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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    JSBE wrote:
    i think the "issue" is that it was a fundraiser with streisand, leo dicaprio, will ferrell, chris rock, etc in the crowd. whatever with me, it helped obama raise $11 million bucks.

    weird that mccain's fundraisers don't get press like this. i guess corporate lobbyists aren't all that newsworthy.

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/02/544600.aspx

    or pharmaceutical lobbyists for that matter...
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    jimed14 wrote:
    but the issue is they are both running for president at the same point in time ... pointing out mccain's weatlh when he was younger doesn't make sense ... he's running for president NOW ...

    remember, McCain even said during the service debate on 9/11 that's he's divorced from the day to day issues with everyday Americans.

    of course McCain is divorced from the day to day issues so is Obama. all polticians are. do you think any person in washigton knows what is happenning with the common folk.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Thecure wrote:
    of course McCain is divorced from the day to day issues so is Obama. all polticians are. do you think any person in washigton knows what is happenning with the common folk.

    funny you say that ... that you know "questionable experience" as a community organizer the republicans claimed for Obama ... yeah, I'd say Obama does have a good idea on what the common folk go through ..

    Republicnas can't have it both ways ...

    They can't say Obama doesn't have enough experience because he's only been in the Senate for 4 years, but on the other hand, say, he's a Washington insider and is out of touch with every day Americans ....
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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    MrBrian wrote:
    Exactly it doesn't really matter, but I need to just quickly point out that a few news reports on Obama talked about himself building a home worth around a million dollars. But if it's true or not, again, that does not matter.

    BTW McCain invented the blackberry, as in the cell phone. lmao!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/16/mccain-helped-invent-the_n_126785.html

    it is sad that the huffington post is wasting paper on this. but i guess there are not important things to write about. my god people it was a joke. it funny how people don't know what is a joke anymore.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    jimed14 wrote:
    funny you say that ... that you know "questionable experience" as a community organizer the republicans claimed for Obama ... yeah, I'd say Obama does have a good idea on what the common folk go through ..

    Republicnas can't have it both ways ...

    They can't say Obama doesn't have enough experience because he's only been in the Senate for 4 years, but on the other hand, say, he's a Washington insider and is out of touch with every day Americans ....

    yoru right things have not changed in the how many years has Obama not been a commuinity organizer :) i didn't slam Obama for being a community organizer as i am a social worker and i think that it is important work. i am not calling Obama a washington insider but i am saying that obama in his day to day job as a senator does not deal directly deal with the people day to day lives just like McCain. Obama and McCain can say that while they cross teh country they hear people issues but that does not mean that they know what teh common people lives are like.

    i am not just slamming Obama, i just think that this idea about knowing people is a joke.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Thecure wrote:
    yoru right things have not changed in the how many years has Obama not been a commuinity organizer :) i didn't slam Obama for being a community organizer as i am a social worker and i think that it is important work. i am not calling Obama a washington insider but i am saying that obama in his day to day job as a senator does not deal directly deal with the people day to day lives just like McCain. Obama and McCain can say that while they cross teh country they hear people issues but that does not mean that they know what teh common people lives are like.

    i am not just slamming Obama, i just think that this idea about knowing people is a joke.

    I think if you look at their histories ... Obama comes from a place wher ehe does understand "the people" better ...

    McCain served our country (honorably) ... came home ... served as a Navy liason in Washington, picked the place in Arizona where he was going to live based on where he could win a seat ... then into the House then Senate ... his political life was being "raised" by Washington.

    Obama (who was raised by a single mom) ... worked his ass off for everything he got ... well documented choice between making tons of money after Harvard Law or going back to the streets ... worked in Chicago as the community organizer, then in the state legislature, then Washington ..

    I just feel where he comes from and what his experieces are, Obama does have a better grip on what Americans go through.

    It's funny watching McCain call for the heads of these Washington insiders when he's been there for over a quarter of a century.
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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    jimed14 wrote:
    I think if you look at their histories ... Obama comes from a place wher ehe does understand "the people" better ...

    McCain served our country (honorably) ... came home ... served as a Navy liason in Washington, picked the place in Arizona where he was going to live based on where he could win a seat ... then into the House then Senate ... his political life was being "raised" by Washington.

    Obama (who was raised by a single mom) ... worked his ass off for everything he got ... well documented choice between making tons of money after Harvard Law or going back to the streets ... worked in Chicago as the community organizer, then in the state legislature, then Washington ..

