How Does Obama feel about Israel?
MrBrian
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An interesting write up on Obama and his stance on Israel.
Sen. Barack Obama isn’t quite sure how he feels about the lopsided situation between Israel and Palestine. Less than two weeks after Obama gloated to AIPAC about his love for Israel, he unexpectedly admitted the truth while campaigning in Iowa recently. “[N]obody is suffering more than the Palestinian people...” said Obama, “the Israel government must make difficult concessions for the peace process to restart...” The truth hurts indeed, and Obama has been feeling the wrath of the pro-Israel activists since his statement last week.
Nonetheless, Obama shouldn’t be trusted on the issue. While Rep. Dennis Kucinich hired avid pro-Palestine advocate Noura Erakat to sit on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Obama has been backpedaling -- assuring AIPAC and others that he is unwavering in his support for Israel’s continued bullying of Iran and occupation of Palestine.
“[Iran] is a genuine threat” to the United States and Israel, expressed Obama at a forum sponsored by AIPAC on March 12 in Washington D.C., only one day after his lucid remarks in Iowa. At the event Obama also reiterated that he would not rule out the use of force in disarming Iran, a position shared by the other leading Democratic presidential contenders, Hillary Clinton and John Edwards.
Earlier this month on March 2, Obama spoke at an AIPAC Policy Forum in Chicago where he clearly laid out his full stance on Israel, promising he would not alter the U.S./Israeli relationship. “[W]e must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs,” he said. “This would help Israel maintain its military edge and deter and repel attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza.”
So while Obama admits that Palestinians suffer more than Israelis, he still won’t do a damn thing to balance out the asymmetrical relationship. In fact, Obama has made it clear that U.S. tax payers will continue to foot the bill for Israel’s ever-growing arsenal of weapons and missiles if he is indeed elected president in 2008.
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http://brickburner.blogs.com/my_weblog/2007/03/obamas_israel_p.html
For someone who goes on about being so fresh and unique, he sure knows the art of back-pedaling.
Sen. Barack Obama isn’t quite sure how he feels about the lopsided situation between Israel and Palestine. Less than two weeks after Obama gloated to AIPAC about his love for Israel, he unexpectedly admitted the truth while campaigning in Iowa recently. “[N]obody is suffering more than the Palestinian people...” said Obama, “the Israel government must make difficult concessions for the peace process to restart...” The truth hurts indeed, and Obama has been feeling the wrath of the pro-Israel activists since his statement last week.
Nonetheless, Obama shouldn’t be trusted on the issue. While Rep. Dennis Kucinich hired avid pro-Palestine advocate Noura Erakat to sit on the Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Obama has been backpedaling -- assuring AIPAC and others that he is unwavering in his support for Israel’s continued bullying of Iran and occupation of Palestine.
“[Iran] is a genuine threat” to the United States and Israel, expressed Obama at a forum sponsored by AIPAC on March 12 in Washington D.C., only one day after his lucid remarks in Iowa. At the event Obama also reiterated that he would not rule out the use of force in disarming Iran, a position shared by the other leading Democratic presidential contenders, Hillary Clinton and John Edwards.
Earlier this month on March 2, Obama spoke at an AIPAC Policy Forum in Chicago where he clearly laid out his full stance on Israel, promising he would not alter the U.S./Israeli relationship. “[W]e must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs,” he said. “This would help Israel maintain its military edge and deter and repel attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza.”
So while Obama admits that Palestinians suffer more than Israelis, he still won’t do a damn thing to balance out the asymmetrical relationship. In fact, Obama has made it clear that U.S. tax payers will continue to foot the bill for Israel’s ever-growing arsenal of weapons and missiles if he is indeed elected president in 2008.
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http://brickburner.blogs.com/my_weblog/2007/03/obamas_israel_p.html
For someone who goes on about being so fresh and unique, he sure knows the art of back-pedaling.
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Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Really? Didn't he recognize the concessions Israel would need to make to restart the peace process?
He really doesn't have a choice, he has to keep these people sweet, regardless of whether he agrees or not.
