The giant atom-smasher experiment
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By Sean Patrick Sullivan, The Canadian Press
VANCOUVER - Canadian scientists at the forefront of the world's largest science experiment say discoveries made by a giant atom-smasher now whirring deep under European soil could radically alter our understanding of the universe.
In experiments beginning next month, the $10-billion Large Hadron Collider will re-create what happened in the split second after the Big Bang, mind-bending science that may shatter existing theories of physics and prompt the discovery of new particles and unknown dimensions
"We're on the edge of a major breakthrough in understanding the universe," Lockyer said in an interview at TRIUMF's sprawling compound at the university.
This breakthrough may come from this massive experiment 100 metres under the French-Swiss border, where the particle accelerator essentially lets scientists smash parts of atoms together at blinding speed and study the resulting mess.
The world's largest scientific instrument will use unprecedented amounts of energy to shoot two clouds of protons, with trillions of the particles in each cloud, around a 27-kilometre long circular tube.
The clouds collide at almost the speed of light, blowing the protons to smithereens and - ideally - offering a treasure trove of discoveries.
"We'll know what's out there. We'll know what to do for the rest of our lives," said Isabel Trigger, lead scientist for TRIUMF's contribution to the project.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080823/national/god_particle_1
I love this part
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It's different than any particle we've seen so far. If it doesn't exist, all of our theories of physics start to break," said McPherson, also with ATLAS-Canada.
VANCOUVER - Canadian scientists at the forefront of the world's largest science experiment say discoveries made by a giant atom-smasher now whirring deep under European soil could radically alter our understanding of the universe.
In experiments beginning next month, the $10-billion Large Hadron Collider will re-create what happened in the split second after the Big Bang, mind-bending science that may shatter existing theories of physics and prompt the discovery of new particles and unknown dimensions
"We're on the edge of a major breakthrough in understanding the universe," Lockyer said in an interview at TRIUMF's sprawling compound at the university.
This breakthrough may come from this massive experiment 100 metres under the French-Swiss border, where the particle accelerator essentially lets scientists smash parts of atoms together at blinding speed and study the resulting mess.
The world's largest scientific instrument will use unprecedented amounts of energy to shoot two clouds of protons, with trillions of the particles in each cloud, around a 27-kilometre long circular tube.
The clouds collide at almost the speed of light, blowing the protons to smithereens and - ideally - offering a treasure trove of discoveries.
"We'll know what's out there. We'll know what to do for the rest of our lives," said Isabel Trigger, lead scientist for TRIUMF's contribution to the project.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080823/national/god_particle_1
I love this part
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It's different than any particle we've seen so far. If it doesn't exist, all of our theories of physics start to break," said McPherson, also with ATLAS-Canada.
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(Article)
A Hawaii man with a background in nuclear physics is asking a court to stop scientists before they destroy us all. Walter F. Wagner and his colleague Luis Sancho really have filed a federal lawsuit, which you can read on the link, in order to stop work on the Large Hadron Collider, on the Franco-Swiss border, a giant atom smasher set to start operating in May.
The plaintiffs’ concerns are that the LHC could accidentally create strange new particles instantly transforming any matter they touched making a rapidly expanding black hole that would consume the entire Earth. That can’t be good. The lawsuit reads-
http://www.trendhunter.com/trends/stop-the-scientists-lawsuit-huge-atom-smasher-could-destroy-worldy
-How the Large Hadron Collider Works
http://science.howstuffworks.com/large-hadron-collider.htm
Enjoy!
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080907/atom_smasher_080907/20080907?hub=World&s_name=
Does Big foot really exist? will they ever find a cure for hair loss? what came first, the chicken or the egg? We will know soon enough.
If they're re-creating the big bang, what if they creat another 'mini' universe?!!
Creepy!
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http://fe7.news.re3.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080907/ap_on_re_eu/big_bang_machine
apparently there is a youtube rap about this?
This is very exciting, they may find out what exactly Dark Matter is and therefore do something with it..... Like i dunno what because it all goes way way way over my head but it's still interesting!
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GENEVA - Scientists at the world's largest particle collider have fired the first protons into a 27-kilometre-long tunnel in science's next great step to understand the makeup of the universe.
Project leader Lyn Evans gave the go-ahead to send the protons into the accelerator below the Swiss-French border early Wednesday. The $3.8 billion Large Hadron Collider was under construction since 2003.
Scientists hope it will provide the necessary power to smash the components of atoms so that they can see how they are made.
The startup has been eagerly awaited by 9,000 physicists around the world who will conduct experiments at the Swiss facility.
Some skeptics have said they fear the collisions of protons could eventually imperil Earth
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The giant accelerator's first task is to send a particle beam in one direction around its 27-km (17-mile) circumference, and then one in the other direction to test if the path is clear.
In the coming weeks beams will be sent in both directions simultaneously to create high-speed collisions.
