Ahmadinejad says Israel will "disappear"

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

i think he'd love to wipe Israel off the map, but he's mostly harmless. Iran knows better than to fuck with Israel.

Cosmo

JD Sal wrote:

A lot of folks have defended Ahmadinejad's comments about 'wiping Isreal off the map' saying it was translated incorrectly. My question is, if this is true, why do you think Ahmadinejad has not publicly commented on this and clarified what the true meaning of his statement was?

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My guess is... because he is not running for President?
Here in America.. a guy(gal) says something... and other people in the "news" media pick up on it and make a big deal out of it... so the guy(gal) comes back to explain what they meant... which leads to more in the "news" media to spend hours of broadcast time argueing over it til you get so fucking disgusted with the whole thing you change the channel and watch the 'Law And Order' re-run... again.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

It should be taken into consideration the long imposing history of western meddling that has taken place over there, and how vastly different the cultures are.

This by default does not make them evil and full of bad intentions. Not in the least.

But the media .well...they (Iran) should be a smoldering ruins by now, because they are all evil and want to destroy the world so we have to stop them.

I suppose the mentality is like taking in a bear cub at birth but abusing the hell out of it, and having to kill it before it gets big enough to attack and hurt you.

Maybe stop abusing and taking advantage of people/things lesser than you?

hmm

naaa...

fuck it right?

Bombs...

blackredyellow

MrSmith wrote:

i think he'd love to wipe Israel off the map, but he's mostly harmless. Iran knows better than to fuck with Israel.

Totally agree...

cincybearcat wrote:

I think you give him too much credit...I think he says what he means exactly, and he says what he wants.

Not saying you do this, but what makes me laugh about this board is that people will vilify and make out someone as the craziest, most dangerous person around, then take any quote that comes from him as the gospel.

We break down word for word what our politicians say, and interpret every possible meaning, but as soon as a foreign leader makes a statement, we quote it and pass it around like it's some unquestionable statement.

cincybearcat

blackredyellow wrote:

Totally agree...




Not saying you do this, but what makes me laugh about this board is that people will vilify and make out someone as the craziest, most dangerous person around, then take any quote that comes from him as the gospel.

We break down word for word what our politicians say, and interpret every possible meaning, but as soon as a foreign leader makes a statement, we quote it and pass it around like it's some unquestionable statement.

I was basically saying the same thing that Mr.Smith was...just that he would like to see Israel wiped off the map...I believe him...I seriously doubt he woudl do it though...even if he could

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Two things about Ahmadinejad that the media has so dutifully (and idiotically) distorted to the point that it is almost a potential nuclear war are:

Holocaust denier: He does not deny it. He states that it is over exaggerated (over referenced if you will) to the point that it is used as a shield to murder Palestinians and violate numerous international laws, and vilify, smear and discredit people that oppose any Zionist ideology.


Israel wiped off the map: Well the current "state" of condition of Israel is doomed to be wiped from the pages of history, not the map ...there's no map..he never said the words map. He meant the "regime occupying Jerusalem" will cease to exist and be wiped from the pages of history.

NMyTree

kh65 wrote:

Huh? Does 444 days mean anything to you? Why do you want to support some nut who says the Holocaust never happened? You are probably the same person who supported Saddam when he was in power. Do you always support dictators?

Actually he never said any of that. You are either misquoting him or buying into the widely reported misinterpretations of what he said.

I'm certainly no supporter or fan of Amadenijad or Islamic Extremists. But at least get your facts straight and dislike him for real reasons. Not the reasons Bill O'Rielly and Fox News told you to use, in your dislike.

NMyTree

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I believe what he (Ahmadinejad) is saying is the state or condition of Israel in it's present path will not continue.

It's out of balance....like all things out of balance in history they are bound to tip over at some point.

Correct. Amadenijad's comments have been largely focused and islolated to Zionist and the Zionist leaders in Israel. Not Israel or Jews as a whole.

Oh wait, I forgot the standard 2003 reply:

"Then fucking move to Iran and go be a Muslim you communist" :D

ledvedderman

I've heard David Copperfield say he was going to make the Statue of Liberty "disappear" and I don't remember it getting its own thread on AMT.

Open

cincybearcat wrote:

I think you give him too much credit...I think he says what he means exactly, and he says what he wants.

Yeah b/c that's what politicians do.

