President Barack H Obama

MrBrian

So America is going to (probably) have it's first Black President....Exciting right?...Now we get to witness how racism in America get's burried underground. Everyone get's to hide how much they hate other skin colors....yay!perhaps giving way to some Xenophobia? You know, the flags get raised again and that Pride so many americans have returns to rape and pillage once more.

(btw I feel that we will hear a lot of this)

"we are not racist! we have a black president!"

But I gotta say, I think thing's will improve in America, the dollar will bounce back and americans can return to shitting pop tarts and cotton candy like back during the clinton years.

But I guess that's where America is most comfortable, in the great American bubble, thinking that everything is alrite. the world is fine and everyone wants to be an American.

This, all thanks to President Obama..who became president becoz he was able to give better performances than hollywood.

and that freak McCain? He just waited until the other republicans killed eachother off. some even killed themselves off...

Of course McCain has no real chance to win, not unless Obama screws up big time, like maybe insult the american people in some way? I dunno maybe say sometg like "Americans need to control their diets, lay off the McDonalds"...Imagine the American public "did that nigger just call us fat?"

SVRDhand13

Since America's birth, most of the time when a party takes over Congress one election year (as the Dems did in 2006) the opposing party wins the presidency. And McCain is catching up in most polls and even winning in one major one. So let's not say "probably" yet.

EDIT: don't get my hopes up .

dontloseyourheat

Do you read the polls or just believe the media hype?

Most polls it indicate only a 4-6% differential. And as Svrdhand pointed, McCain is even winning one (US Today I believe).

MrBrian

dontloseyourheat wrote:

Do you read the polls or just believe the media hype?

Most polls it indicate only a 4-6% differential. And as Svrdhand pointed, McCain is even winning one (US Today I believe).

McCain I don't think is gonna win. I really don't think he will. Like I said, not unless Obama slips up.

The republicans I don't think even expect McCain to win, they just seem to be using him to build themselves up for the election after this one.

DriftingByTheStorm

What policy of Obama's is going to make the dollar "pop back"?

I'm eager to hear this one.

:cool:

Ask any real businessman what they think of Obamas economic policies,
and they will tell you he runs the risk of pushing us totally off the edge.

Raising taxes restricting the growth of enterprise and scaring investment OUT of the country,
and raising spending (oh, you really think all his pie-in-the-sky programs are coming free of charge?) will push the dollar off a cliff.

Not exactly recipies for making the dollar "pop back".

dmitry

you think obama will affect the strength of the dollar?

(i guess drifting beat me to it)

DriftingByTheStorm

dmitry wrote:

you think obama will affect the strength of the dollar?

(i guess drifting beat me to it)

Lol.
Yeah,
to be fair the President SHOULDN'T have any fucking affect on the dollar.
Neither should a hand full of appointed assholes at something called the "Federal" "Reserve", which respectively isn't and hasn't any.

:(

MrBrian

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

What policy of Obama's is going to make the dollar "pop back"?

I'm eager to hear this one?

:cool:

Nothing really...It's cyclical. Thing's should improve as they tend to do to a large extent. Also remember that when a people start to be positive and whatever else... crazy things can happen. I do see americans feeling better and life in American getting better...on the surface of course. I'm not saying that it's going to take on the Euro. Don't miss my point.

I also think that any positives will of course be short term....Think South Africa right after mandela was elected. The country had a small boom! Things started getting better, McDonalds opened up and delivered the first Big Mac Via helicopter. Everyone was happy...But the internal troubles were about to burst and well..they did. The rand fell more, crime went up. Now they have rolling black outs and a crime rate only lower than Iraq.

So if shit like that can happen when Mandela is president of a country and although Obama speaks in a similar style to Mandela at times....He is no Mandela..Policy wise or anything else.

bootlegger10

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

What policy of Obama's is going to make the dollar "pop back"?

I'm eager to hear this one.

:cool:

Ask any real businessman what they think of Obamas economic policies,
and they will tell you he runs the risk of pushing us totally off the edge.

Raising taxes restricting the growth of enterprise and scaring investment OUT of the country,
and raising spending (oh, you really think all his pie-in-the-sky programs are coming free of charge?) will push the dollar off a cliff.

Not exactly recipies for making the dollar "pop back".

The C corporation tax rate will likely go down, which will help, but yeah, Obama's plan is scary.

my2hands

MrBrian wrote:

So America is going to (probably) have it's first Black President....Exciting right?...Now we get to witness how racism in America get's burried underground. Everyone get's to hide how much they hate other skin colors....yay!perhaps giving way to some Xenophobia? You know, the flags get raised again and that Pirde so many americans have returns to rape and pillage once more.

"we are not racist! we have a black president!"

But I gotta say, I think thing's will improve in America, the dollar will bounce back and americans can return to shitting pop tarts and cotton candy like back during the clinton years.

But I guess that's where America is most comfortable, in the great American bubble, thinking that everything is alrite. the world is fine and everyone wants to be an American.

another canadian with horsehit cliche commentary on "America"

you act as if there are no racists in Canada? :rolleyes:

dmitry

MrBrian wrote:

Nothing really...It's cyclical.

That's true thanks to the Fed, but guess what part of the cycle has just begun.