Scientists around the world are eagerly anticipating data on those minuscule crashes. One possibility is that they will cause the creation of matter -- proving correct the theory that there exists a "Higgs Boson" that gives matter its mass.
Doomsday writers have also fanned fears that the experiment could create anti-matter, or black holes, spurring unprecedented public interest in particle physics ahead of the machine's start-up. CERN has insisted that such concerns are unfounded and that the Large Hadron Collider is safe.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080910/n_science_reuters/science_science_cern_dc_5
I wonder if my UNICEF meeting this evening will be redundant...
test 1: spin a proton (or photon or whatever it is) counterclockwise
test2: spin a proton (or photon or whatever it is) clockwise
world destroying experiment: do both at the same time and smash them into each other.
Then I realized I just had to poop.
If it occurs and life is created as a result.
Hail, Hail!!!
"An object in any very strong gravitational field feels a tidal force stretching it in the direction of the object generating the gravitational field. This is because the inverse square law causes nearer parts of the stretched object to feel a stronger attraction than farther parts. Near black holes, the tidal force is expected to be strong enough to deform any object falling into it, even atoms or composite nucleons; this is called spaghettification. The process of spaghettification is as follows. First, the object that is falling into the black hole splits in two. Then the two pieces each split themselves, rendering a total of four pieces. Then the four pieces split to form eight. This process of bifurcation continues up to and past the point in which the split-up pieces of the original object are at the order of magnitude of the constituents of atoms. At the end of the spaghettification process, the object is a string of elementary particles."
Not to worry... we'd all be long dead way before that as the atmosphere is sucked off the planet.
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Well that's better.
Where does all that shit go? Where will everything on the planet... and the planet itself... go when it's sucked in?
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Don't know if this answers your question but it's all I could find.
Before the falling object crosses the event horizon
An object in a gravitational field experiences a slowing down of time, called gravitational time dilation, relative to observers outside the field. The outside observer will see that physical processes in the object, including clocks, appear to run slowly. As a test object approaches the event horizon, its gravitational time dilation (as measured by an observer far from the hole) would approach infinity. Its time would appear to be stopped.
From the viewpoint of a distant observer, an object falling into a black hole appears to slow down, approaching but never quite reaching the event horizon: and it appears to become redder and dimmer, because of the extreme gravitational red shift caused by the gravity of the black hole. Eventually, the falling object becomes so dim that it can no longer be seen, at a point just before it reaches the event horizon. All of this is a consequence of time dilation: the object's movement is one of the processes that appear to run slower and slower, and the time dilation effect is more significant than the acceleration due to gravity; the frequency of light from the object appears to decrease, making it look redder, because the light appears to complete fewer cycles per "tick" of the observer's clock; lower-frequency light has less energy and therefore appears dimmer, as well as redder.
From the viewpoint of the falling object, distant objects generally appear blue-shifted due to the gravitational field of the black hole. This effect may be partly (or even entirely) negated by the red shift caused by the velocity of the infalling object with respect to the object in the distance.
As the object passes through the event horizon
From the viewpoint of the falling object, nothing particularly special happens at the event horizon. In fact, there is no (local) way for him to find out whether he has passed the horizon or not. An infalling object takes a finite proper time (i.e. measured by its own clock) to fall past the event horizon. This in contrast with the infinite amount of time it takes for a distant observer to see the infalling object cross the horizon.
Inside the event horizon
The object reaches the singularity at the center within a finite amount of proper time, as measured by the falling object. An observer on the falling object would continue to see objects outside the event horizon, blue-shifted or red-shifted depending on the falling object's trajectory. Objects closer to the singularity aren't seen, as all paths light could take from objects farther in point inwards towards the singularity.
The amount of proper time a faller experiences below the event horizon depends upon where they started from rest, with the maximum being for someone who starts from rest at the event horizon. A paper in 2007 examined the effect of firing a rocket pack within the black hole, showing that this can only reduce the proper time of a person who starts from rest at the event horizon. However, for anyone else, a judicious burst of the rocket can extend the lifetime of the faller, but overdoing it will again reduce the proper time experienced. However, this cannot prevent the inevitable collision with the central singularity.[27]
Hitting the singularity
As an infalling object approaches the singularity, tidal forces acting on it approach infinity. All components of the object, including atoms and subatomic particles, are torn away from each other before striking the singularity. At the singularity itself, effects are unknown; it is believed that a theory of quantum gravity is needed to accurately describe events near it.
I always pictured it as a giant compacted colon... except, really, REALLY compacted.
Hail, Hail!!!
I guess it could look like that except that bowel movements would occur in slow-motion
A group calling itself the Greek Security Team left a rogue webpage mocking the technicians responsible for computer security at the giant atom smasher as "schoolkids", the Times and Daily Telegraph reported.
The hackers vowed they had no intention of disrupting the experiment at the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) on the Swiss-French border, they just wanted to highlight the flaws in the computer system's security.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080913/technology/science_physics_cern_computer