If this story had any legs at all Hillary would be hammering him on it daily. Have you seen her today? She's on the war path, do or die... she just compared Obama's talk of change to Bush's talk of change in Ohio today... "Look what 8 years of 'change' got us" "The american people got shafted..." She's desperate... this would be perfect for her but there isn't anything there.
She has brought it up and he just lied and wisked right by it. He'll lie and you guys will continue to eat it right up. It's obvious he's had a detailed past with this guy and on national tv he claimed to only have worked with the guy for 5 hours...misleading the public. He wasn't honest and at the very least played down his relations with him. Of course none of this will matter to you but if you guys are intent on painting a picture of this great beacon of change and hope...fresh air to the political spectrum then don't be surprised when others want to bring up things about him that look like more of the same old, same old, run of the mill politician who just happens to be young, black and great at motivational speaking. That's not enough to earn my vote and it's not enough to excuse the problems I have with his past and his record.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
If this story had any legs at all Hillary would be hammering him on it daily. Have you seen her today? She's on the war path, do or die... she just compared Obama's talk of change to Bush's talk of change in Ohio today... "Look what 8 years of 'change' got us" "The american people got shafted..." She's desperate... this would be perfect for her but there isn't anything there.
she might not want to open up the debate about campaign contributions
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
She has brought it up and he just lied and wisked right by it. He'll lie and you guys will continue to eat it right up. It's obvious he's had a detailed past with this guy and on national tv he claimed to only have worked with the guy for 5 hours...misleading the public. He wasn't honest and at the very least played down his relations with him. Of course none of this will matter to you but if you guys are intent on painting a picture of this great beacon of change and hope...fresh air to the political spectrum then don't be surprised when others want to bring up things about him that look like more of the same old, same old, run of the mill politician who just happens to be young, black and great at motivational speaking. That's not enough to earn my vote and it's not enough to excuse the problems I have with his past and his record.
Great dude... vote for McBush at least you know for sure we'll continue to be fucked :rolleyes:
Other than you not believing him what evidence proves contrary to what you are saying?
Great dude... vote for McBush at least you know for sure we'll continue to be fucked :rolleyes:
Other than you not believing him what evidence proves contrary to what you are saying?
Dudette, actually and I'm not voting for McBush.
There's plenty of evidence throughout this whole thread that points to Obama having dealings with Rezko that involved more than 5 hours of work one day. He wasn't honest about it and that kinda stuff matters to me. It doesn't seem to matter to you but to each their own.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
There's plenty of evidence throughout this whole thread that points to Obama having dealings with Rezko that involved more than 5 hours of work one day. He wasn't honest about it and that kinda stuff matters to me. It doesn't seem to matter to you but to each their own.
You and the rest of the flock get behind somebody worth supporting next time. You can't blame me for not going along with your bad choice.
My flock? How do you know what my intentions are for voting for Obama? Im not naive to think a career politician hasn’t had there brush ups with shady characters in their past. But Im also not dumb enough to sit back and make it easier for another fucking Bush to gain control of the White House.
My flock? How do you know what my intentions are for voting for Obama? Im not naive to think a career politician hasn’t had there brush ups with shady characters in their past. But Im also not dumb enough to sit back and make it easier for another fucking Bush to gain control of the White House.
I didn't say it was 'your' flock. I didn't claim to know your intentions. It's good to hear that you're not that naive. I'm not dumb either but I will not be voting for someone who has voted to fund the war a few times, supports and is funded by the nuclear power industry, has an undesirable healthcare plan imo, and has been dishonest. Not a chance. And I refuse to make my decision based on fear.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I didn't say it was 'your' flock. I didn't claim to know your intentions. It's good to hear that you're not that naive. I'm not dumb either but I will not be voting for someone who has voted to fund the war a few times, supports and is funded by the nuclear power industry, has an undesirable healthcare plan imo, and has been dishonest. Not a chance. And I refuse to make my decision based on fear.
