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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Caffeine, prescription drugs, listening to music, talking on the phone, talking to a passenger, all impair you, too.

    The question should be how much does pot impair you? Is it enough to affect your driving abilities?
    Nearly every jurisdiction has limits on the volume of music for safety reasons. More and more jurisdictions have rules against cell phone use while driving. People are sometimes but not often enough convicted of driving while impaired while on prescription drugs.

    I don't want a zero tolerance for pot, just an acceptable level like we have for alcohol. And to be prudent until that level is set and an easy to use measurement system is devised I'm all for zero tolerance.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    surferdude wrote:
    Nearly every jurisdiction has limits on the volume of music for safety reasons. More and more jurisdictions have rules against cell phone use while driving. People are sometimes but not often enough convicted of driving while impaired while on prescription drugs.

    I don't want a zero tolerance for pot, just an acceptable level like we have for alcohol. And to be prudent until that level is set and an easy to use measurement system is devised I'm all for zero tolerance.

    And I still think it needs to be proven that it's dangerous. I'd like to see the numbers of how many accidents are caused from being under the influence of pot.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Sleep depravation and fatigue are probably worse than most impairments. Malnutrition is bad too.
    It's this type of immature attitude towards others safety is why I will always vote against the legalization of pot. Once you grow up and accept responsibility and accountability I'd vote in favor of legalizing pot. Sorry, but to me you come across as babies when you refuse to address a very legitimate issue of public safety and driving.

    Would you get on a plane if you saw the whole flight crew hitting the bong big time? After all it doesn't impair them, or so you seem to be argueing? They'll fly safer, right.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    And I still think it needs to be proven that it's dangerous. I'd like to see the numbers of how many accidents are caused from being under the influence of pot.
    One is one too many. It's preventable, take a cab.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    surferdude wrote:
    It's this type of immature attitude towards others safety is why I will always vote against the legalization of pot. Once you grow up and accept responsibility and accountability I'd vote in favor of legalizing pot. Sorry, but to me you come across as babies when you refuse to address a very legitimate issue of public safety and driving.

    Would you get on a plane if you saw the whole flight crew hitting the bong big time? After all it doesn't impair them, or so you seem to be argueing? They'll fly safer, right.
    ahnimus wrote:
    Nobody should drive without performance enhancers, cars are too dangerous.

    I was pointing out reality, I don't agree with people driving while they are tired either, but none-the-less everyone still does it and so do I. I'm not about to make up excuses for my irresponsible driving, I know it's wrong to drive under the influence of fatigue, but I do it anyway, everyone does.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    surferdude wrote:
    One is one too many. It's preventable, take a cab.

    One person may be too dumb to drive. Let's have iq requirements along with getting your license.

    One person may be too sleepy. Let's have sleep requirements before we can leave the house.

    One person may have been to jittery. Let's have limitations on how much coffee we can consume before driving.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    One person may be too dumb to drive. Let's have iq requirements along with getting your license.

    One person may be too sleepy. Let's have sleep requirements before we can leave the house.

    One person may have been to jittery. Let's have limitations on how much coffee we can consume before driving.
    Hey if you can figure the way to address these, go ahead.

    We can't fix all the world's problem, but those we can we must. This is a straight forward problem witha straight forward solution, zero tolerance until an easy to administer test is developed and a safe thc level is found.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    surferdude wrote:
    Hey if you can figure the way to address these, go ahead.

    We can't fix all the world's problem, but those we can we must. This is a straight forward problem witha straight forward solution, zero tolerance until an easy to administer test is developed and a safe thc level is found.

    Impossible MJ stays in your blood for days. You could smoke herb yesterday in the safest possible conditions no cars for miles under strict supervision then drive 100% sober the next day and whamo... busted for intoxicated driving.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    surferdude wrote:
    Doing drugs in a foreign country is insane. You may have pretty much lost all priviledges to travel anywhere in the world until any conviction is removed. This may prevent you from ever being able to take future kids to DisneyWorls ever. It's not worth it.
    .

    i would consider this a unexpected, but very welcomed bonus. :D
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    DisneyWorld sucks! Canada's Wonderland is the shit!
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Ahnimus wrote:
    DisneyWorld sucks! Canada's Wonderland is the shit!

    totally!...
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Just watch your feet on the drop-zone.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Wonderland? I used to work practically beside the place for 5 years...

    I'm a roller coaster junkie...could ride them perpetually all day with a huge shit eating grin on my face.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Wonderland? I used to work practically beside the place for 5 years...

    I'm a roller coaster junkie...could ride them perpetually all day with a huge shit eating grin on my face.

    You shouldn't eat shit man...
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ahnimus wrote:
    You shouldn't eat shit man...

    I know...but after smoking it...sometimes the munchies gets me so indiscriminate

    I made the mistake of going to wonderland on Acid once. The rides were tears in your eyes orgasmic gagging with laughter... The cramped and long line-ups were not quite the "same" :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I know...but after smoking it...sometimes the munchies gets me so indiscriminate

    I made the mistake of going to wonderland on Acid once. The rides were tears in your eyes orgasmic gagging with laughter... The cramped and long line-ups were not quite the "same" :D

    Yea, I hate line-ups that's why it takes an entire day to go on a half-dozen rides.

    So... they shut down the drop-zone...
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Yea, I hate line-ups that's why it takes an entire day to go on a half-dozen rides.

    So... they shut down the drop-zone...

    They shut down the Drop zone? wtf...is that from that girl getting her legs/feet cut off? maybe the same manufacturer makes the DZ under different names?

    The lineup for that ride was totally insane the first year it came out. I think it was like 2.5 - 3 hours according to the lineup signs. I had a seasons pass and would sneak over for lunch sometimes for a coaster or two or after work. I could just walk over.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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    (\__/)
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    (")_(")
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    They shut down the Drop zone? wtf...is that from that girl getting her legs/feet cut off? maybe the same manufacturer makes the DZ under different names?

    The lineup for that ride was totally insane the first year it came out. I think it was like 2.5 - 3 hours according to the lineup signs. I had a seasons pass and would sneak over for lunch sometimes for a coaster or two or after work. I could just walk over.

    Yup, same manufacturer, closed because of the feet severing thing...

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070622.wwonderland0622/BNStory/National/home/
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Let's have limitations on how much coffee we can consume before driving.

    i'm fucked :p
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    "how am i driving man?"

    "we're fucking parked man"

    :)

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