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IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,725
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/nader_launches.html

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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    definitely a shot across the bow for Clintonites
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    it would give those who realize that the corporate candidates are just that someone to vote for ...
  • DPrival78DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    nader/paul '08!
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    godpt3 wrote:
    definitely a shot across the bow for Clintonites
    I thought that he endorsed Edwards. :confused:
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,725
    tybird wrote:
    I thought that he endorsed Edwards. :confused:

    Whose not in the race any more....

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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Indifference wrote:
    Whose not in the race any more....
    True....but why does directly effect the Clintons???? Since they (it?) did not have Nader's support to begin with....
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    tybird wrote:
    True....but why does directly effect the Clintons???? Since they (it?) did not have Nader's support to begin with....

    My guess is that Nader will only move past the exploration stage if, and only if, Hillary gets the nomination. If Obama gets the nod, I imagine Nader will lay low. At least I hope so.
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    godpt3 wrote:
    My guess is that Nader will only move past the exploration stage if, and only if, Hillary gets the nomination. If Obama gets the nod, I imagine Nader will lay low. At least I hope so.

    me too...
    10.31.93 / 10.1.94 / 6.24.95 / 11.4.95 / 10.19-20.96 / 7.16.98 / 7.21.98 / 10.31.00 /8.4.01 Nader Rally/ 10.21.01 / 12.8-9.02 / 6.01.03 / 9.1.05 / 7.15-16,18.06 / 7.20.06 / 7.22-23.06 / Lolla 07
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    godpt3 wrote:
    My guess is that Nader will only move past the exploration stage if, and only if, Hillary gets the nomination. If Obama gets the nod, I imagine Nader will lay low. At least I hope so.
    Let us hope on that one. :)
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    godpt3 wrote:
    My guess is that Nader will only move past the exploration stage if, and only if, Hillary gets the nomination. If Obama gets the nod, I imagine Nader will lay low. At least I hope so.

    He pretty much blasted them both in his statements. As an official candidate he will only hurt the democats chances (he would be beating the death gong for hillary in a general election). If hillary is nominated, and Ralph Nader jumps in as a candidate, we may as well skip the election and jump right to the republican inauguration. He knows this. Lets not kid ourselves.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    cornnifer wrote:
    If hillary is nominated, and Ralph Nader jumps in as a candidate, Nader will probably turn up dead, a la Vince Foster.

    Fixed it.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Fixed it.

    Thanks. Good lookin' out. :D
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    I saw (from the emails I still get from the Mass Green Party I used to be active in) that his name was already on the ballot for the Green primary... along with 5 other candidates. So I'm a little confused as to what this is all about.

    He needs to stop running for President. This is his 4th (technically 5th if you count his write-in candidacy in the '92 New Hampshire primary) run for President, and it's ridiculous. His 2000 campaign made sense. But since then, he's just been ruining his own legacy. He should find someone to support and stick with his public advocacy.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    cornnifer wrote:
    If hillary is nominated, and Ralph Nader jumps in as a candidate, we may as well skip the election and jump right to the republican inauguration..

    Why? Nobody is going to vote for him.
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    MasterFramer wrote:
    me too...
    Huh? I fucking hate the irony of this situation. Ralph Nader has dedicated his life to improve the lives of the average human. Yet people see him as some sort of kook...I don't get it. If "the people" had any fucking brains whatsoever, they'd back the guy who's backed them his whole life. It's pure insanity that he's not supported by the masses.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    Why? Nobody is going to vote for him.

    Definitely not in large numbers. But SOME will and those who do would not have otherwise voted for the republican candidate. Its 2000 all over again.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    I saw (from the emails I still get from the Mass Green Party I used to be active in) that his name was already on the ballot for the Green primary... along with 5 other candidates. So I'm a little confused as to what this is all about.