    I just feel where he comes from and what his experieces are, Obama does have a better grip on what Americans go through.

    It's funny watching McCain call for the heads of these Washington insiders when he's been there for over a quarter of a century.

    you raise some great points that i agree with but and please forgive me but i am going to talk abotu my life growing up and the people that i deal with now as a social worker.

    i grew up with both parents, my mom works at a university in toronto canada and my dad worked in a factory. my parents were not rich but we were not poor either. my parents are conservative and raised me conservative. i am a social worker and i work with people who are living with HIV/AIDS who are homeless. if you look at my background it seems that i whould not hav e aclue abotu what my clienst deal with an dit is true i don't but i do have epathy. do you see the point i am trying to make, it does not matter how you grew up (rich or poor) it does not mean that you don't empathize with people. growing up poor does not mean that you can relate to poor people more, just like being rich does not mean that you can't relate to poor people. i know people who used to be poor and now look at teh poor as a disgrace. just like i know people who grew up rich who really care abotu teh poor.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Thecure wrote:
    you raise some great points that i agree with but and please forgive me but i am going to talk abotu my life growing up and the people that i deal with now as a social worker.

    i grew up with both parents, my mom works at a university in toronto canada and my dad worked in a factory. my parents were not rich but we were not poor either. my parents are conservative and raised me conservative. i am a social worker and i work with people who are living with HIV/AIDS who are homeless. if you look at my background it seems that i whould not hav e aclue abotu what my clienst deal with an dit is true i don't but i do have epathy. do you see the point i am trying to make, it does not matter how you grew up (rich or poor) it does not mean that you don't empathize with people. growing up poor does not mean that you can relate to poor people more, just like being rich does not mean that you can't relate to poor people. i know people who used to be poor and now look at teh poor as a disgrace. just like i know people who grew up rich who really care abotu teh poor.

    I get what you're saying, but, please don't take my words in a vacuum ... if you listen to what these two say, if you see them speak, if you hear their plans ... well, that's where it crystalizes for me.

    I mean, can we all have the same upbringing? Is someone in rural South Dakota the same as somone on the South Side of Chicago .... absolutely not.

    It's just my belief that Obama has the capacity, the aptitude to understand a lot more of what is going on ... and be able to comprehend it, and make sound jugement on it ... far more than McCain can.

    I'll say it ... political beliefs aside ... I think Barack Obama is just flat out SMARTER than John McCain.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    MrBrian wrote:
    McCain is a clown, so is Obama. I just don't like any of them. I think it's a joke the way they have supporters who will excuse anything they do or say.

    Obama can talk about attacking Iran, and his supporters, these same people who were against Bush for talking tough will back Obama saying the same things. Then they run around screaming "change! change!" Like a drunk homeless person.

    yeah, I guess we should bitch and moan about the word "vigor" and wearing green....
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    MrBrian wrote:
    Beverly Hills! any chance it will be shown on tv?...I checked the comedy central network and they are not broadcasting it. Maybe CNN?


    keep trying... you realyl are not doing a good job at all slandering Obama


    i love hoe some of the FAR left continues to try and bash Obama, while at the same time ignoring the fact that he is running against the REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT HAS FUCKED EVERYTHING UP THE LAST 8 YEARS

    GET FOCUSED ON THE RIGHT THING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD... it is getting pathetic at this point


    i guess focusing on the Republicans and all the shit the yhave fucked up isnt cool enough anymore for soem folks...

    keep your eye on the god damn ball folks, sheesh
  • saveuplife
    saveuplife Posts: 1,173
    MrBrian wrote:
    Obama can talk about attacking Iran, and his supporters, these same people who were against Bush for talking tough will back Obama saying the same things. Then they run around screaming "change! change!" Like a drunk homeless person.

    This is a classic quote.

    That episode of South Park was awesome btw.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    saveuplife wrote:
    This is a classic quote.

    That episode of South Park was awesome btw.

    Really? I don't watch south park. Ok I'll check out that episode! Thanks.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    inmytree wrote:
    yeah, I guess we should bitch and moan about the word "vigor" and wearing green....

    Put it into context.

    He refuses to allow his staff to wear green because green apparently is the color of islam. That's not pathetic to you?

    He also refuses to examine the reasons that cause terrorism. He just wants to continue the war, just with more vigor. Now will that stop terrorism? Will it solve any problems? No it will just create more.

