'US, Israel planned Middle East war'

El_Kabong

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Middle_East/0,,2-10-2075_1981865,00.html

New York - The US government was closely involved in the planning of Israel's military operations against Islamic militant group Hezbollah even before the July 12 kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers, The New Yorker magazine reported in its latest issue.

The kidnapping triggered a month-long Israeli operation in South Lebanon that is expected to come to an end on Monday.

But Pulitzer Prize-winning US journalist Seymour Hersh writes that President George W Bush and vice president Dick Cheney were convinced that a successful Israeli bombing campaign against Hezbollah could ease Israel's security concerns and also serve as a prelude to a potential US pre-emptive attack to destroy Iran's nuclear installations.

Citing an unnamed Middle East expert with knowledge of the current thinking of the Israeli and US governments, Israel had devised a plan for attacking Hezbollah - and shared it with Bush administration officials - well before the July 12 kidnappings.

The expert added that the White House had several reasons for supporting a bombing campaign, the report said.

If there was to be a military option against Iran, it had to get rid of the weapons Hezbollah could use in a potential retaliation against Israel, Hersh writes.

Citing a US government consultant with close ties to Israel, Hersh also reports that earlier this summer, before the Hezbollah kidnappings, several Israeli officials visited Washington "to get a green light" for a bombing operation following a Hezbollah provocation, and "to find out how much the United States would bear".

"The Israelis told us it would be a cheap war with many benefits," the magazine quotes the consultant as saying. "Why oppose it? We'll be able to hunt down and bomb missiles, tunnels, and bunkers from the air. It would be a demo for Iran."

US government officials have denied the charges.

Nonetheless, Hersh writes, a former senior intelligence official says some officers serving with the Joint Chiefs of Staff remain deeply concerned that the administration will have a far more positive assessment of the air campaign than they should.

"There is no way that (defence secretary Donald) Rumsfeld and Cheney will draw the right conclusion about this," the report quotes the former official as saying. "When the smoke clears, they'll say it was a success, and they'll draw reinforcement for their plan to attack Iran."

Byrnzie

"US government officials have denied the charges."

No way?

darkcrow

no wonder israel has fucked up, they asked the americans for help....

monkey spanker

wow, so the country that had been getting attacked by missles had a plan to fight back. what assholes.

PaperPlates

Thanks for the newsflash. Also in the news today, the sun is bright, the sky is blue, and dogs have hair. Weather at ten.

















Have you posted any articles in regards to Iran's involevment in all this yet KabonG?

darkcrow

PaperPlates wrote:

Have you posted any articles in regards to Iran's involevment in all this yet KabonG?

BBC news has reported that Israel had asked the white house for permission to attack lebenon months before the two soldiers were kidnapped. the americans saw an attack on lebenon/hezbullah integral in order to justify an attack on iran.

Byrnzie

Here's the full story:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060821fa_fact

my2hands

PaperPlates wrote:

Thanks for the newsflash. Also in the news today, the sun is bright, the sky is blue, and dogs have hair. Weather at ten.

















Have you posted any articles in regards to Iran's involevment in all this yet KabonG?

he is not iranian, he is an american...so i think he has every right to question HIS countries invlovement in this current cluster fuck we call the "mid-east crisis"

thankyougrandma

US govt. probably have pre-made plans of invasion for every country in the world, including Canada...

Eliot Rosewater

thankyougrandma wrote:

US govt. probably have pre-made plans of invasion for every country in the world, including Canada...

It's sad but you're probably right. And I'm not one bit surprised by Sy Hersh's report. With the administration seemingly hell-bent on bombing (possibly nuking) Iran then I had already thought that this may have been a build up to attack Iran.

farfromglorified

Do you mean to tell me that a nation we grant $2b in aid to every year and have extremely close political ties with shared information with us about a desire to destroy a terrorist group and their plans to do so?????? I'm completely shocked. Also, apparently such an event can literally erase a kidnapping of Israeli soldiers. This information has changed my life.

surferdude

don't gimme no wrote:

It's sad but you're probably right. And I'm not one bit surprised by Sy Hersh's report. With the administration seemingly hell-bent on bombing (possibly nuking) Iran then I had already thought that this may have been a build up to attack Iran.

