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My little Obama "claim to fame"

ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
If you watch the "About Barack" video on BarackObama.com, if you go to the 4:25 mark of the video every shot until the DNC speech was organized by me. I supplied the extras, picked the locations, and worked with the Senator while he was there.
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  • present addresspresent address Posts: 72
    he is going down.... but your time with him i am sure was cool....
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    present address wrote:
    he is going down.... but your time with him i am sure was cool....

    Not a chance he is going down, not a chance at all. Once people see him speak or meet him it's like heroin. If he gets around like he should he will win. It's either him or Edwards. Clinton a distant third
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    who is warner? what is he all about? and why do you think he will be the running mate?
  • present addresspresent address Posts: 72
    i am glad you are supporting someone that is cool to be excited....... i have to find someone but i have sometime.... becareful of hillary she is going to attack him like an ant in a beehive
  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Not a chance he is going down, not a chance at all. Once people see him speak or meet him it's like heroin. If he gets around like he should he will win. It's either him or Edwards. Clinton a distant third

    The only problem is that us intelligent folks don't care how he speaks. We look at his voting record.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    The only problem is that us intelligent folks don't care how he speaks. We look at his voting record.

    Look man, sometimes the country just needs a leader, and after the past 8 years that is what we need. Is his voting record perfect? No. No one from either party can come out clean while being in Congress.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    jlew24asu wrote:
    who is warner? what is he all about? and why do you think he will be the running mate?

    Warner is former Virginia Governor Mark Warner. His name was thrown around for quite some time as a possible Democratic Presidential candidate. Here is why I think he would be a good VP candidate: He left office (in Virginia, the ultra Red state) with an 80% approval rating, he is more moderate than Obama, and could attract a strong southern vote.
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  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Look man, sometimes the country just needs a leader, and after the past 8 years that is what we need. Is his voting record perfect? No. No one from either party can come out clean while being in Congress.

    The country just needs a leader? The country always just has a leader. I don't care about his voting record being perfect. That statement doesn't even make sense. He votes along the lines of Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and the rest of the far left. The country will realize that soon enough. The left enjoys having these folks being their spokesmen. As for President, not a chance.

    Kidnappers are nice to children... Until they kidnap them.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    The country just needs a leader? The country always just has a leader. I don't care about his voting record being perfect. That statement doesn't even make sense. He votes along the lines of Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and the rest of the far left. The country will realize that soon enough. The left enjoys having these folks being their spokesmen. As for President, not a chance.

    Kidnappers are nice to children... Until they kidnap them.

    We need a leader that can bring the country back together, someone everyone can believe in. We don't have that now. I didn't know I would have to spell it out for you.
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    The only problem is that us intelligent folks don't care how he speaks. We look at his voting record.
    You know, I agree with you. I was apprehensive about Obama, so I looked at his voting record. Now I know I'll vote for him.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    The only problem is that us intelligent folks don't care how he speaks. We look at his voting record.

    But i thought he didn't have one? I can' figure out how political critics have it both ways... one republican strategist is on TV saying how he has the most liberal rating and voting record blah blah blah, and then the next rep guy says that we have no idea what he stands for. how can it be both?

    The republicans did it constantly to kerry... he would give an hour long speech on what he was going to do on an issue, then all night the talking points would be that he has no plan on that issue.

    And do you honestly think that 95% of the people who vote have any idea (except from commercial sound bites) have any idea what a candidate's voting record is?
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  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    RainDog wrote:
    You know, I agree with you. I was apprehensive about Obama, so I looked at his voting record. Now I know I'll vote for him.

    That's by far a better assessment than ledvedderman's. If he believes in what you believe, great. But atleast know what he stands for. Voting for someone simply because he speaks well and looks pretty is insane.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    blackredyellow wrote:
    But i thought he didn't have one? I can' figure out how political critics have it both ways... one republican strategist is on TV saying how he has the most liberal rating and voting record blah blah blah, and then the next rep guy says that we have no idea what he stands for. how can it be both?

    The republicans did it constantly to kerry... he would give an hour long speech on what he was going to do on an issue, then all night the talking points would be that he has no plan on that issue.

    And do you honestly think that 95% of the people who vote have any idea (except from commercial sound bites) have any idea what a candidate's voting record is?