MrBrian

my2hands wrote:

another canadian with horsehit cliche commentary on "America"

you act as if there are no racists in Canada? :rolleyes:

I'll stop the Cliché commentary when you all stop giving reasons for it.
Stop voting the same, acting the same.

That's what I mean, it's all cyclical.
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When have I even said that Canada has no racists? I go after Canada enough for it's problems. But this thread is not about Canada.

bootlegger10

my2hands wrote:

another canadian with horsehit cliche commentary on "America"

you act as if there are no racists in Canada? :rolleyes:

And a very, very poorly worded commentary at that!

MLC2006

let's see, a recent study has shown that Obama is getting 75% of the media coverage, and yet McCain is NARROWING the difference in the polls...with a full 3 months to go. If you're already declaring Obama president, I'm thinking you are going to be very sad in November. if the election had been last month, Obama would've won. but the longer he has to campaign, the more he has to talk. and the more he talks, the more people realize he's completely unqualified to be president.

MrBrian

MLC2006 wrote:

let's see, a recent study has shown that Obama is getting 75% of the media coverage, and yet McCain is NARROWING the difference in the polls...with a full 3 months to go. If you're already declaring Obama president, I'm thinking you are going to be very sad in November. if the election had been last month, Obama would've won. but the longer he has to campaign, the more he has to talk. and the more he talks, the more people realize he's completely unqualified to be president.

So the voters in turn run to McCain who is just as unqulified to be president and who's policies are even worse.

And people wonder why I make fun of Americans about this?

Nevermind

my2hands wrote:

another canadian with horsehit cliche commentary on "America"

you act as if there are no racists in Canada? :rolleyes:

Whats with all the Canadien hate recently?

MLC2006

MrBrian wrote:

So the voters in turn run to McCain who is just as unqulified to be president and who's policies are even worse.

And people wonder why I make fun of Americans about this?

first off, I couldn't care less whether or not you "make fun of Americans", because you live in America Jr. you're an "American Jr", so you're really in no position to "make fun" of anyone.

next, McCain has 22 years of federal government experience (in addition to his military experience). Obama has 2 years of federal government experience. McCain has spent his whole career voting on both sides of the aisle. Obama has voted along party lines pretty much every time he voted.

now don't get me wrong here, I'm not voting for either one of them because I think they'd both be terrible presidents. but neither you nor Obama or anyone else wants to get into a "qualifications" argument with McCain, because you lose.

my2hands

Nevermind wrote:

Whats with all the Canadien hate recently?

no hatred... i am defending the people of my country from arrogant foreigners who comment as if they live here... the whole "Americans are dumb and lazy" cliche doesnt fly with me, especially coming from people that are not even from here :rolleyes:

MrBrian

MLC2006 wrote:

first off, I couldn't care less whether or not you "make fun of Americans", because you live in America Jr. you're an "American Jr", so you're really in no position to "make fun" of anyone.

next, McCain has 22 years of federal government experience (in addition to his military experience). Obama has 2 years of federal government experience. McCain has spent his whole career voting on both sides of the aisle. Obama has voted along party lines pretty much every time he voted.

now don't get me wrong here, I'm not voting for either one of them because I think they'd both be terrible presidents. but neither you nor Obama or anyone else wants to get into a "qualifications" argument with McCain.

I'll ignore the first part because I have no comeback for such insight.
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Is voting on both sides of the isle a good thing? McCains voting record and the issues he stands behind are bad for the country. This is a simple fact.
He supports the war which is another major problem.

Also someone can have a 100 years in the federal government. This does make him more qulified, not if his polices are backwards.

So I don't discount Obama being unqulified to be president due to the lack of Experience he has in comparison to McCain, but rather on the issues and his stances. Including his support for Israel,the war of Terror and the Iraq war which he voted to fund.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

An autistic homeless person could probably beat McCain wit a few well placed cue cards and a shave.

That said, I think it will probably be something like a 60/40 split at best.

I guess we'll finally see how the stereotypes hold up.

MLC2006

MrBrian wrote:

I'll ignore the first part because I have no comeback for such insight.
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Is voting on both sides of the isle a good thing? McCains voting record and the issues he stands behind are bad for the country. This is a simple fact.
He supports the war which is another major problem.

Also someone can have a 100 years in the federal government. This does make him more qulified, not if his polices are backwards.

So I don't discount Obama being unqulified to be president due to the lack of Experience he has in comparison to McCain, but rather on the issues and his stances. Including his support for Israel,the war of Terror and the Iraq war which he voted to fund.

you're right, you don't have a comeback. the willingness to vote on both sides of the aisle is absolutely a good thing. Obama hasn't shown such willingness. you and Obama can harp on about the war all you want, but the outcome remains to be seen. there is more stability in Iraq now than there has been in the last 5 years, and probably longer. if we pull out of Iraq with a democratic allie in the mideast (other than Israel), then the war would have been well worth it.

further, if you're going to war, whether or not it's right or wrong, it's a good idea to give the troops the opportunity to actually WIN the war. the troop surge has worked. Obama even readily admits the troop surge worked, but still says he would've voted against it. that's about the most dumbfuck ass-backward logic I've ever heard from a politician...."I would still vote against something that worked if I had it to do over again".