Hillary Clinton CNN Debate
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...business in the front, party in the back.
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A Lynard Skynard shirt is the only thing missing.
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I can't vote for a president with a mullet.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
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Tell that to Billy Ray Cyrus...
15 years ago, he would not have got my vote, but now that he's got a flat iron and a soul patch he'd get my vote in a heartbeat.
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DITTO.
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO AWAY ALREADY.
I think that Obama wins this debate because she didn''t do enough. She tried to pound him on health care and could not deliver. Obama won easily on the Iraq war. Besides that they sure agreed a lot for a campaign with 12 days to go.
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But ... I was just on another message board where the consensus was Hill-Bill had wiped the floor with Barry. So I thought I'd see what the Moving Train thought.
Funny how two different groups can see the same debate totally differently.
for the least they could possibly do
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A bit hypocritical after her running with the Obama plagiarism bullshit.
She's done.
Can Obama woo Latinos away from her? Because if not, she wins Texas. And if she wins Texas, she's not done.
Food for thought.
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I saw that as well. She mentioned John Edwards a couple of times tonight. She is really trying to land his support. She will probably get it too. However, it might help her in Ohio but not in Texas.
Obama is just now starting to spend time and money in TX and OH. The latest polls have them tied in Texas, and Clinton only up 7 in Ohio. If I am Mark Penn on the Clinton camp I am very worried. When Obama spends time in a state his numbers skyrocket and right now you cannot go super negative because it did not work in SC or WI, and you would be giving John McCain material for the general election.
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He won the immigration debate imo when he talked about passing the grant to allow children of immigrants that have grown up in America to have access to healthcare and education, and not wanting 2 classes of people.
Hillary offered nothing new. The same old "I'm ready to lead on day one" and just reciting her resume when asked if Obama wasn't ready on day one. Obama came back with the vote on Iraq, how he already has shown commander in chief leadership where Hillary hasn't.
The "change you can xerox" line was terrible. Bill pretty much said today that if Obama wins either Texas or Ohio that Hillary would be finished.
It's really not about who you think won what. A bunch of people Hillary is counting on to carry her probably weren't even watching the debate.
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Clinton has lost 11 consecutive states. The 'people she has counted on' in the most recent elections have been shifting toward Obama. He's chipping away at her base and that may include part of the Latino vote if the trend continues.
At this point I kinda hope she stays in it because by the time she's done he will then make McCain his little bitch. Hehehehe!
Which brings us back full circle here.
Will he grab a larger portion of the Latino vote or won't he? I'm not saying he won't or can't ... just that's what it's going to take.
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It's funny how your perspective can color things. A lot of people seem to have scored this one for Hill-Bill.
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No one who watched the same debate i saw. At one point, she got booed for fuck's sake.
Who?
He will grab a larger portion than he's been getting. He may not carry the Latino vote, but i think he will get enough. i think the Latino vote, where it is indeed significant in Texas, is a bit overstated. From what i understand it is expected to be about 1/4 of the electorate. Not only that, it is concentrated in areas that aren't exactly delegate rich according to Texas primary policy. What that means is that 3/4 of the electorate is other than Latino, and in more "delegate rich" portions of the state. Besides Obama has been chipping away at the Latino vote. If clinton carries Texas, it won't be by much and she can't afford to split delegates.
Yeah, he doesn't have to win the Latinos outright. Just grab a large segment of them. It will be interesting to see if he can pull it off.
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In my opinion, Hillary really kicked ass.......
I had decided on voting Democratic / Obama since yesterday after seeing his care and concern for his fellow man, the fainting spells (he even offered water from behind the poteum to one woman)
I know all my Ron Paul friends will say , "Man, you're a Traitor"
I have always voted Democratic since I was born, I voted for Dukakis, Clinton, Gore and Kerry too. (showing my age now)
I registered Rep just to vote for Ron Paul, but he's got no chance at all (btw Texas is an open primary, I can vote in the Dem or Rep Primary, but only one)
soooooooooooo it's down to Hillary and Obama now
McCain is not a choice, or even the Huck
from the highlights I saw after i got home from killing brain cells Hillary seemed to really impress me, maybe I killed too many brain cells, hell I don't know
but you never know, I may still Vote for Obama
I just don't fucking know
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