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Bush's odd behavior on the morning of 9/11

El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
edited October 2006 in A Moving Train
a short video, just under 16 1/2 min. some of it seems a stretch but it does bring up some very good points...like the timeline of hte phone bridge between the military and faa over the hijackings, bush saying in public he knew of the planes BEFORE he went into that classroom, how it took 411 days to appoin someone to lead an investigation into 9/11 <henry kissinger to boot!> then taking another 20 days <making it 431 days> to appoint someone else as well as their conflicts of interest in the investigation. also one of the co-chairs had found no malfeasance in the 4 previous commissions he served which included iran/contra and the october surprise....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6645678004850801305&q=9%2F11
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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  • JackhammerJackhammer Posts: 122
    And here was I thinking that it was widely accepted that the Junior admnistration was lying from the beginning!

    Junior already got himself ready way before he got in charge.

    Just look at his work timeline.

    He's a liar, a cheater, and probably even more. But then again, it makes him a perfect US president ;)

    Juuuuuust kiddin'
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  • Smellyman2Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    The whole program is very interesting.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6529813972926262623&q=the+great+conspiracy
  • sonicreducersonicreducer Posts: 713
    the last 5 minutes or so are the most interesting,...

    i haven't ever searched for sources relating to the way the commission was appointed and how the white house handled it.

    sounds like bullshit to me,...
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  • TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
    very interesting, I had no idea that he had prior knowledge before he even went into the classroom, thanks for the post kabong!
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  • JackhammerJackhammer Posts: 122
    They should call a warren comission II, if you ask me ;)
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,946
    "Hey, there are some straws! Let's grasp for them."
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,946
    TheGossman wrote:
    very interesting, I had no idea that he had prior knowledge before he even went into the classroom, thanks for the post kabong!

    I think I, and about 90% of everyone else knew within a few days of 9/11 that the President knew about the plane crash before he went into the classroom. News, this is not.
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    I think I, and about 90% of everyone else knew within a few days of 9/11 that the President knew about the plane crash before he went into the classroom. News, this is not.

    Then why the need for the act?
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,946
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Then why the need for the act?

    Didn't he say in the video he knew before going into the classroom? You tell me why the need for the act? What would it benefit him? Also, could there be a cheesier video?
  • JackhammerJackhammer Posts: 122
    My motivation is purely egoistic ;)

    I'm an anarch at heart, and just want to know who's to blame. I somehow feel concerned about what happened to those people.

    I don't know... Like, it's a major tragedy in human history, and maybe that, trying to find the truth is my way to pay tribute, or something like that...

    But not only that event, also what went on after it. everything's linked.


    *sigh* I feel like Mulder ;)
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  • denverfandenverfan Posts: 218
    cant you people focus on things much more important than shit that doesnt mean a thing in the present tense...how about you focus on Nebular Accretion...it will prove far more productive in the grand scheme of things
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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Didn't he say in the video he knew before going into the classroom? You tell me why the need for the act? What would it benefit him? Also, could there be a cheesier video?

    and how did he say he knew before going into the classroom? something about watching the first plane hit...which video of the first plane hitting didn't surface until the next day...i wonder how he could've seen it?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
    I just don't know how to feel after watching the video, I was already angry after seeing footage that he didn't do shit when he was told the country was under attack, he just sat there like a deer in headlights, but now I'm even more confused, he says he saw the first plane hit before entering the classroom, and just figured it was because of a bad pilot....right! And to the prick thats telling us to quit living in the past, thats whats wrong with so many Americans, so many people have forgotten all about 9/11, its a day I will never forget, and I think it made everyone appreciate life a little more, why don't you go watch American Idol!
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  • Carlos DCarlos D Posts: 638
    TheGossman wrote:
    I just don't know how to feel after watching the video, I was already angry after seeing footage that he didn't do shit when he was told the country was under attack, he just sat there like a deer in headlights, but now I'm even more confused, he says he saw the first plane hit before entering the classroom, and just figured it was because of a bad pilot....right! And to the prick thats telling us to quit living in the past, thats whats wrong with so many Americans, so many people have forgotten all about 9/11, its a day I will never forget, and I think it made everyone appreciate life a little more, why don't you go watch American Idol!