    Why does Obama refuse to speak about the reasons? Why do people excuse him so much when he clearly is not going down the right path?
  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    jimed14 wrote:
    I get what you're saying, but, please don't take my words in a vacuum ... if you listen to what these two say, if you see them speak, if you hear their plans ... well, that's where it crystalizes for me.

    I mean, can we all have the same upbringing? Is someone in rural South Dakota the same as somone on the South Side of Chicago .... absolutely not.

    It's just my belief that Obama has the capacity, the aptitude to understand a lot more of what is going on ... and be able to comprehend it, and make sound jugement on it ... far more than McCain can.

    I'll say it ... political beliefs aside ... I think Barack Obama is just flat out SMARTER than John McCain.

    i don't know abotu smarter than McCain. it all depends on how you judge intelligence. book smart yes, Obama but life experiences i don't think so. Obama and McCain have different beliefs. i can't say that obama has more of a capacity to make sound judgements than mccain and the reason i say that is we don't know abotu that, all we can go on is what he says which is not always what a person does. remember Bush was the Uniter not the divider (still find that funny)
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    my2hands wrote:
    keep trying... you realyl are not doing a good job at all slandering Obama


    i love hoe some of the FAR left continues to try and bash Obama, while at the same time ignoring the fact that he is running against the REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT HAS FUCKED EVERYTHING UP THE LAST 8 YEARS

    GET FOCUSED ON THE RIGHT THING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD... it is getting pathetic at this point


    i guess focusing on the Republicans and all the shit the yhave fucked up isnt cool enough anymore for soem folks...

    keep your eye on the god damn ball folks, sheesh

    Not long ago you were running around this message pit quoting me, telling me how you like my postings, Pm me a few times "good job". Now you are just a little Obama bitch. How quickly things change.

    I'm not slandering Obama, I'm just saying that he is far from this great leader. His supporters are not demanding enough from him.

    Yes the republicans fucked up big time, yes the country is in a mess. So let's give Obama a free pass to the white house.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    MrBrian wrote:
    Not long ago you were running around this message pit quoting me, telling me how you like my postings, Pm me a few times "good job". Now you are just a little Obama bitch. How quickly things change.

    I'm not slandering Obama, I'm just saying that he is far from this great leader. His supporters are not demanding enough from him.

    Yes the republicans fucked up big time, yes the country is in a mess. So let's give Obama a free pass to the white house.


    i pm'd you "good job" brownie?


    the point is, stop trying to make shit out of nothing... most of the anti obama shit on this forum is just that, shit


    "OMG GUYS, Obama had a fundraising dinner like every politician has for the last 200 years!!!" :rolleyes:
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,892
    my2hands wrote:
    "OMG GUYS, Obama had a fundraising dinner like every politician has for the last 200 years!!!" :rolleyes:


    Now that's change you can believe in...er....wait....change??? What the hell does change mean anyhow???? Change the skin color of our president???? Change the letter behind his name???? ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    my2hands wrote:


    "OMG GUYS, Obama had a fundraising dinner like every politician has for the last 200 years!!!" :rolleyes:

    Ok then, fine let's play your wet beind the ears game.
    --

    Would you then call that dinner Obama had as 'change' or 'MORE OF THE SAME!'
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    MrBrian wrote:
    Put it into context.

    He refuses to allow his staff to wear green because green apparently is the color of islam. That's not pathetic to you?

    no...
    MrBrian wrote:
    He also refuses to examine the reasons that cause terrorism. He just wants to continue the war, just with more vigor. Now will that stop terrorism? Will it solve any problems? No it will just create more.

    Why does Obama refuse to speak about the reasons? Why do people excuse him so much when he clearly is not going down the right path?

    vigor does not mean "military force"....

    this "right" path you speak of...I'm not sure what path you're talking about...often, there are many ways to get to a destination....thus, many paths...so it's hard to say what path is "right"...
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    inmytree wrote:
    no...



    vigor does not mean "military force"....

    this "right" path you speak of...I'm not sure what path you're talking about...often, there are many ways to get to a destination....thus, many paths...so it's hard to say what path is "right"...

    1, speak of the reasons that have created this terrorism, why do people hate america? Obama needs to step up, speak of the causes. Not just go around ready for military actions. Which he seems to be saying more than the reasons we are in this mess to begin with.

    fair enough?

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