    He needs to stop running for President. This is his 4th (technically 5th if you count his write-in candidacy in the '92 New Hampshire primary) run for President, and it's ridiculous. His 2000 campaign made sense. But since then, he's just been ruining his own legacy. He should find someone to support and stick with his public advocacy.
    No, he should stand for what he believes in and try to make positive change. That's what he's doing. I cannot believe he doesn't get more support. It's one of the best testaments of American ignorance.
  • LightYears55LightYears55 Posts: 47
    Eliot Rosewater wrote:
    Huh? I fucking hate the irony of this situation. Ralph Nader has dedicated his life to improve the lives of the average human. Yet people see him as some sort of kook...I don't get it. If "the people" had any fucking brains whatsoever, they'd back the guy who's backed them his whole life. It's pure insanity that he's not supported by the masses.



    great post
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    cornnifer wrote:
    Definitely not in large numbers. But SOME will and those who do would not have otherwise voted for the republican candidate. Its 2000 all over again.

    he won't get anywhere near the 2.8 million votes he got in 2000. in 2004 he got about 400,000 or 0.38% of the vote and he won't get close to that either. people are tired of him. that doesn't mean they don't want the kind of change he would bring.
  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    cornnifer wrote:
    Definitely not in large numbers. But SOME will and those who do would not have otherwise voted for the republican candidate. Its 2000 all over again.

    Don't worry. Any Nader voters will be offset by Ron Paul freaks. :D
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    cornnifer wrote:
    If hillary is nominated, and Ralph Nader jumps in as a candidate, we may as well skip the election and jump right to the republican inauguration. He knows this. Lets not kid ourselves.

    If Hillary gets nominated, the GOP's gonna win, regardless. That one's pretty obvious.
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

    http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    godpt3 wrote:
    If Hillary gets nominated, the GOP's gonna win, regardless. That one's pretty obvious.
    ...and ain't it funny that about a year ago or so, the 2008 election was supposed to a slam-dunk for the Democrats.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    tybird wrote:
    ...and ain't it funny that about a year ago or so, the 2008 election was supposed to a slam-dunk for the Democrats.

    And 2004 was supposed to be the start of a decades-long reign for the Republicans, in both the Oval Office and congress.

    Funny how quickly the winds can shift.

    That said, the democrats can probably regain the white house if they nominate obama.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • dontloseyourheatdontloseyourheat Posts: 483
    Read Up
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Ralph_Nader.htm

    Anyone that cares for the people and is willing to stand up to corporate interests is good in my books.

    To dismiss him without researching his policies is ignorant and selfish.
    "Don't lose your inner heat...ever" - EV 5/13/06
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    dontloseyourheat wrote:
    Read Up
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Ralph_Nader.htm

    Anyone that cares for the people and is willing to stand up to corporate interests is good in my books.

    To dismiss him without researching his policies is ignorant and selfish.
    Amen, sister. Americans are the epitome of ignorance. That's the only explanation for the irrational behavior of the average american towards Ralph Nader. It's fucking insane. Nothing less than pure and true insanity.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Eliot Rosewater wrote:
    Amen, sister. Americans are the epitome of ignorance. That's the only explanation for the irrational behavior of the average american towards Ralph Nader. It's fucking insane. Nothing less than pure and true insanity.

    What if we aren't ignorant, but still disagree with many of his policies and ideas?

    I like that he's passionate. I like that he runs as a 3rd party candidate to further discussion. I'm a fan of 3rd parties and almost always vote Libertarian. I agree with many of his social issues. I disagree with most of his economic policies and ideas. He's a collectivist, and I'm an individualist, so we're bound to disagree on a lot of fundamental issues. I would hope people would be allowed to disagree with Nader without being labeled insane.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Naders best chance right now, would be requesting to run as Obamas VP.. how cool would that be!
  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    Indifference wrote:
    http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/nader_launches.html
    ugh what a waste
    Let's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Eliot Rosewater wrote:
    Amen, sister. Americans are the epitome of ignorance. That's the only explanation for the irrational behavior of the average american towards Ralph Nader. It's fucking insane. Nothing less than pure and true insanity.
    :rolleyes:
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    jeffbr wrote:
    What if we aren't ignorant, but still disagree with many of his policies and ideas?

    I like that he's passionate. I like that he runs as a 3rd party candidate to further discussion. I'm a fan of 3rd parties and almost always vote Libertarian. I agree with many of his social issues. I disagree with most of his economic policies and ideas. He's a collectivist, and I'm an individualist, so we're bound to disagree on a lot of fundamental issues. I would hope people would be allowed to disagree with Nader without being labeled insane.
    Obviously not EVERYONE in this country is ignorant, but generally, I stand by my post. You're obviously an exception. Yes, it's okay to disagree with Nader. But most people just see him as some third party kook for absolutely no valid reason.
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