    Because 95% of the voters are ignorant doesn't make it OK. I don't care what the "experts" on TV say. That's my opinion. Voting because of looks and speach is silly. Voting because you know where a candidate stands on issues is mere sanity.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    i've said it here before and i guess i'll repeat it. i'm in my mid thirties and havn't voted for anything since about 19. i'm registered independent or non partisan, but i will be reregistering democrat so i can vote for Obama in a primary. i'm strongly considering looking for a way to volunteer some time to helping with a campaign here locally if i can.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    That's by far a better assessment than ledvedderman's. If he believes in what you believe, great. But atleast know what he stands for. Voting for someone simply because he speaks well and looks pretty is insane.

    That's not MY position you bumbling bloke, I've known Obama before Obama was the "next big thing". I know his voting record, not only that I know his voting record in the Illinois Senate.

    All I am saying is that he gives people hope and feel like they can believe in this ship that is America. He gives them the feeling the ship ISN'T sinking, and that's a very powerful feeling to put in voters.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    someone post his voting record. is he really a far left guy? I thought he was a moderate
  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    ledvedderman wrote:
    That's not MY position you bumbling bloke, I've known Obama before Obama was the "next big thing". I know his voting record, not only that I know his voting record in the Illinois Senate.

    All I am saying is that he gives people hope and feel like they can believe in this ship that is America. He gives them the feeling the ship ISN'T sinking, and that's a very powerful feeling to put in voters.


    I for one don't believe the ship is sinking. So why should I vote for Obama?

    lol "bumbling bloke." Coooool......
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    jlew24asu wrote:
    someone post his voting record. is he really a far left guy? I thought he was a moderate

    This might help jlew

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Barack_Obama.htm
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    I for one don't believe the ship is sinking. So why should I vote for Obama?

    lol "bumbling bloke." Coooool......

    If you don't think the ship is sinking than maybe you just aren't opening your eyes wide enough. There isn't a lot going on in America right now to give people much pride in this country.
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  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    ledvedderman wrote:
    This might help jlew

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Barack_Obama.htm


    That's not a voting record.

    This is a voting record.

    http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BS030017
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    ledvedderman wrote:
    This might help jlew

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Barack_Obama.htm
    I was about to post the exact same site, but you beat me to it.

    jlew, according to On the Issues, he's a populist leaning liberal on the left side of moderate. From more than just his voting record, however, he earns the label "moderate" because of his willingness to work with those on the right for mutual gain.
  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    ledvedderman wrote:
    If you don't think the ship is sinking than maybe you just aren't opening your eyes wide enough. There isn't a lot going on in America right now to give people much pride in this country.

    In your opinion? Or what?

    Just call me an idiot if you want.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    Because 95% of the voters are ignorant doesn't make it OK. I don't care what the "experts" on TV say. That's my opinion. Voting because of looks and speach is silly. Voting because you know where a candidate stands on issues is mere sanity.


    I don't disagree with that at all... unfortunately as our recent past indicate, voting is mostly about looks and charisma. I'm not saying it's right, but that's how it is today.
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    was like a picture
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    That's not a voting record.

    This is a voting record.

    http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BS030017
    Actually, both sites list his voting record there, Mr. C. Dundee.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    In your opinion? Or what?

    Just call me an idiot if you want.

    I think when only 33% of the country approves of the job the President is doing, and when only 26% approve of the way his mess of a war is effecting our country, that leads me to believe the ship is sinking.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    The only problem is that us intelligent folks don't care how he speaks. We look at his voting record.
    Don't be too sure about that. Every opinion poll during the Reagan administration showed that the majority of the public disagreed with most of what Reagan was promoting, but they LOVED Ronnie.

    I'm pretty sure that if Obama wins, I won't have an "Obama-isms" calendar on my desk, and that's a step in the right direction :D
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    This might help jlew

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Barack_Obama.htm

    thanks vedd

    I like his stance on many issues, accept his policies on the economy and tax cuts. I disagree with him but, you're right, its time for change in this country. a breath of fresh air if you will. his inexperience bothers me however.

    this was interesting...
    We must make sure that Iraq is stable having gone in there. (Oct 2004)

    Bush is trying to do this same thing and being crucified for it.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    RainDog wrote:
    Actually, both sites list his voting record there, Mr. C. Dundee.

    Good Lord, can't even be happy with the information given to him.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    03/02/2006 USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization Y
    12/16/2005 USA PATRIOT and Terrorism Prevention Reauthorization N

    I gotta step out, but when I get back i'm gonna have to read up on these.
  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Good Lord, can't even be happy with the information given to him.

    Don't you understand yet that all I want to do is kill people? To hell with information.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
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