold the American people on the Iraq war for advice.

That's good to know,

I think you're selling Powell short. I think he has changed some due to his expereinces. I think he's a good choice to seek counsel from.

pateljam

cincybearcat wrote:

I think you're selling Powell short. I think he has changed some due to his expereinces. I think he's a good choice to seek counsel from.

Yeah I guess the death of over 4000 soliders will change a person...
Sorry its a little too late. He should have stood up a long time ago... He might have saved lives...

TDMize15

MrBrian wrote:

So now he was just a messenger? So what does it matter if he's so highly respect (based on views and actions) He's just saying what someone else wants.

But here, think of this. You are at a car dealership, the sales guy gives you this pitch, 'this car get's 50mpg, it's the best car ever!, you must buy it'

So you buy the car, after a few day's you see that the car get's 10 mpg, it's not the best car ever and whatever else. Now do you blame the car sales persosn? I mean he did not build the car like powell did not write his speech, so no blame goes to the person selling the car to you? He was just doing his job, selling bullshit to you.

Now you see, I would blame the sales person, I would also blame the company (or government)

I would lose respect for the sales person, would you not?

Powell used his respect, Powell used the trust people had in him to sell the American people a poorly built American car. One that was bound to break down.

If the salesperson had evidence and proof from the car company and Car and Driver and the management that the car got 50 mpg... then this analogy would work.

Powell thought what he was saying was truth... when the CIA and the president give you information, you assume it's the truth.

fugawzi

YES he was a messenger, why is that so hard to understand? You start to lose a little credibility when you compare the lies we were told about Iraq to a car dealer lying about MPG. Lies that Colin Powell did not create but rather were created by the CIA, Cheney's office and others. I guess that's too hard for some to comprehend. Apparently some think Powell was in the CIA. They aren't aware he worked in the State Dept.

His credibility is very relevant. That's why he was selected to read the speech. Why didn't our ambassador to the U.N. read the speech? Why didn't the president or vice pres or secretary of defense or national security adviser read the speech? They knew Powell was the right choice because of his support by the people. They used him, he didn't allow himself to be used. Had he written the speech, and created the lies I would be agreeing with you but he didn't. I guess he should have rubbed his crystal ball and not read the speech because he somehow knew they were lies even though the CIA director assured him everything was accurate. I said I wasn't gonna say anymore on this subject but I can't help it even though it's useless some people will believe what they want to believe despite the FACTS.