    And what would you have done,genius? ''Oh My God kids,run!run!run!We're under attack!aaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!It's all over!We're doomed!'' Gee,your president behaves like a president and,'he didn't do shit.' This isnt' a movie,he wasn't just gonna over react in front of school children. I mean really the only person you should be angry at is yourself for believing this poop.
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  • Puck78Puck78 Posts: 737
    Carlos D wrote:
    And what would you have done,genius? ''Oh My God kids,run!run!run!We're under attack!aaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!It's all over!We're doomed!'' Gee,your president behaves like a president and,'he didn't do shit.' This isnt' a movie,he wasn't just gonna over react in front of school children. I mean really the only person you should be angry at is yourself for believing this poop.
    your signature tells a lot about your attitude toward your president, i suppose...
    Getting out of the (or not even entering it) room and facing the problem (not screaming like you said) would have been more a president reaction than stay there and fake that nothing is happening.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
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  • Carlos DCarlos D Posts: 638
    Puck78 wrote:
    your signature tells a lot about your attitude toward your president, i suppose...
    Getting out of the (or not even entering it) room and facing the problem (not screaming like you said) would have been more a president reaction than stay there and fake that nothing is happening.

    As a relatively logical person I must state that I am in know way a fan of George Bush.But let's face it,Americans have become the laughing stock of the world with these conspiracy theories.
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  • TheGossmanTheGossman Posts: 1,120
    Carlos D wrote:
    And what would you have done,genius? ''Oh My God kids,run!run!run!We're under attack!aaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!It's all over!We're doomed!'' Gee,your president behaves like a president and,'he didn't do shit.' This isnt' a movie,he wasn't just gonna over react in front of school children. I mean really the only person you should be angry at is yourself for believing this poop.

    I don't know what I would have done, but then again, I'm not the fuckin president, believe what poop? The president even stated himself that he saw the first plane hit the tower, and that he didn't do anything. He also didn't have Karl Rove there to hold his hand. I'm not saying I believe all these conspiracies, I just think that our president is a moron, plain and simple.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Someone needs to call the Hardley boys in on this one..

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=dIpIomv5TP0
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Someone needs to call the Hardley boys in on this one..

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=dIpIomv5TP0

    Getting your debate tactics and opinions from the guys at South Park....how cute.
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  • SweetHarmonicsSweetHarmonics Posts: 290
    I like the thought police reaction of a few posters in this thread. They seem to be threatened by this type of discussion, like Bush is somehow above reproach in all of this.

    Bush obviously knew before hand, hence the non-surprise after he was informed of the events taking place. Why didn't the Secret Service immediately rush him out of there after it was obvious than an attack was underway? It's as if they knew he wasn't at risk, no other explanation for it considering their protocol on handling threats of that nature. Quite a glaring contradiction to say the least.

    And on the topic of the commission, why did it take Bush and Cheney so long to consent to testify? They stonewalled every effort to get a fact-finding mission going and after finally agreeing to testify they wanted to do it at the same time. They obviously did not feel comfortable discussing that day without being able to corroborate their testimony to fit whatever the other said.

    It's all just suspicious as hell and some people still wonder why these kinds of discussions are rampant? Get out of the tank already.
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  • denverfandenverfan Posts: 218
    SweetHarmonics wrote:
    I like the thought police reaction of a few posters in this thread. They seem to be threatened by this type of discussion, like Bush is somehow above reproach in all of this.

    Bush obviously knew before hand, hence the non-surprise after he was informed of the events taking place. Why didn't the Secret Service immediately rush him out of there after it was obvious than an attack was underway? It's as if they knew he wasn't at risk, no other explanation for it considering their protocol on handling threats of that nature. Quite a glaring contradiction to say the least.

    And on the topic of the commission, why did it take Bush and Cheney so long to consent to testify? They stonewalled every effort to get a fact-finding mission going and after finally agreeing to testify they wanted to do it at the same time. They obviously did not feel comfortable discussing that day without being able to corroborate their testimony to fit whatever the other said.

    It's all just suspicious as hell and some people still wonder why these kinds of discussions are rampant? Get out of the tank already.
    Bush new before hand...what the fuck!! Please...ever experience the state of shock before!
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  • JackhammerJackhammer Posts: 122
    I also think, there's way too much suspiscion in the air, that's not normal.

