"Continue the war against terrorism........
MrBrian
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with vigor" -Obama Jul 20, 2008 (say's the US will do if he's elected)
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It's like he's missing the point.
You would think that Obama would know that Terrorism is something that will not be won with violence, more troops or more war. Add some 'vigor', yep that's all this war of terror needs.
Why was America attcked? Why do people hate America? does Obama not wonder these things? does he not know the answers?
What about his many supporters? This should be another reason not to vote for him. Bcoz any person who thinks more war will end this 'terrorism' is wrong. It's that simple.
Obama refuses to get up and speak about the injustices America does around the world that causes it all. Perhaps he thinks people around the world don't like America bcoz it's....you know, 'free'
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It's like he's missing the point.
You would think that Obama would know that Terrorism is something that will not be won with violence, more troops or more war. Add some 'vigor', yep that's all this war of terror needs.
Why was America attcked? Why do people hate America? does Obama not wonder these things? does he not know the answers?
What about his many supporters? This should be another reason not to vote for him. Bcoz any person who thinks more war will end this 'terrorism' is wrong. It's that simple.
Obama refuses to get up and speak about the injustices America does around the world that causes it all. Perhaps he thinks people around the world don't like America bcoz it's....you know, 'free'
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I wonder what ideology will be blown out of proportion, vilified, and actively murdered next...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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So Obama has to support more war to get elected? And what happens once he's elected and actually GOES THROUGH with this war? Are you guys going to cry that you thought he was "faking it" to get elected? :rolleyes:
People need to wake the fuck up and do something.
Dude.
Who pissed in your wheaties?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Where does the shame go?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I wonder why you guys are acting shocked now.
He has said from Day one that the Iraq war was unjust and he wants to redeploy the services to Afghanistan. This has been my position since we started Iraq as I felt we weren't finished in Afghanistan. Yet another position that I see eye to eye with Obama.
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Secondly, campaigns are public relations wars and not much more than that. None of these people are to be seriously taken for "their word".
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Diplomacy at the end of a gun Barrel
Change you can believe in 08!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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But continuing with the war in Afghanistan is not any different than what Bush did. We don't have more wars to fight, we need to worry about our own country right now, and about dealing with issues OTHER THAN using guns.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
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Isn't that the one thing you never do in negotiations?
Wouldn't that promote more terrorism if they get there way through a terrorist act?
I know the US had a lot to learn from 9/11 and unfortunately we had the wrong President in office to actually learn anything from it at the time. But Obama will fight this war with both force and by diplomacy and gain more nation's support in fighting terrorism.
No matter what we did before 9/11 there is no justification for the terrorists actions and they should be made to pay. Now I may have more passion about this as I just visited NYC and Ground Zero less then a month ago for PJ but seeing the site really enforced that some good Noble work can still be done in the region if we leave Iraq and resume hunting after Al Queda.
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10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
I don't disagree with you here. My feeling is that a Legit battle against Terrorism would be the most noble war we could fight as it would be the one war that would truly make the world a better place. Bush going to Iraq has really thrown off what could have been a very important and noble mission for the world as a whole.
The problem is when do we stop the fight as there will always be some form of terrorism? That I do not have an answer to even though I support the continued hunting down of terrorists.
We do need to be more cautious of civilians and have more allies for my full support as well.
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7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
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10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
Unfortunately, I believe it's all empty campaign rhetoric, and that scares me shitless.
The Iraq War sucks, so people tend to want to throw the baby out with the bath water. People tend to forget the incredible strides we made against Al Qaeda in the first 12 months or so post-9/11, both on the ground in Afghanistan and behind the scenes.
I'd hate to give up all that ground by reverting to our head-in-the-sand pre/9.11 policies ... which I'm scared shitless Obama really wants to do. (ie ... maybe if we ask really, really, really nicely, Al Qaeda will stop hating us. Then we can all go out for lollipops and ice cream and live happily ever after).
for the least they could possibly do
Considering one of the main STATED reasons for the 9/11 attacks was US OCCUPATION OF THE REGION, i think this is a pretty bass-ackwards train of logic.
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Thats like if you punch someone in the face,
and they punch you back and say "this is for punching me in the face",
then you gather your wits and decide, "damn, thats fucked up. I better punch him in the face again, otherwise i'm caving to his demands."
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
Where were we truly occupied besides a few bases before 9/11?
That is not the way you get someone to leave the region. Now we will be there for the foreseeable future.
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
"Occupied" is a buzzword ... Its a valid term to use when referring to specific instances (e.g., Israel occupying post-1967 war terroritories that are not within the state's original borders), but it gets overused by those who think that everything the U.S. does in the Middle East is wrong.
Anyhow, your point is a good one. Attacks just appear to beget more "occupation".
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...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
You have a 10 times greater chance of being struck by lightning as you do of being involved in a terrorist attack.
Maybe we should have a War on Lightning?
You know, make the world a better place?
??? :cool: :cool: :cool: ???
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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Who's negotiating?
know how to promote terrorism? Make people desperate and angry, and give them a target to fixate on.
Noble work? There is no noble war...that's just how they sell it to us...how they sell ALL of them to us.
ah, good to see there is still some bloodlust flowing after 9/11.
The war on terror? There is no war on terror....I would guess that the 'insurgents' are mostly people pissed that their country is in shambles and their family dead...Generous estimates put Al-Quaeda's membership at 1000. If any of the ones that helped pull off 9/11 are still alive, they're either retired and livin it up in Dubai, or still up to no good - in Pakistan. I don't consider people fighting the US in Iraq (or the coalition in Afghanistan) to be terrorists..... It is an OCCUPATION. Correct me if I'm wrong, but no Western Power is being attacked ANYWHERE in the world, except in the countries that they're occupying, no? How is that a war on terror? Do we just keep bombing the middle east indefinitely, because it's working? When does it end?
(lol...war on lightning
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murder you can believe in to forge a just and moral nation for your children, and all the children of the world.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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