You must be OK with the possibility of McBush in the white house.
You must be OK with the possibility of McBush in the white house.
I don't see a big enough difference between the other candidates to cause me to abandon my principles and vote for another guy who will keep us at war.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You must be OK with the possibility of McBush in the white house.
And what about 2012, 2016? Is there always gonna be some new 'McBush' I have to vote against in fear? Will we always have to settle for some mediocre Dem to offset the Republican vote while they get to keep picking whomever they wish? Now that's progress!! I remember hearing the same stuff in 04...'we just need to get Bush out and then vote for whoever you want.' Good luck at getting the things you wish to see in this country when you're too afraid to stand behind them.
Give me somebody worth voting FOR.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
And what about 2012, 2016? Is there always gonna be some new 'McBush' I have to vote against in fear? Will we always have to settle for some mediocre Dem to offset the Republican vote while they get to keep picking whomever they wish? Now that's progress!! I remember hearing the same stuff in 04...'we just need to get Bush out and then vote for whoever you want.' Good luck at getting the things you wish to see in this country when you're too afraid to stand behind them.
Give me somebody worth voting FOR.
You're awesome! You stand by what you believe in which is exactly what we expect from our elected officials!
Abook for Prez!
"...believe in lies...to get by...it's divine...whoa...oh, you know what its like..."
And what about 2012, 2016? Is there always gonna be some new 'McBush' I have to vote against in fear? Will we always have to settle for some mediocre Dem to offset the Republican vote while they get to keep picking whomever they wish? Now that's progress!! I remember hearing the same stuff in 04...'we just need to get Bush out and then vote for whoever you want.' Good luck at getting the things you wish to see in this country when you're too afraid to stand behind them.
Give me somebody worth voting FOR.
Who said anything about fear? Its common fucking sense McCain will keep us in perpetual war. Obama has said troops home by '09. You are hung up on this slum lord bullshit... While American kids are being blown up on portrol. But yeah let's talk about this real estate deal, or these nuclear power people cause that's more important than Americans getting limbs blown off. Think of them when you fuck write in Dennis, might as well vote for Micky fucking Mouse.
Who said anything about fear? Its common fucking sense McCain will keep us in perpetual war. Obama has said troops home by '09. You are hung up on this slum lord bullshit... While American kids are being blown up on portrol. But yeah let's talk about this real estate deal, or these nuclear power people cause that's more important than Americans getting limbs blown off. Think of them when you fuck write in Dennis, might as well vote for Micky fucking Mouse.
Drop the anger. If you can't manage to keep it civil I won't bother responding to your immaturity anymore. Do you know what fear means? Everything else past your first question in this post describes voting in fear. I'm not hung up on this anymore than the other issues I have with Obama. This thread happens to highlight his dishonesty so that's what we are talking about. I would consider this 4th on my list of problems I have with him. Mickey Mouse is not someone I admire, respect or believe in.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Drop the anger. If you can't manage to keep it civil I won't bother responding to your immaturity anymore. Do you know what fear means? Everything else past your first question in this post describes voting in fear. I'm not hung up on this anymore than the other issues I have with Obama. This thread happens to highlight his dishonesty so that's what we are talking about. I would consider this 4th on my list of problems I have with him. Mickey Mouse is not someone I admire, respect or believe in.
How do you know my state of mind? I'm not angry I'm shocked people can be so clueless. Your "maturity" comment is great, walk away then. But yeah write someone in, vote Nader. I just pray that there are enough people to make up for your wasted vote...
And to be clear you are the one who threw civil out the window with your condesending "flock" comment
How do you know my state of mind? I'm not angry I'm shocked people can be so clueless. Your "maturity" comment is great, walk away then. But yeah write someone in, vote Nader. I just pray that there are enough people to make up for your wasted vote...
