early in the debate, when she said she lived in texas early in her career signing people up to vote...she was signing them up to vote republican! she switched later when she realized being a dem was a better career move. just one example of her calculated politics. just like telling new yorkers she was part jewish when she ran for senate there. or how about trotting out a little mexican-american boy in a sombrero last week during a speech? she will do or say anything for your vote (watch her start crying in the coming weeks at critical times). i can't respect that.
haha. that shit's funny. i agree, she will do/say anything to get the nomination. she's the least sincere candidate on the ticket, imo. can you paste a link to any of the above information (e.g. working for the republican party, faking jewishness, trotting out a little mexican boy in a sombrero)? i would like to read this info. somewhere. thanks.
bill and hill, both of them will do what it takes to further their cause.
i lost all respect for bill when he said "i did not inhale"....that fact there proves to me that they will do what it takes.
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
another thing to keep in mind...rush, ann coulter and other right-wing nuts have said if she gets the nomination they're voting for her over mccain because she's more hawkish. look it up.
No, they aren't voting for her because she's more hawkish. McCain's stance on the war is the only thing Rush, et al agree with him on. He is a big-time war hawk.
In reality, they (say) they would vote for Hillary mostly as a protest against McCain ... he's not conservative enough on practically every other issue ... They feel like if he gets elected, the party of Reagan is dead. They would rather lose one election than lose the direction of the Republican party.
It has nothing to do with her stance on the war. It has everything to do with McCain's stances on everything else near and dear to a conservative's (tiny, black) heart.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
No, they aren't voting for her because she's more hawkish. McCain's stance on the war is the only thing Rush, et al agree with him on. He is a big-time war hawk.
In reality, they (say) they would vote for Hillary mostly as a protest against McCain ... he's not conservative enough on practically every other issue ... They feel like if he gets elected, the party of Reagan is dead. They would rather lose one election than lose the direction of the Republican party.
It has nothing to do with her stance on the war. It has everything to do with McCain's stances on everything else near and dear to a conservative's (tiny, black) heart.
And I honestly think that at least in Coulter's case, that she was doing it for attention and to get on the news.
And it is probably right wing talk radio's wet dream to have Hilary elected... their ratings will go back through the roof.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
And I honestly think that at least in Coulter's case, that she was doing it for attention and to get on the news.
No doubt about it. I guaran-goddamn-tee you she won't vote for Hillary. But it sure makes a nice headline when you're trying to steer your followers away from the evil McCain.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
Has anyone noticed how each of them speak? Its kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy. I noticed this last night a couple times.
Obama says "When I am president..."
Hilary says "I would (do whatever policy/procedure)...". The use of her word "would" almost implies "if". She should say things like "I will" if she wants to come off as a winner. IMO.
Weird how the media see's this. They seem to be saying that Hillary won but didnt do enough to land a knock out blow.
I have no idea what they're talking about. Obama spoke more elequently as always but he beat her on the issues as well.
She got hammered on her negative attack on him. She got hammered on the war. The only other highlight was when she spoke about how it was an honor to run next to him which in my opinion sounded like an audition for a VP nod. Also, Bill has been making a case lately that he has no more interest in being involved politically. I think those two things add up to Hillary trying to get on the ticket. She must really miss the White House LOL.
i lost all respect for bill when he said "i did not inhale"....that fact there proves to me that they will do what it takes.
Not trying to be a dickhead but I have to call you out on this statement. The culture of the political climate has changed a lot since '91. I think if Clinton was running today he would just say yo...I smoked a couple J's back in the day so what! So I mean honestly..can you really say you lost all respect for a politician who gave a politically correct answer to a question that has no bearing on what kind of president he would be? At least he acknowledged it in some way, Bush wont even talk about his drug use!
If you want to lose respect for politicians for doing the right thing politically even if it is morally wrong, then you should have no respect for any of these congressmen who gave Bush the yes vote on using military force in Iraq. Everyone did it because they knew that after 9/11 no political campaign could be sustained by a candidate who wasn't with the war effort and that was wrong.
Not trying to be a dickhead but I have to call you out on this statement. The culture of the political climate has changed a lot since '91. I think if Clinton was running today he would just say yo...I smoked a couple J's back in the day so what! So I mean honestly..can you really say you lost all respect for a politician who gave a politically correct answer to a question that has no bearing on what kind of president he would be? At least he acknowledged it in some way, Bush wont even talk about his drug use!
If you want to lose respect for politicians for doing the right thing politically even if it is morally wrong, then you should have no respect for any of these congressmen who gave Bush the yes vote on using military force in Iraq. Everyone did it because they knew that after 9/11 no political campaign could be sustained by a candidate who wasn't with the war effort and that was wrong.
i appreciate the "not trying to be a dickhead" warning. so i will use your phrase/warning. i am not trying to be a dickhead and i can say i lost all respect for bill when he said, "i did not inhale".
at the time, i looked at it this way. he was hanging out with his buddies, they passed him the smoke, he pretended to inhale so he would not look foolish amongst his peers.
i have no respect for that trait in a person. if he were with his "enemies" then sure, it would be a wise decision to "pretend" to inhale. not with your friends though.
i also acknowledge that i do not know all the facts.
