Real Id.

know1

Heineken Helen wrote:

I don't have a check or credit card or a vehicle to register... and it's been a while since I've been asked for ID in a bar but passport would DEFINITELY suffice for any of those. You only need your pin number with a credit card.

Well, if you were in America (which is what we're talking about here anyway), you'd be the exception rather than the rule. I can't think of too many people that do not have SOME form of ID that a government can already search (and your passport qualifies for that anyway).

MrBrian

I think it has more to do with the future of this, what this all will turn into. know what I mean?

ForestBrain

Heineken Helen wrote:

It's scary shit... isn't it a probability that they're going to start inserting chips in babies... and any parents that refuse will be considered bad parents (cos if their kid is abducted, it's their own fault they can't find them). Makes me wonder if it's actually governments going around abducting/pretending to try and abduct kids so people will be scared into agreeing... just like people will be scared into agreeing to do anything else :mad:

Why do they need all this fucking information on us? It's ridiculous... ah don't get me started on conspiracy theories :eek:

I like you.

sicnevol

know1 wrote:

Drivers Licenses. You hand a cop your driver's license and he/she goes back to the car and in 2 mins knows your whole record. It's just that there are 50 different drivers licenses.

no, no, He has you arrest record for THAT STATE, he doesn;t get a picture of your birth certificate or your SSI information. The Only stuff they can look up with a drivers license is an arrest record any warrants. they don;t get anythign else....

Heineken Helen

ForestBrain wrote:

I like you.

know1 my passport is my world literally... I'm willing to give up that little bit of me so I can travel all over the place. Why should I need a card just to walk along the street though? Or go shopping? Or go drinking? How far will YOU let them go before you think 'woah, they're not doing that to me?'. Honestly, just curious, do you think every suggestion a government makes to take away our freedom is for the good of the people? Do you REALLY think they care that much about us? So really I would like to know... where is your limit?

If they arrest you and tear your life to shreds because your dna was found at a crime scene even though you had nothing to do with it... would you just shrug your shoulders and say 'well I've nothing to hide so I'm happy to help with your investigation'??? Once they have everyones DNA there's very little they can't do or control.

See... I know an ID card seems like very little but THEN what? They they suggest chips in EVERYONE and people will agree and say 'well I've nothing to hide', then there's another attack and suddenly they've invented this thing they can insert in your brain that will prevent you from committing a crime and everyone will say 'ah yeh, that's a good idea... I've nothing to hide but it will stop all the bad people'. I don't get it... if you've nothing to hide they've no reason to go that far. We're all entitled to our personal freedom and once the governments start intruding in that... well then we're pretty fucking fucked... but the people will go along thinking it's a good idea and thinking it's giving them 'freedom' :eek: . Sometimes I just want to shake them.