Your need to resort to using 'dumb' or 'clueless' in an effort to make a point suggest anger or insecurity. If your point is so strong you wouldn't need to use personal attacks to make it. I'm not walking anywhere. I've made my point and feel pretty good about it.
If flock offended you, I am sorry. Insert masses and the point still stands.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Your need to resort to using 'dumb' or 'clueless' in an effort to make a point suggest anger or insecurity. If your point is so strong you wouldn't need to use personal attacks to make it. I'm not walking anywhere. I've made my point and feel pretty good about it.
If flock offended you, I am sorry. Insert masses and the point still stands.
I love it... "dont call me names, but let me call you a few". I just call it how I see it. Someone makes statement about being against the war but then makes another statement about voting for someone that has no chance in hell in stoping it... is, well stupid.
Flock didn't offend me, its just another stupid thing you have said. Implying everyone voting for Obama is some follower, that they dont want to end the war, or dont have hope for the possibility of something different.
How do you know my state of mind? I'm not angry I'm shocked people can be so clueless. Your "maturity" comment is great, walk away then. But yeah write someone in, vote Nader. I just pray that there are enough people to make up for your wasted vote...
And to be clear you are the one who threw civil out the window with your condesending "flock" comment
wouldn't it only take one vote to make up for hers? maybe my math is off...
yes, politicians rub up against shady ppl, but they don't always buy houses right next door to them then buy land from them and have them on their campaign finance committee, have fundraisers for his senate campaign at his house, then end up giving back, what was now, over $80,000 in donations including a good bit in his senate race, wrote a letter of recommendation b/c of his donations all the while acting like he never even met the guy or really knew of him.....or do they?
it's just odd, is all...a few months back w/ dennis his height, being a vegetarian...were hotpoint issues...now here's this guy who has one of the original NAFTA architects as his trade and economic advisor, got a lot of money from the credit card industry (then voted against capping interest rates at 30%, coincidence>), a lot of money from the nuclear power industry (and pushes it as 'green'), pushes a more 'affordable' health care system where many, even kids can and will go uninsured, which is far from a universal health care system that many claim
oh, he also voted to reauthorize the patriot act every time, voted to fund the war over and over (even said at one point we needed to stay in iraq until the insurgency was defeated and even then retain a permanent presence in iraq to let "iran and syria know we're serious" as well as other parts of the world, and you wanna talk about the soldiers????)
and continuously saying mcbush will win b/c of her one vote or even our 2 votes IS fearmongering. and to think the election will come down to 2 votes in South Carolina is laughable, surely you must see that? I refuse to give my support and vote to obama, hillary or mccain.
if you want to be honest the only wasted vote i ever made was for kerry and i will never do that again. the only way to truly waste your vote is to not vote based on your own ideals.
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
She has brought it up and he just lied and wisked right by it. He'll lie and you guys will continue to eat it right up. It's obvious he's had a detailed past with this guy and on national tv he claimed to only have worked with the guy for 5 hours...misleading the public. He wasn't honest and at the very least played down his relations with him. Of course none of this will matter to you but if you guys are intent on painting a picture of this great beacon of change and hope...fresh air to the political spectrum then don't be surprised when others want to bring up things about him that look like more of the same old, same old, run of the mill politician who just happens to be young, black and great at motivational speaking. That's not enough to earn my vote and it's not enough to excuse the problems I have with his past and his record.
He didn't lie. Most of the story has been debunked and blown out of proprtion as i've shown. He didn't do anything wrong, was involved in no scandal, din't buy his house with some "rezko discount". There is no story. If there was substance to it, he couldn't lie his way out of it. It has been investigated and found to be crap. Get over it. Find a new angle. This one isn't working.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
I love it... "dont call me names, but let me call you a few". I just call it how I see it. Someone makes statement about being against the war but then makes another statement about voting for someone that has no chance in hell in stoping it... is, well stupid.
