Pentagon to Extend Tours for All GIs
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Active-Duty Tours to Go to 15 Months Instead of 12 Months
By JONATHAN KARL
April 11, 2007 — The Pentagon will extend the tours of duty for every active-duty soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan.
As ABC News first reported Tuesday, this plan was in consideration, but will be announced today by the secretary of defense and chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
Forget small extensions and trickles of National Guard troops. Under the plan, deployments for active-duty soldiers will be extended from the current 12 months to 15 months. This will apply to all active-duty soldiers, but not to the National Guard and Reserve.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=3027796&page=1
By JONATHAN KARL
April 11, 2007 — The Pentagon will extend the tours of duty for every active-duty soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan.
As ABC News first reported Tuesday, this plan was in consideration, but will be announced today by the secretary of defense and chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
Forget small extensions and trickles of National Guard troops. Under the plan, deployments for active-duty soldiers will be extended from the current 12 months to 15 months. This will apply to all active-duty soldiers, but not to the National Guard and Reserve.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=3027796&page=1
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That is my concern.
I care. i care a lot about these soldiers.
I dislike the fact that they have been tasked to do nation building when they are trained a soldiers. I hate the way they are the only ones carrying the load in this war. I hate it that they are not even given the proper care at home when they get injured over there.
I can understand them blowing a top and going off on them... I would probably make a horrible soldier because I would probably end up lighting up the next poor sap that crossed my path after one of my mates got his legs blown off by a booby trap. It makes me sick... this war.
Hail, Hail!!!
Wow, you have no idea what type of people these soldiers are.
~Ron Burgundy
Still kicking down the doors... looking for the Commies, eh?
Hail, Hail!!!
They are the type of people who allow themselves to be sent off and kill innocent people, I would rather face jail time, i'd rather die then kill an innocent person or be a part of that killing.
The other people carrying the load of this war are the people who are now under american occupation. soldiers have brains, no? They themselves can stop this war if they wanted. If the soldiers refused to go, made demands, like treating fellow injured soldiers when at home. what, the government gonna lock up 50.000 troops?
But I guess I should'nt expect a cow to milk itself.
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(I do of course understand your point and respect your position on it)
What an asshole. Like some one else said, you don't know these people. Maybe you should try getting out of your bubble an actually talking to one of these guys. You may find out you have more in common with them than you think.
this sucks balls for these soldiers and their families...I don't want to get into the whole "I don't like soldiers" thing, that's for another thread....
I think the larger issue is "why?"....why were they extended...what is our current mission....? and when will we see some improvement in the situation....?
how much longer is this shit going to go on...?
I know right, I'm a total asshole, I dislike people invading countries and doing some killing. yeah yeah. bad on me right?
nevertheless I do know soliders, one of my friends has even left the army. Another went to iraq and came back with a back injury. so what's this idea that I don't know any? I've probably spoken to more than you.
So don't confuse yourself. I mean sure one can have many things in common with another, but if that person is doing something wrong am I suppose to overlook it because we both like music? gimme a break dude, you are the fucking bubble boy.
Maybe you'll agree with this.
even if this iraq war ended in 24hrs, I bet america and many of these soldiers would be ready to damage iran in a heartbeat. what i'm saying is that some people just don't learn. people don't care about "cause", people don't ask "why". I mean how quickly did america fall into "9/11 was an attack on freedom loving people"
I mean I know my history and history shows that soliders have almost always been used as pawns in the game. that is of course very sad. for sure for sure.
yup, I agree with this...
I'm sorry, I forgot you could see things so much better from your pedestal. It must be tough looking at all us ignorant servicemen and women from where you stand.
What are you talking about. People don't care about cause? don't ask why?, What are you doing now. What most of the people on this board doing. Do you even think about what you are posting or do you just spew crap.
Not every one is going to see things they way you do. Just because they don't does not mean they do not learn, or care about "cause" or ask "why".
As far as soldiers.
Soldiers would be ready to do what they are told. There job is not to ask get together and discuss and then vote if they should go fight. That is your representatives responsibility. The soldiers job is to go fight where they are told and to win where they fight. Their job is to accomplish the missions they are given.
