Pentagon to Extend Tours for All GIs

MrBrian

Active-Duty Tours to Go to 15 Months Instead of 12 Months
By JONATHAN KARL


April 11, 2007 — The Pentagon will extend the tours of duty for every active-duty soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As ABC News first reported Tuesday, this plan was in consideration, but will be announced today by the secretary of defense and chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

Forget small extensions and trickles of National Guard troops. Under the plan, deployments for active-duty soldiers will be extended from the current 12 months to 15 months. This will apply to all active-duty soldiers, but not to the National Guard and Reserve.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=3027796&page=1

MrBrian

I don't care much for these soldiers, but I do care that this extra stress will probably make them just that little bit more angry which means many more shootings and abuses done by them.

That is my concern.

Cosmo

MrBrian wrote:

I don't care much for these soldiers, but I do care that this extra stress will probably make them just that little bit more angry which means many more shootings and abuses done by them.

That is my concern.

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I care. i care a lot about these soldiers.
I dislike the fact that they have been tasked to do nation building when they are trained a soldiers. I hate the way they are the only ones carrying the load in this war. I hate it that they are not even given the proper care at home when they get injured over there.
I can understand them blowing a top and going off on them... I would probably make a horrible soldier because I would probably end up lighting up the next poor sap that crossed my path after one of my mates got his legs blown off by a booby trap. It makes me sick... this war.

ProvidenceHunter

MrBrian wrote:

I don't care much for these soldiers, but I do care that this extra stress will probably make them just that little bit more angry which means many more shootings and abuses done by them.

That is my concern.

Wow, you have no idea what type of people these soldiers are.

sonicreducer

the fifth army is still in korea.

Cosmo

sonicreducer wrote:

the fifth army is still in korea.

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Still kicking down the doors... looking for the Commies, eh?

MrBrian

ProvidenceHunter wrote:

Wow, you have no idea what type of people these soldiers are.

They are the type of people who allow themselves to be sent off and kill innocent people, I would rather face jail time, i'd rather die then kill an innocent person or be a part of that killing.

MrBrian

Cosmo wrote:

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I care. i care a lot about these soldiers.
I dislike the fact that they have been tasked to do nation building when they are trained a soldiers. I hate the way they are the only ones carrying the load in this war. I hate it that they are not even given the proper care at home when they get injured over there.
I can understand them blowing a top and going off on them... I would probably make a horrible soldier because I would probably end up lighting up the next poor sap that crossed my path after one of my mates got his legs blown off by a booby trap. It makes me sick... this war.

The other people carrying the load of this war are the people who are now under american occupation. soldiers have brains, no? They themselves can stop this war if they wanted. If the soldiers refused to go, made demands, like treating fellow injured soldiers when at home. what, the government gonna lock up 50.000 troops?

But I guess I should'nt expect a cow to milk itself.
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(I do of course understand your point and respect your position on it)

even flow?

Nothing like an American with a super tan, I tell you. Good on them. Stops the draft from coming in, which will make the people who like wars but don't like fighting them happy.

lucylespian

Sounds like Catch 22 to me, just keep extending those tours buddy, great way to piss people off.

Ericastrada

MrBrian wrote:

They are the type of people who allow themselves to be sent off and kill innocent people, I would rather face jail time, i'd rather die then kill an innocent person or be a part of that killing.

What an asshole. Like some one else said, you don't know these people. Maybe you should try getting out of your bubble an actually talking to one of these guys. You may find out you have more in common with them than you think.

inmytree

MrBrian wrote:

Active-Duty Tours to Go to 15 Months Instead of 12 Months
By JONATHAN KARL


April 11, 2007 — The Pentagon will extend the tours of duty for every active-duty soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As ABC News first reported Tuesday, this plan was in consideration, but will be announced today by the secretary of defense and chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

Forget small extensions and trickles of National Guard troops. Under the plan, deployments for active-duty soldiers will be extended from the current 12 months to 15 months. This will apply to all active-duty soldiers, but not to the National Guard and Reserve.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=3027796&page=1

this sucks balls for these soldiers and their families...I don't want to get into the whole "I don't like soldiers" thing, that's for another thread....

I think the larger issue is "why?"....why were they extended...what is our current mission....? and when will we see some improvement in the situation....?

how much longer is this shit going to go on...?

MrBrian

Ericastrada wrote:

What an asshole. Like some one else said, you don't know these people. Maybe you should try getting out of your bubble an actually talking to one of these guys. You may find out you have more in common with them than you think.

I know right, I'm a total asshole, I dislike people invading countries and doing some killing. yeah yeah. bad on me right?

nevertheless I do know soliders, one of my friends has even left the army. Another went to iraq and came back with a back injury. so what's this idea that I don't know any? I've probably spoken to more than you.

So don't confuse yourself. I mean sure one can have many things in common with another, but if that person is doing something wrong am I suppose to overlook it because we both like music? gimme a break dude, you are the fucking bubble boy.

MrBrian

inmytree wrote:

this sucks balls for these soldiers and their families...I don't want to get into the whole "I don't like soldiers" thing, that's for another thread....

I think the larger issue is "why?"....why were they extended...what is our current mission....? and when will we see some improvement in the situation....?

how much longer is this shit going to go on...?