Same as just about every country with a military. It's called being prepared.
Much like if you have kids you tell them what to do in a case of emergency doesn't mean you're gonn burn your house down.

DCGARDEN

Big F*cking Deal. Israel is one of the US chief Allies in that region. If together they can dispose of Sadamm Hussein, the Iranian cocksucker, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Hamas and any one else that Frank Drebbin smacked around in the opening scene of the Naked Gun, or at least hurt them, I say start banging the drums and get it on

robbie

DCGARDEN wrote:

Big F*cking Deal. Israel is one of the US chief Allies in that region. If together they can dispose of Sadamm Hussein, the Iranian cocksucker, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Hamas and any one else that Frank Drebbin smacked around in the opening scene of the Naked Gun, or at least hurt them, I say start banging the drums and get it on

you better be writing this on your way back from the recruitment office.

shiraz

What I really can't understand is how come few people here are not wondering about this well-writen article's lack of FACTS.

As I said many times before, I bet US, Europe (UN members) and Israel were watching Hizbullah's actions over the years (remember? we had a "preview" in 2003). If this attack was planed in advance then the outcome would have become different (=not too many civilians would have been killed & Hizbullah would have been destroyed). And just for the record, even our radical-left wing people are not buying that story.

What is it with you guys and conspiracy things? Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...

DCGARDEN

robbie wrote:

you better be writing this on your way back from the recruitment office.

Don't exactly follow you. To be in favor of the American military attacking Islamic-Fascism with force would mean I would have to strap on an AK-47 myself? Are you that f*cking naive? Shall I now ask you if Islamic Fascism has taken a loved one you held dear from your life? or should I put it in the ever-intelligent and well-thought out way that you did?

you better not have a lost a family member on 9/11.


Regards friend

Eliot Rosewater

shiraz wrote:

What is it with you guys and conspiracy things? Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...

But sometimes that cigar has been in and out of an intern's vagina and led to impeachment. We've got to keep an eye out, that's why we ask questions, shiraz. Nothing wrong with asking questions....and demanding answers.

RockinInCanada

don't gimme no wrote:

But sometimes that cigar has been in and out of an intern's vagina and led to impeachment. We've got to keep an eye out, that's why we ask questions, shiraz. Nothing wrong with asking questions....and demanding answers.

Is that not the reason we are considered "free" to ask and think as we may....BTW not talking about the cigar

shiraz

don't gimme no wrote:

But sometimes that cigar has been in and out of an intern's vagina and led to impeachment. We've got to keep an eye out, that's why we ask questions, shiraz. Nothing wrong with asking questions....and demanding answers.

some of you don't ask questions and wait for the answers, but asking and then assuming what the answers are according to their previous agenda. Others doing worse and don't even ask questions, just automaticly assuming things regardless the reality.

robbie

DCGARDEN wrote:

Don't exactly follow you. To be in favor of the American military attacking Islamic-Fascism with force would mean I would have to strap on an AK-47 myself? Are you that f*cking naive? Shall I now ask you if Islamic Fascism has taken a loved one you held dear from your life? or should I put it in the ever-intelligent and well-thought out way that you did?

you better not have a lost a family member on 9/11.


Regards friend

the only loved one i lost on 9/11 is my civil liberties, and it was not the terrorists who are taking them away. and as for not following me, you said something about banging the drums and getting it on. how perverse is it for you to cheer on a war you are to afraid to take part in? you wanna bang the drums of war while it is other people fighting in that war. you have such a stiffy for bloodshed, strap on the gear and catch some bullets so my 7 year old son does not have to in 11 years. there are plenty of lives at risk that are in the military that want nothing to do with your war while you sit behind a keyboard and jerk off to the thought of it.

Purple Hawk

robbie wrote:

the only loved one i lost on 9/11 is my civil liberties

Which one did you lose?