I said you had no idea what type of people the soldiers are because you seem to think that they want to kill and damage things. They don't enjoy killing, they didn't join to kill, or damage things, like you implied.
also, the way you portray every american servicemember as a blood thirsty baby killer is disgusting. i could go on a rant here, but i'm not going to waste my time and energy. suffice it to say that it is incredibly ignorant.
oh, and for being such a bleeding heart liberal, you aren't very tolerant of other people's views.
... and i don't even agree with the fucking war.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
And just for the record, I was in the military, and no, I don't beleive in killing innocent civilians and I don't support the war or George W.
Don't be so hard on yourself, I'm sure you could've come up with a more amusing post than his.
nevertheless,
While you were in the military, if you were asked to serve in iraq, would you go? I would'nt. the war was wrong, it is wrong. I have no interest in fighting a war like that. I do look down on people who do. It's not just a diff view that they have, I mean when you go whatever miles away ready to kill for nothing, that is more than just a view.
They should not be in iraq to begin with. but they went, they made that choice.
The troops invaded another land, they are part of a group that is responsible for many many deaths. so they throw some candy at a few kids. You want me to take notice of good things that they do? Tell them to not go. they should rather face lock up. like i said, they can't lock every troop up for not going yeah? but that point you ignored in my other post.
At the end of the day, Bush aint the one holding the gun.
telling all of the soldiers to just drop their guns and not go to war is ridiculous. most of them agree with the war (but i'm not going to reject talking to them or dismiss their views simply because they differ from mine.) as for those who disagree with the war (deffinetly not the majority,) should they not go to iraq and face the consequences? well, let's take a look at the conseqences. worst case scenario (which would never happen), they are convicted of running away (not awol, i forget the technical term), and are hanged. best case scenario, dishonorable discharge with a bleek job outlook (who is going to hire someone with a dishonorable discarge... i know people who have gotten them and it's a bitch to get a job.) what would probably happen is you would go to a miliary prison for a year, maybe a few, and then dishonorably discarged. so now you have a dishonorable discharge and have to report going to prison. in simple terms: your fucked.
so there goes that theory.
Wal mart, mc donalds, burger king. they always are looking for people. I don't think they'll care about a dishonrable discharge.
Yes they should face the consequences. Now as far as the majority goes, if you are correct and they do support the war, well then. I stand even firmer with what I said about them earlier on.
i know for a fact that walmart does not hire people with dishonorable discharges.
and again, you are just proving how narrow minded you are, despite your ultra liberal views.
They're just like you and me, and any other asshole on the street.
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There are enlistees in Iraq who joined the armed forces after March of 2003, but I'll bet they are less than 15% of the forces over there right now. I wish I could get the stats on that. It may be higher, but I doubt it. You also have to consider the fact that some of the facts about this administration and this war hadn't reached the ears of a large part of the country til this last year or two.
So, get off your moral high horse. Please.
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Hadn't reached the ears? what the hell are you talking about? it's people like you who make the troops and avg american seem like an idiot, fucking waiting for info to reach you, if you wait too long it may never even fucking come. You have to go out and take the info, look for it yourself. I did, most of the planet did. lots and lots of people knew how bad this all was years ago. so don't give me this pathetic song about info and facts reaching ears. what an excuse.
I also gave my example about 9/11, how many people asked why? so many believed the "attack on freedom" line, started flying flags and all ready for revenge.
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walk mart does'nt hire them? fine, my bad, but the point is, I bet enough places do, so can't find a job is not an excuse.
No they are not. Most "any other asshole on the street" is not willing to make the sacrafices the soldiers make. Most people are to selfish to even consider joining the armed services. I am not trying to say soldiers are better, I am just saying they are different.
Here is a fun fact. Only 6% of the population joins the armed forces.
And MrBrain still does not know what type of people the soldiers are.
they are types of people (according to gue) that don't look for info themselves but wait for it to reach them, perhaps via Osmosis? I dunno.