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I think the issue is with his stance on continuing to supply Israel with weapons while ignoring the needs of Palestinians. Now I don't think we should be giving either side weapons, but to continue our same policy of this one sided support and aid is only going to make matteres continue to grow worse over there. And it's really a disgrace to say we care about the Palestinian people but our leaders actions always seem to be pointing the other way.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
On the flip side, Barak Hussein Obama's support for Isreal seems a bit suspect, doesn't it? I mean, the guy's a dyed in the burka Muslim who wants nothing more than to impose Sharia law across the global spectrum, outlaw devotional Christianity (or at least tax Christians a la sanctioned dhimmitude), force women into subordinate roles in society, etc. I mean, shit, the first sign of all this came in 2001 when he endorsed a law that required food bearing a Halal label to actually be Halal food. The nerve. I mean, if I want to secretly feed pigs to Muslims, it's my right!! That doesn't sound like an Isreal supporter to me. And if he isn't a Muslim, that means he converted, and that means that one billion Muslims the world around are commanded - COMMANDED - to murder him on sight. What in the hell are the ... people .... in .. this.........
Goddamn it. I need to stop reading Free Republic.
tell hamas to take "destruction of Israel" from its charter and we will be happy to help
Why? This is the crucial clause in their charter.
What would Obama do?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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he doesn't have a chance in hell to win so i don't care what he thinks. but it does concern me that all the candidates are willing to go to war with iran. does this mean war is ok if it's started by a democrat?
I think thats depenedant on Israel taking "conquer palestine" out of their charter.
No, war isn't ok from either party, especially not when it's based on false premises. I don't really undertsand the support for these guys either. I guess it doesn't matter. It's all about supporting your guy til the end no matter what that includes...kinda sad. I've always thoughts ideals like peace and good will where above simply getting a Dem in office.
I know you'll say Dennis is unelectable, as well. But he has always been against this war and against one with Iran. He also doesn't blindly support Israel's aggression.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/26/147221
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
The man is running for president, you don't think it's imporant to know where he stands on one of the biggest issues of our time? unlike say what he eats.
its not in their charter
Didn't ya know? That's just not as important as charisma and divorce rates!
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Well damn jlew, you might need to go over it with them again.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Oh, they took it out?
I guess now they just gotta stop doing it.
I'm starting to think that those things are more important
it would take Israel all of 4 hours to own all of palastine. are their border issues? land rights issues? yes. most of which date back to the 1967 war which was before most of our time. concessions absolutely have to be made on Israels side for peace to happen.
hamas is openly stating they want Israel destroyed. you, abook and others seem to be perfectly fine with that
Cause that's what I've said, right? Quit making shit up to make it seem like you have a point.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
are you ok, upset, or indifferent about Hamas wanting Israel destroyed?
you seem to be upset about america's one sided support, but fail to see why its like that.
if i ask questions and then answer them instead of just stating what i feel to be true does this make me seem intelligent? no
Does it make me an obnoxious condescending little prick? yes
had to comment i seen it too much today...
I'm upset by the violence on both sides and don't think we should be adding to it. Israel is already so much more powerful than anyone around them. On top that, Israel seems to be the one instigating the aggression. I know you'll disagree with that so I don't know where we can really go from here. I favor a two-state plan, not the destruction of one to give all power to the other.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I agree 100% but how can this happen when one side only exists for the sole purpose of destroying the other? Israel has proven it was willing to work with abbas, he wants peace, so does Israel. Hamas does not. so who is the bad guy again?
Palestine does not exist for the sole purpose of destroying Israel. The bad guys are ones on both sides fueling violence and hate as acceptable methods of solving their differences.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Give that man a prize.
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/charter.html
Hamas Charter (1988)
The Charter of Allah: The Platform of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas)
“In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate You are the best community that has been raised up for mankind. Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah. And if the People of the Scripture had believed, it had been better for them. Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-doers. They will not harm you save a trifling hurt, and if they fight against you they will turn and flee. And afterward they will not be helped. Ignominy shall be their portion wheresoever they are found save [where they grasp] a rope from Allah and a rope from man. They have incurred anger from their Lord, and wretchedness is laid upon them. That is because they used to disbelieve the revelations of Allah, and slew the Prophets wrongfully. That is because they were rebellious and used to transgress.” Surat Al-Imran (III), verses 109-111 Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors. The Islamic World is burning. It is incumbent upon each one of us to pour some water, little as it may be, with a view of extinguishing as much of the fire as he can, without awaiting action by the others.
you are flat out wrong