DriftingByTheStorm

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Israel wiped off the map: Well the current "state" of condition of Israel is doomed to be wiped from the pages of history, not the map ...there's no map..he never said the words map. He meant the "regime occupying Jerusalem" will cease to exist and be wiped from the pages of history.

To clarify further:

1. He did not "say" this, he quoteD it, from a past Islamic cleric.

2. It was a PASSIVE verb. the phrase was "mustFADE from the pages of history"

As in, the current occupying regime in Israel is oppressive and wrong, and MUST FADE from the pages of history.




Further,
whomever said, if Ahmadinejad didn't mean what he said, why didn't he come out and say so. HE DID.
His Minister of Foreign Affairs came out and challenged that quote the next week.

:cool:

Eliot Rosewater

MrBrian wrote:

Mon Jun 2, 6:40 AM

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's president said on Monday Israel would soon disappear off the map and that the "satanic power" of the United States faced destruction, in his latest verbal attack on the Islamic Republic's arch-foes.

"You should know that the criminal and terrorist Zionist regime which has 60 years of plundering, aggression and crimes in its file has reached the end of its work and will soon disappear off the geographical scene," he said.


Turning to the United States, he said the era of decline and destruction of its "satanic power" had begun and added: "The bell on the countdown of the destruction of the empire of power and wealth has begun to ring."

(Here we go again)

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080602/world/international_iran_israel_usa_dc

I don't entirely disagree. Whether it's by means of a very disgruntled man like him, who IMO has reason to be upset with Israel and the U.S., or by other means, i.e. economic, I think history has shown that once a country tries to pull the shit that the U.S. has been pulling....they eventually fail.

One of the smartest men alive wrote a book on it...you should check it out.

http://www.democracynow.org/2006/3/31/exclusive_noam_chomsky_on_failed_states

catefrances

MrBrian wrote:

In April, a senior Iranian army commander said Iran will respond to any military attack from Israel by "eliminating" it, in comments condemned by Washington
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seems a perfectly logical response to me.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

To clarify further:

1. He did not "say" this, he quoteD it, from a past Islamic cleric.

2. It was a PASSIVE verb. the phrase was "mustFADE from the pages of history"

As in, the current occupying regime in Israel is oppressive and wrong, and MUST FADE from the pages of history.




Further,
whomever said, if Ahmadinejad didn't mean what he said, why didn't he come out and say so. HE DID.
His Minister of Foreign Affairs came out and challenged that quote the next week.

:cool:

Yet you will hear people parrot "wipe Israel off the map" by millions for many years to come.

Is there some kind of back woods contest going on to blow up as many middle eastern countries as possible now? *cough PNAC*

You really have to ask yourself how much longer they can keep this charade going before people finally start figuring it out.

Eliot Rosewater

ledvedderman wrote:

I've heard David Copperfield say he was going to make the Statue of Liberty "disappear" and I don't remember it getting its own thread on AMT.

Funny post ledvedder....but I can't help but think of Gob Bluth http://youtube.com/watch?v=uVzcAf1ROy4 whenever Copperfield is mentioned.

rebornFixer

_outlaw wrote:

you're absolutely right. if Israel attacks Iran first, then Iran should only "respond." "Eliminating" it, however, is out of the question. :rolleyes:

Roll your eyes at me when you learn to stop talking out of your ass.

rebornFixer

Cosmo wrote:

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Do you remember 1991? We were supposed to be met with the 'Mother Of All Battles'.
Moral: Don't take what these fucking guys over there say... so seriously.

I don't take them seriously at all ... They are retarded throwbacks to the Dark Ages with a lot more bark than bite. My point was, if this guy shoots off his mouth, people shouldn't waste mental energy trying to blame everyone in the Western world for persecuting poor defenseless Iran. Sorry, just officially reached the point where I am no longer willing to pretend that we are the only stupid ones here.

fuck

reborncareerist wrote:

Roll your eyes at me when you learn to stop talking out of your ass.

:rolleyes:

Open

He's just doing what Bush did; using an outside threat (US and Israel) to buy more time for himself.

Byrnzie

I wonder how many racist, sabre-rattling quotes from senior Israeli politicians and military men I could find which speak of wiping all Palestinians off the face of the earth, and describing them all as dogs, e.t.c?

Anyone wanna hazard a guess?