Flock didn't offend me, its just another stupid thing you have said. Implying everyone voting for Obama is some follower, that they dont want to end the war, or dont have hope for the possibility of something different.
I didn't call you anything. The flock analogy holds true because the large group wants me to give up my individual concerns and follow them in their choice that I disagree with. It didn't mean I was saying anyone is dumb but yes, followers does apply here because they say other more ideal choices won't be accepted by the 'group'.
It makes no sense to me to say you're against war but then vote for someone who repeatedly votes funds it.
I never said anyone didn't want to end the war or that they didn't have hope of something different. Don't put words in my mouth. I merely think you're going about getting those things the wrong way if your going to support someone who is not going to bring them about.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
He didn't lie. Most of the story has been debunked and blown out of proprtion as i've shown. He didn't do anything wrong, was involved in no scandal, din't buy his house with some "rezko discount". There is no story. If there was substance to it, he couldn't lie his way out of it. It has been investigated and found to be crap. Get over it. Find a new angle. This one isn't working.
There's no way he only dealt with the guy for just 5 hours as he claimed on national tv. Lie.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
There's no way he only dealt with the guy for just 5 hours as he claimed on national tv. Lie.
What are you basing that on/ Your gut feeling?
"Myth #1: Obama did legal work for Rezko
Claim: Hillary Clinton during a debate denounced Obama for "representing your contributor, Rezko, in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago."
The truth: According to Factcheck.org, "Obama was associated with a law firm that represented the community groups working with Rezko on several deals. There's no evidence that Obama spent much time on them, and he never represented Rezko directly. So it was wrong for Clinton to say he was ‘representing ... Rezko.’ That's untrue." "
i'm done with this thread.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Didn't the whole Rezko thing come up when Obama said she was on the board at Wal Mart, and she fired back that he was working for Rezko? Well, he told the truth, he did about 5 hours of work for a company w/ dealings w/ Rezko. That's not a lie.
Has he collected money from him? Yes. You try and find any Chicago Democrat who hasn't. He did the right thing and returned the money. But as far as a working relationship, Obama was spot on with the 5 paid hours of work.
The land deal was a poor decision on his part and he has stated that time and time again. It isn't a big fucking deal though. It's not like he's got Rezko's dick in his mouth.
You bringing up Gov. Blagojevich though and the Rezko influence on him, and who the fuck cares? What's that have to do with Barack Obama. Rod Blagojevich is no Barack Obama by any stretch of the imagination.
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Did you know Obama bought a parcel of land from Rezko for his personal use? Anyone who has done any type of property closing knows that they don't close overnight. No way is that five hours true.
Did you know Obama bought a parcel of land from Rezko for his personal use? Anyone who has done any type of property closing knows that they don't close overnight. No way is that five hours true.
Was he getting paid for that? How does that consist of "working" for the guy? Obama got paid for five hours of work for a business partner of Rezko.
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She has brought it up and he just lied and wisked right by it. He'll lie and you guys will continue to eat it right up. It's obvious he's had a detailed past with this guy and on national tv he claimed to only have worked with the guy for 5 hours...misleading the public. He wasn't honest and at the very least played down his relations with him. Of course none of this will matter to you but if you guys are intent on painting a picture of this great beacon of change and hope...fresh air to the political spectrum then don't be surprised when others want to bring up things about him that look like more of the same old, same old, run of the mill politician who just happens to be young, black and great at motivational speaking. That's not enough to earn my vote and it's not enough to excuse the problems I have with his past and his record.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
she might not want to open up the debate about campaign contributions
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Great dude... vote for McBush at least you know for sure we'll continue to be fucked :rolleyes:
Other than you not believing him what evidence proves contrary to what you are saying?
Dudette, actually and I'm not voting for McBush.
There's plenty of evidence throughout this whole thread that points to Obama having dealings with Rezko that involved more than 5 hours of work one day. He wasn't honest about it and that kinda stuff matters to me. It doesn't seem to matter to you but to each their own.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Whom then Hillary?