    Bush reaction is also not normal, as the rest of his admin.
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  • Will1659Will1659 Posts: 51
    This crap about "why didn't the secret service rush him out of that school" has been rehashed so many times and people never seem to get it. The president's schedule is worked out very far in advance for these types of public events. The secret service does a lot of advance work checking out a place, making sure it is secure, and making plans to keep it secure while the president is there. That school was the safest, most stable place the president could have been right at that moment. They were in control. There was no reason to, and maybe even some reasons not to rush him out of there onto the highways that they didn't have that kind of control over yet. If you look hard enough you can probably create a conspiracy in anything, but that doesn't make it real.
  • Paint a Picture....Paint a Picture.... Posts: 88
    Carlos D wrote:
    And what would you have done,genius? ''Oh My God kids,run!run!run!We're under attack!aaaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!It's all over!We're doomed!'' Gee,your president behaves like a president and,'he didn't do shit.' This isnt' a movie,he wasn't just gonna over react in front of school children. I mean really the only person you should be angry at is yourself for believing this poop.

    Carlos u always seem to pop up into a debate and throw some sort of childish, sarcasm without making any relevant arguments, its almost like ur an 18 yr old kid from ireland thinking hes a worldly wise elder but completely missing the point?! (yeah there are profiles)
    As for this debate, well i think most would know my view by now.
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  • Smellyman2Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    Will1659 wrote:
    This crap about "why didn't the secret service rush him out of that school" has been rehashed so many times and people never seem to get it. The president's schedule is worked out very far in advance for these types of public events. The secret service does a lot of advance work checking out a place, making sure it is secure, and making plans to keep it secure while the president is there. That school was the safest, most stable place the president could have been right at that moment. They were in control. There was no reason to, and maybe even some reasons not to rush him out of there onto the highways that they didn't have that kind of control over yet. If you look hard enough you can probably create a conspiracy in anything, but that doesn't make it real.

    The president is always in safest place, but when there is an attack they always move. You sitll don't want to be in a known location. Cheney was, according to him, immediately swept away. Doing something is better than doing nothing.

    I would like to think that in times of unprecedented devastation in the US that we would have a President who is able to excuse himself in front of a classroom of elementary students, but I guess that is too much to ask
  • Carlos DCarlos D Posts: 638
    Paint a Picture.... wrote:
    Carlos u always seem to pop up into a debate and throw some sort of childish, sarcasm without making any relevant arguments, its almost like ur an 18 yr old kid from ireland thinking hes a worldly wise elder but completely missing the point?! (yeah there are profiles)
    As for this debate, well i think most would know my view by now.

    My guess is you're just some delusional nerd with too much free time and too little common sense.None of the arguments you or any of the other nutjobs on this message board have put forward are credible nor are they logical.Is it really implausible to think you might be wrong on this?
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Jackhammer wrote:
    I also think, there's way too much suspiscion in the air, that's not normal.

    Bush reaction is also not normal, as the rest of his admin.


    not normal? what would have been a normal reation? wtf does that mean? must mean he knew. theres no other explaination
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Smellyman wrote:
    The president is always in safest place, but when there is an attack they always move. You sitll don't want to be in a known location. Cheney was, according to him, immediately swept away. Doing something is better than doing nothing.

    Cheney also was in Washington DC, at his desk and one minute later then pentagon was hit. and he was moved 5 minutes after the air traffic controllers at dulles saw an airplane flying east (towards washington) at a high rate of speed. It doesn't take a genius to think that maybe this plane is going to hit somewhere sensitive. I'm sure if the controllers in FL had seen something Bush would've been gone in a heart beat. I'm not defending him staying and reading to the kids, but you can't compare how they treated cheney and bush. And b/c he didn't react as quickly as you'd like (even though he was being kept informed...and he doesn't have the benefit of hindsight, like we all do) that doesn't mean he knew about it or there is something shady going on.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    SweetHarmonics wrote:
    I like the thought police reaction of a few posters in this thread. They seem to be threatened by this type of discussion, like Bush is somehow above reproach in all of this.

    Bush obviously knew before hand, hence the non-surprise after he was informed of the events taking place. Why didn't the Secret Service immediately rush him out of there after it was obvious than an attack was underway? It's as if they knew he wasn't at risk, no other explanation for it considering their protocol on handling threats of that nature. Quite a glaring contradiction to say the least.
    .

    Obvious he knew before? based on what? that he didnt jump up and scream in front of some young children, AMERICA IS UDER ATTACK GET UNDER YOUR DESKS! would that have been acceptable? or then you would say its obvious he was acting, trying to pretend he didnt know. simply amazes me that someone would believe that.
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