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
at the time, i looked at it this way. he was hanging out with his buddies, they passed him the smoke, he pretended to inhale so he would not look foolish amongst his peers.
Wait? You really think he didn't inhale?
Do you also think he did not have sex with that woman Ms. Lewinsky?
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
Everyone did it because they knew that after 9/11 no political campaign could be sustained by a candidate who wasn't with the war effort and that was wrong.
And how did that work out for everyone?
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
dude, there really is no choice here. early in the debate, when she said she lived in texas early in her career signing people up to vote...she was signing them up to vote republican! she switched later when she realized being a dem was a better career move. just one example of her calculated politics. just like telling new yorkers she was part jewish when she ran for senate there. or how about trotting out a little mexican-american boy in a sombrero last week during a speech? she will do or say anything for your vote (watch her start crying in the coming weeks at critical times). i can't respect that.
another thing to keep in mind...rush, ann coulter and other right-wing nuts have said if she gets the nomination they're voting for her over mccain because she's more hawkish. look it up.
and you don't think obama would say anything, either? odd, when the war had support obama was pretty hawkish saying we needed to have a permanent presence in iraq to let "iran and syria know we're serious" then when public opinion changed so did his rhetoric
and what about that slumlord hillary brought up a few weeks ago??? obama claimed the only dealing he had w/ the guy was a case he worked on w/ several other lawyers...then it comes out obama bought his house from him or his wife for a good bit under market value and had other dealings!
and i didn't like his talk about health care saying "if a child doesn't have insurance under my plan it's b/c their parents were irresponsible" why not just cover children regardless??
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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i lost all respect for bill when he said "i did not inhale"....that fact there proves to me that they will do what it takes.
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I like the fact Obama has admitted to pot and cocaine use during his teen years... maybe other things... makes him a bit more human....
No, they aren't voting for her because she's more hawkish. McCain's stance on the war is the only thing Rush, et al agree with him on. He is a big-time war hawk.
In reality, they (say) they would vote for Hillary mostly as a protest against McCain ... he's not conservative enough on practically every other issue ... They feel like if he gets elected, the party of Reagan is dead. They would rather lose one election than lose the direction of the Republican party.
It has nothing to do with her stance on the war. It has everything to do with McCain's stances on everything else near and dear to a conservative's (tiny, black) heart.
for the least they could possibly do
And I honestly think that at least in Coulter's case, that she was doing it for attention and to get on the news.
And it is probably right wing talk radio's wet dream to have Hilary elected... their ratings will go back through the roof.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
No doubt about it. I guaran-goddamn-tee you she won't vote for Hillary. But it sure makes a nice headline when you're trying to steer your followers away from the evil McCain.
for the least they could possibly do
Obama says "When I am president..."
Hilary says "I would (do whatever policy/procedure)...". The use of her word "would" almost implies "if". She should say things like "I will" if she wants to come off as a winner. IMO.
I have no idea what they're talking about. Obama spoke more elequently as always but he beat her on the issues as well.
She got hammered on her negative attack on him. She got hammered on the war. The only other highlight was when she spoke about how it was an honor to run next to him which in my opinion sounded like an audition for a VP nod. Also, Bill has been making a case lately that he has no more interest in being involved politically. I think those two things add up to Hillary trying to get on the ticket. She must really miss the White House LOL.
Not trying to be a dickhead but I have to call you out on this statement. The culture of the political climate has changed a lot since '91. I think if Clinton was running today he would just say yo...I smoked a couple J's back in the day so what! So I mean honestly..can you really say you lost all respect for a politician who gave a politically correct answer to a question that has no bearing on what kind of president he would be? At least he acknowledged it in some way, Bush wont even talk about his drug use!
If you want to lose respect for politicians for doing the right thing politically even if it is morally wrong, then you should have no respect for any of these congressmen who gave Bush the yes vote on using military force in Iraq. Everyone did it because they knew that after 9/11 no political campaign could be sustained by a candidate who wasn't with the war effort and that was wrong.
at the time, i looked at it this way. he was hanging out with his buddies, they passed him the smoke, he pretended to inhale so he would not look foolish amongst his peers.
i have no respect for that trait in a person. if he were with his "enemies" then sure, it would be a wise decision to "pretend" to inhale. not with your friends though.
i also acknowledge that i do not know all the facts.
Wait? You really think he didn't inhale?
Do you also think he did not have sex with that woman Ms. Lewinsky?
for the least they could possibly do
And how did that work out for everyone?
for the least they could possibly do
and you don't think obama would say anything, either? odd, when the war had support obama was pretty hawkish saying we needed to have a permanent presence in iraq to let "iran and syria know we're serious" then when public opinion changed so did his rhetoric
and what about that slumlord hillary brought up a few weeks ago??? obama claimed the only dealing he had w/ the guy was a case he worked on w/ several other lawyers...then it comes out obama bought his house from him or his wife for a good bit under market value and had other dealings!
and i didn't like his talk about health care saying "if a child doesn't have insurance under my plan it's b/c their parents were irresponsible" why not just cover children regardless??
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way