The US and War
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there is too much money to be made in war ... times of peace are bad for the economy ... nothing like a good ole arms race to profit from ... when will people finally put all the pieces together (failure in afghanistan; fraud war in iraq; abandoning world treaties or various arms; backing out of the nuclear proliferation treaty; etc...) ... the evidence is overwhelming ...
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070531/ts_nm/russia_usa_missile_dc_2;_ylt=ArRynPAadGmftCqTNmx29JH7kPUI
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia's test firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday was in response to U.S. steps that have sparked an arms race and undermined world security, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday.
"Our American partners have left the ABM (Anti-Ballistic Missile) Treaty. We have warned them then that we will come out with a response to maintain the strategic balance in the world," Putin told a news conference.
"We conducted a test of a new strategic ballistic missile with multiple warheads, and of a new cruise missile, and will continue to improve our resources."
"We are not the initiators of this new round of the arms race," said Putin. "(Our partners) are stuffing eastern Europe with new weapons. A new base in Bulgaria, another in Romania, a site in Poland, radar in the Czech Republic . . . what are we supposed to do? We cannot just observe all this."
Russia test-fired a new intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday featuring multiple warheads that senior officials said could pierce any missile defense system, including the planned U.S. shield in Europe.
Russia says the U.S. missile defense shield is a threat to its security and will change the strategic balance in Europe, but Washington dismisses such fears, saying the shield is intended to counter "rogue states."
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070531/ts_nm/russia_usa_missile_dc_2;_ylt=ArRynPAadGmftCqTNmx29JH7kPUI
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia's test firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday was in response to U.S. steps that have sparked an arms race and undermined world security, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday.
"Our American partners have left the ABM (Anti-Ballistic Missile) Treaty. We have warned them then that we will come out with a response to maintain the strategic balance in the world," Putin told a news conference.
"We conducted a test of a new strategic ballistic missile with multiple warheads, and of a new cruise missile, and will continue to improve our resources."
"We are not the initiators of this new round of the arms race," said Putin. "(Our partners) are stuffing eastern Europe with new weapons. A new base in Bulgaria, another in Romania, a site in Poland, radar in the Czech Republic . . . what are we supposed to do? We cannot just observe all this."
Russia test-fired a new intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday featuring multiple warheads that senior officials said could pierce any missile defense system, including the planned U.S. shield in Europe.
Russia says the U.S. missile defense shield is a threat to its security and will change the strategic balance in Europe, but Washington dismisses such fears, saying the shield is intended to counter "rogue states."
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I wonder when the rhetoric that goes hand in hand with Iran will start about Russia. Oh wait, they can do something about it.
could be the most ignorant economic statement I have ever heard.
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let me know if it is indeed the most ignorant ...
i actually meant to type times of peace are bad for business although there are definitely theories associated with wars and their ties to economic prosperity ... so, to some thinkers - not actually far from the truth ...
let us know if you have anything to add to this escalation in the arms race around the world led by your homeland ...
what arms race?
http://www.rediff.com/money/2005/jul/14perfin.htm
did you read the article?
"We are not the initiators of this new round of the arms race," said Putin
uhhh ... pentagon spending has skyrocketed ... not just in iraq ... in all aspects ... they've pulled out of all the arms treaties ... the US are developing more nukes and they are building bases everywhere ...
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Please explain how Kanada (a peaceful nation) is doing so well economically?
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which is exactly what bushy and the war machine has done...
maybe he sees us militarizing space and doesn't want just our weapons poitning down at everybody?
what was this administration's excuse for breaking the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and the ucbm treaty as well as being against the nuke test ban, chemical and biological weapons ban.....?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Carry on ...
What?
oil is how many bucks a barrel?
if you follow the thread - the crux of the issue isn't that war is good for the economy ... which i don't necessarily agree with (typo as mentioned earlier) ... rather that there is a lot of money to be made in war for certain interest groups and it plays in their favour when foreign policy advocates instability in regions and the supposed requirement to proliferate new weaponry ...
uhhh ... who's saying what putin is doing is a good thing??
who was defending it?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
"Putin? Oh yeah. He's eroded democracy in Russia, he's a war monger ... Just look at Chechnya!, he's increased military spending ..."
"Still though, its all Bush's fault. I only disapprove when its Americans doing this sort of thing. ... The Russians? I mean really now. What do you expect?"
yes, putin is a horrible person, especially what they did in chechnya and that theatre....and i disapprove of what he's doing...but how can you tell someone no when you are doing it at a far larger scale?
seems a bit hypocritical, is all
but hey, he's got terrorism to balme now, he doesn't need to falsify intel like reagan did in the 80's w/ russia to get more military funding
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
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when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
i would probably agree
the defence industry is definitely the engine behind bush's actions ...
as for the rest of your commentary - i think it's sad ...
no one was, el...
when people can't make a good point or respond to a valid comment, they make things up, thus causing those who were correct to begin with to respond the the made-up comment...
you see, putin is basically doing the same thing that bushy and company have been doing for years, and when that is pointed out, the obtuse will somehow see this statement as being in support of putin....when in reality it is not...
Why in the fuck do we have to do everything? Why do we need missile defense systems in Europe? Like we can't fire nuclear missiles from our own country? Why are we the ones "saving the world" from Iran's nuclear program?
Kinda wish we'd just back off of everything a little bit...
Do you still think america is saving the world? wow
most realise they're doing nothing but fucking it up more than it already was.
PJ and friends are the U.S. too
did you read his post...?
he didn't say he personally thought the US was saving the world...
we share the same wish!
what are the majority of US people doing about it?
yes i did, yes he did, guess its your turn