Maybe you'll agree with this.

even if this iraq war ended in 24hrs, I bet america and many of these soldiers would be ready to damage iran in a heartbeat. what i'm saying is that some people just don't learn. people don't care about "cause", people don't ask "why". I mean how quickly did america fall into "9/11 was an attack on freedom loving people"

I mean I know my history and history shows that soliders have almost always been used as pawns in the game. that is of course very sad. for sure for sure.

inmytree

MrBrian wrote:

Maybe you'll agree with this.

even if this iraq war ended in 24hrs, I bet america and many of these soldiers would be ready to damage iran in a heartbeat. what i'm saying is that some people just don't learn. people don't care about "cause", people don't ask "why". I mean how quickly did america fall into "9/11 was an attack on freedom loving people"

I mean I know my history and history shows that soliders have almost always been used as pawns in the game. that is of course very sad. for sure for sure.

yup, I agree with this...

Ericastrada

MrBrian wrote:

I know right, I'm a total asshole, I dislike people invading countries and doing some killing. yeah yeah. bad on me right?

nevertheless I do know soliders, one of my friends has even left the army. Another went to iraq and came back with a back injury. so what's this idea that I don't know any? I've probably spoken to more than you.

So don't confuse yourself. I mean sure one can have many things in common with another, but if that person is doing something wrong am I suppose to overlook it because we both like music? gimme a break dude, you are the fucking bubble boy.

I'm sorry, I forgot you could see things so much better from your pedestal. It must be tough looking at all us ignorant servicemen and women from where you stand.

ProvidenceHunter

MrBrian wrote:

Maybe you'll agree with this.

even if this iraq war ended in 24hrs, I bet america and many of these soldiers would be ready to damage iran in a heartbeat. what i'm saying is that some people just don't learn. people don't care about "cause", people don't ask "why". I mean how quickly did america fall into "9/11 was an attack on freedom loving people"

I mean I know my history and history shows that soliders have almost always been used as pawns in the game. that is of course very sad. for sure for sure.

What are you talking about. People don't care about cause? don't ask why?, What are you doing now. What most of the people on this board doing. Do you even think about what you are posting or do you just spew crap.

Not every one is going to see things they way you do. Just because they don't does not mean they do not learn, or care about "cause" or ask "why".

As far as soldiers.
Soldiers would be ready to do what they are told. There job is not to ask get together and discuss and then vote if they should go fight. That is your representatives responsibility. The soldiers job is to go fight where they are told and to win where they fight. Their job is to accomplish the missions they are given.

I said you had no idea what type of people the soldiers are because you seem to think that they want to kill and damage things. They don't enjoy killing, they didn't join to kill, or damage things, like you implied.

scot88

i am so sick of your shit mrbrian. your relentless douchebaggery is profound. i bet you think you are so different and special because of your "unique view" of iraq, soldiers, etc. etc. well here comes the clue train... last stop you. sure, there have been a few incidents where individuals have done terrible, terrible things. but what about the countless, unnoticed good things that are accomplished every day?

also, the way you portray every american servicemember as a blood thirsty baby killer is disgusting. i could go on a rant here, but i'm not going to waste my time and energy. suffice it to say that it is incredibly ignorant.

oh, and for being such a bleeding heart liberal, you aren't very tolerant of other people's views.

... and i don't even agree with the fucking war.

Ericastrada

scot88 wrote:

i am so sick of your shit mrbrian. your relentless douchebaggery is profound. i bet you think you are so different and special because of your "unique view" of iraq, soldiers, etc. etc. well here comes the clue train... last stop you. sure, there have been a few incidents where individuals have done terrible, terrible things. but what about the countless, unnoticed good things that are accomplished every day?

also, the way you portray every american servicemember as a blood thirsty baby killer is disgusting. i could go on a rant here, but i'm not going to waste my time and energy. suffice it to say that it is incredibly ignorant.

oh, and for being such a bleeding heart liberal, you aren't very tolerant of other people's views.

... and i don't even agree with the fucking war.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
And just for the record, I was in the military, and no, I don't beleive in killing innocent civilians and I don't support the war or George W.

MrBrian

Ericastrada wrote:

Couldn't have said it better myself.
And just for the record, I was in the military, and no, I don't beleive in killing innocent civilians and I don't support the war or George W.

Don't be so hard on yourself, I'm sure you could've come up with a more amusing post than his.

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nevertheless,

While you were in the military, if you were asked to serve in iraq, would you go? I would'nt. the war was wrong, it is wrong. I have no interest in fighting a war like that. I do look down on people who do. It's not just a diff view that they have, I mean when you go whatever miles away ready to kill for nothing, that is more than just a view.

MrBrian

scot88 wrote:

sure, there have been a few incidents where individuals have done terrible, terrible things. but what about the countless, unnoticed good things that are accomplished every day?

They should not be in iraq to begin with. but they went, they made that choice.

The troops invaded another land, they are part of a group that is responsible for many many deaths. so they throw some candy at a few kids. You want me to take notice of good things that they do? Tell them to not go. they should rather face lock up. like i said, they can't lock every troop up for not going yeah? but that point you ignored in my other post.

At the end of the day, Bush aint the one holding the gun.