Six Muslim men removed from a plane

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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    How is suspicious defined? If people are being removed from planes for looking/acting suspiciously where is the line drawn? Not all Muslims are of middle-eastern origin... not all terrorists are male, and not all upstanding citizens are smiley caucasians. They might as well ban air travel. It's the only solution.

    the line is drawn when the suspicious activity crosses into potentially dangerous activity, like collecting seatbelts (only possible use i can conceive is strangling), moving seats to guard all the exits, etc. im not familiar enough with airline security to say exactly, but that is what experts are for.

    no, not all muslims are of middle eastern origin. but most islamic terrorists are middle eastern. not all terrorists are male, but most terrorists are male. not all upstanding citizens are smiley caucasians, but i have never heard of any caucasians hijacking an airplane. im sorry, but when flying on an airplane, i dont want security to be strip searching a 75 year old ohio grandmother in the name of fairness. it's a waste of resources. maybe it's not fair, but neither is life.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    the line is drawn when the suspicious activity crosses into potentially dangerous activity, like collecting seatbelts (only possible use i can conceive is strangling), moving seats to guard all the exits, etc. im not familiar enough with airline security to say exactly, but that is what experts are for.

    no, not all muslims are of middle eastern origin. but most islamic terrorists are middle eastern. not all terrorists are male, but most terrorists are male. not all upstanding citizens are smiley caucasians, but i have never heard of any caucasians hijacking an airplane. im sorry, but when flying on an airplane, i dont want security to be strip searching a 75 year old ohio grandmother in the name of fairness. it's a waste of resources. maybe it's not fair, but neither is life.

    Wasn't there a caucasian kid who hijakced or stole a plane and crashed it into a building, maybe a couple of days/weeks/months after 911? I'm not entirely sure, but I think he was caucasian. And yes, it was an isolated incident but that doesn't mean it can't happen again. Radical Islamists in the US or other western countries can find a caucasian people to persuade or brainwash into doing things "for the greater good".
    But you're of course right, but this whole case seems rather weird. You say it's unfair and you're right. I think the airline did what they had to do, someone complained and maybe if they hadn't put them off the plane panic might have spread. But after that they held the 6 clergy men, one of which was blind and had to be guided into the plane, for 7 hours and after that they refused to let them on another plane. Why? Do you think they'd refuse any of us? Or even detain us for 7 hours?
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    As I recall the first hijackers were Russian or something. There is a history section on wikipedia.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Ahnimus wrote:
    As I recall the first hijackers were Russian or something. There is a history section on wikipedia.



    Commercial flying wasn't very old before the first aircraft was seized. On Feb. 21st 1931, Byron Rickards took off from Lima, the capital of Peru, to fly to the southern city of Arequipa. His Panagra Ford Tri-motor was surrounded by soldiers as he landed, and he was told it was to be detained for the use of would be revolutionaries and that he was to fly to their orders. He simply refused, and went on refusing until March 2nd, when his captors informed him that their revolution had been successfully concluded, and that he was free to return to Lima so long as he took one of the Junta with him.

    http://www.airdisaster.com/features/hijack/hijack.shtml
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