President Barack H Obama

Nevermind

my2hands wrote:

no hatred... i am defending the people of my country from arrogant foreigners who comment as if they live here... the whole "Americans are dumb and lazy" cliche doesnt fly with me, especially coming from people that are not even from here :rolleyes:

Did someone say they were all dumb and lazy? Or are you stretching the truth a little bit here?

DriftingByTheStorm

"This regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward the goal of one world government. National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept." -- Zbigniew Brzezinski, former advisor to Obama (before he resigned, since he was making it a bit to obvious to the partisan masses, given that his son is currently employed by the McCain campaign)

know1

I don't see Obama as black....

....I guess I'm not a racist.

gabers

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

What policy of Obama's is going to make the dollar "pop back"?

I'm eager to hear this one.

:cool:

Ask any real businessman what they think of Obamas economic policies,
and they will tell you he runs the risk of pushing us totally off the edge.

Raising taxes restricting the growth of enterprise and scaring investment OUT of the country,
and raising spending (oh, you really think all his pie-in-the-sky programs are coming free of charge?) will push the dollar off a cliff.

Not exactly recipies for making the dollar "pop back".

How about ending a billion dollar a month war? I mean if he actually does. I'm not holding my breath, but that might free up some money. If Bill Clinton could balance the budget, so can Obama.

rocketman

Why the H? We all know his middle name. Should we be confused? In denial? What is the message there? We acknowledge the H in his name but not the res of the H? Its Hussein. I dont care. But what are you trying to deny?

Kann

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Ask any real businessman what they think of Obamas economic policies,
and they will tell you he runs the risk of pushing us totally off the edge.

Raising taxes restricting the growth of enterprise and scaring investment OUT of the country,
and raising spending (oh, you really think all his pie-in-the-sky programs are coming free of charge?) will push the dollar off a cliff.

Not exactly recipies for making the dollar "pop back".

For someone who prides himself for reading alternative news and not being manipulated by major medias, you just used a 50 year old argument used by about every conservative government since ww2: "A left 'leaning government' will damage the economy by raising taxes".
Except that's not true, history has regularly taught us otherwise in several different countries.
For instance, after 8 years of a conservative govermnent in the US and major investments in the US again the US (and the whole world) is facing a very big financial crisis. You don't need to be a liberal (left) to do bad things to the economy.
And I also think, on the dollar, that many things can affect the value of the dollar : a president's decisions of course but also movements outside the US, thanks to globalization, chinese foreign policies for instance will have an affect on your money.

know1 wrote:

I don't see Obama as black....

....I guess I'm not a racist.

No, but you may be blind.

rocketman wrote:

Why the H? We all know his middle name. Should we be confused? In denial? What is the message there? We acknowledge the H in his name but not the res of the H? Its Hussein. I dont care. But what are you trying to deny?

I most often seen George W. Bush rather than George Walker Bush. Is that denial as well?

even flow?

So they all ready have movie(s) out getting the public ready for an assassination of a president. So I wonder how long it would take before ole B gets the bullet if he wins.

Thecure

gabers wrote:

How about ending a billion dollar a month war? I mean if he actually does. I'm not holding my breath, but that might free up some money. If Bill Clinton could balance the budget, so can Obama.

that is the question will he end the war, what about the talk about Iran? he has been talking really tough about Iran.

know1

Kann wrote:

No, but you may be blind.

I hope I am blind to the silly notion of race.

I wish that race would stop being a consideration in life.

know1

gabers wrote:

How about ending a billion dollar a month war? I mean if he actually does. I'm not holding my breath, but that might free up some money. If Bill Clinton could balance the budget, so can Obama.

I'd love of a peaceful resolution to the so-called "war", but then the question is what will we do with that money? I hope it is sent out to us in the form of incentives and rebates (doubtful from Obama).

inmytree

Thecure wrote:

that is the question will he end the war, what about the talk about Iran? he has been talking really tough about Iran.

he did use the word "vigor" recently...

by the way, where did you hear he was going to invade Iran...? I missed that...

RainDog

MLC2006 wrote:

let's see, a recent study has shown that Obama is getting 75% of the media coverage, and yet McCain is NARROWING the difference in the polls...with a full 3 months to go. If you're already declaring Obama president, I'm thinking you are going to be very sad in November. if the election had been last month, Obama would've won. but the longer he has to campaign, the more he has to talk. and the more he talks, the more people realize he's completely unqualified to be president.

That's not a hard one to figure out, though. While Obama has been getting more coverage, the vast majority of it has been negative.

http://www.cmpa.com/Studies/Election08/election%20news%207_29_08.htm

And, as was pointed out to me earlier, though they claim to be nonpartisian, this study was done by a fairly conservative organization.

MLC2006

RainDog wrote:

That's not a hard one to figure out, though. While Obama has been getting more coverage, the vast majority of it has been negative.

CBS, NBC, and ABC have been mostly negative towards Obama?!?! I beg to differ.

that article linked is ridiculous. saying "Obama said he would still not support the troop surge knowing what he knows now" is not 'negative reporting', it's called 'stating a fact'. since when is reporting something factual called "negative reporting"?

RainDog

MLC2006 wrote:

CBS, NBC, and ABC have been mostly negative towards Obama?!?! I beg to differ.

that article linked is ridiculous. saying "Obama said he would still not support the troop surge knowing what he knows now" is not 'negative reporting', it's called 'stating a fact'. since when is reporting something factual called "negative reporting"?

This is the same organization that provided a study a few years ago that showed the media to be liberally biased, and conservatives waved it around and around saying "see, we told you so."

It's negative reporting because it implies that Obama was wrong not to support the surge, and is wrong in not acknowledging that he was wrong. So, have you stopped beating your wife?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

What policy of Obama's is going to make the dollar "pop back"?

I'm eager to hear this one.

:cool:

Ask any real businessman what they think of Obamas economic policies,
and they will tell you he runs the risk of pushing us totally off the edge.

Raising taxes restricting the growth of enterprise and scaring investment OUT of the country,
and raising spending (oh, you really think all his pie-in-the-sky programs are coming free of charge?) will push the dollar off a cliff.

Not exactly recipies for making the dollar "pop back".

*chris crocker voice*

Leave Obama Alone.....

just leave him alone......

all you Obama haters.....

if you want to get to him you have to go through me...

leave him alone...

*sobs uncontrollably*

signed the moving train Obamatron fan squad

Thecure

inmytree wrote:

he did use the word "vigor" recently...

by the way, where did you hear he was going to invade Iran...? I missed that...

i never said that Obama was going to attack Iran but he has been talking tough about them when he talked with Jewish people

callen

MrBrian wrote:

McCain I don't think is gonna win. I really don't think he will. Like I said, not unless Obama slips up.

The republicans I don't think even expect McCain to win, they just seem to be using him to build themselves up for the election after this one.

Obama's the long shot....there are lots of white folk that will not vote for Obama...also McCain hasn't yet started his attack campaign....give it another month.

MrBrian

callen wrote:

Obama's the long shot....there are lots of white folk that will not vote for Obama...also McCain hasn't yet started his attack campaign....give it another month.

Yeah I hear yeah...But If I was a betting man I'd bet on Obama, but anything can happen for sure.

But I do believe that McCain is just a filler for the republican party and his own party does not expect him to win. But of course it does not mean that he will not win...

puremagic

MLC2006 wrote:

first off, I couldn't care less whether or not you "make fun of Americans", because you live in America Jr. you're an "American Jr", so you're really in no position to "make fun" of anyone.

next, McCain has 22 years of federal government experience (in addition to his military experience). Obama has 2 years of federal government experience. McCain has spent his whole career voting on both sides of the aisle. Obama has voted along party lines pretty much every time he voted.

now don't get me wrong here, I'm not voting for either one of them because I think they'd both be terrible presidents. but neither you nor Obama or anyone else wants to get into a "qualifications" argument with McCain, because you lose.

22 years of what? Instead of the number, why don't you elaborate on Senator McCain's congressional activities and achievements. STOP, before you even think to type it, I asked first.

Just because a person fought in a war, got captured and survived captivity does not mean they are qualified to be President. Being Commander-In-Chief is just ONE aspect of being President of the United States, Bush and his Administration's forgot.

DriftingByTheStorm

Kann wrote:

For someone who prides himself for reading alternative news and not being manipulated by major medias, you just used a 50 year old argument used by about every conservative government since ww2: "A left 'leaning government' will damage the economy by raising taxes".
Except that's not true, history has regularly taught us otherwise in several different countries.
For instance, after 8 years of a conservative govermnent in the US and major investments in the US again the US (and the whole world) is facing a very big financial crisis. You don't need to be a liberal (left) to do bad things to the economy.
And I also think, on the dollar, that many things can affect the value of the dollar : a president's decisions of course but also movements outside the US, thanks to globalization, chinese foreign policies for instance will have an affect on your money.

a. The Bush administration has been anything but "conservative".
b. you didn't actually make a valid argument against my premise
c. saying "yeah but the repubs fucked it up too" does not mean that Obamas policies will not be equally or more devastating.

d. the reason this country is economicaly fucked right now has to do with systemic issues in the banking system directly related to fiscal policy. it has nothing to do with George Bush or "conservative" "economic policy"

e. almost every motivation to keep money in the US financial markets has evaporated over the last 8 months. we don't need to add tax hikes to the list of disinsentives.

f. you didn't say a word about social programs (like national civil defense force or health care or SS or so forth and so on) ... given Obama seems to have dropped his plans for any significant shift in war policy, where is this money coming from, besides printing more of it?

g. this is all cart before horse, as i still harbor significant doubts that Obama will actually be the next president.