It's in her signature!
As it stands, I'll either write in Kucinich or vote Nader. There's no one else in the race who I could vote for on good conscience.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
great... give McBush more of a shot... awesome.
You and the rest of the flock get behind somebody worth supporting next time. You can't blame me for not going along with your bad choice.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
My flock? How do you know what my intentions are for voting for Obama? Im not naive to think a career politician hasn’t had there brush ups with shady characters in their past. But Im also not dumb enough to sit back and make it easier for another fucking Bush to gain control of the White House.
I didn't say it was 'your' flock. I didn't claim to know your intentions. It's good to hear that you're not that naive. I'm not dumb either but I will not be voting for someone who has voted to fund the war a few times, supports and is funded by the nuclear power industry, has an undesirable healthcare plan imo, and has been dishonest. Not a chance. And I refuse to make my decision based on fear.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You must be OK with the possibility of McBush in the white house.
I don't see a big enough difference between the other candidates to cause me to abandon my principles and vote for another guy who will keep us at war.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
And what about 2012, 2016? Is there always gonna be some new 'McBush' I have to vote against in fear? Will we always have to settle for some mediocre Dem to offset the Republican vote while they get to keep picking whomever they wish? Now that's progress!! I remember hearing the same stuff in 04...'we just need to get Bush out and then vote for whoever you want.' Good luck at getting the things you wish to see in this country when you're too afraid to stand behind them.
Give me somebody worth voting FOR.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You're awesome! You stand by what you believe in which is exactly what we expect from our elected officials!
Abook for Prez!
Awww shucks
evenkat in the vp slot?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Who said anything about fear? Its common fucking sense McCain will keep us in perpetual war. Obama has said troops home by '09. You are hung up on this slum lord bullshit... While American kids are being blown up on portrol. But yeah let's talk about this real estate deal, or these nuclear power people cause that's more important than Americans getting limbs blown off. Think of them when you fuck write in Dennis, might as well vote for Micky fucking Mouse.
Drop the anger. If you can't manage to keep it civil I won't bother responding to your immaturity anymore. Do you know what fear means? Everything else past your first question in this post describes voting in fear. I'm not hung up on this anymore than the other issues I have with Obama. This thread happens to highlight his dishonesty so that's what we are talking about. I would consider this 4th on my list of problems I have with him. Mickey Mouse is not someone I admire, respect or believe in.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
How do you know my state of mind? I'm not angry I'm shocked people can be so clueless. Your "maturity" comment is great, walk away then. But yeah write someone in, vote Nader. I just pray that there are enough people to make up for your wasted vote...
And to be clear you are the one who threw civil out the window with your condesending "flock" comment
Your need to resort to using 'dumb' or 'clueless' in an effort to make a point suggest anger or insecurity. If your point is so strong you wouldn't need to use personal attacks to make it. I'm not walking anywhere. I've made my point and feel pretty good about it.
If flock offended you, I am sorry. Insert masses and the point still stands.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I love it... "dont call me names, but let me call you a few". I just call it how I see it. Someone makes statement about being against the war but then makes another statement about voting for someone that has no chance in hell in stoping it... is, well stupid.
Flock didn't offend me, its just another stupid thing you have said. Implying everyone voting for Obama is some follower, that they dont want to end the war, or dont have hope for the possibility of something different.
wouldn't it only take one vote to make up for hers? maybe my math is off...
yes, politicians rub up against shady ppl, but they don't always buy houses right next door to them then buy land from them and have them on their campaign finance committee, have fundraisers for his senate campaign at his house, then end up giving back, what was now, over $80,000 in donations including a good bit in his senate race, wrote a letter of recommendation b/c of his donations all the while acting like he never even met the guy or really knew of him.....or do they?
it's just odd, is all...a few months back w/ dennis his height, being a vegetarian...were hotpoint issues...now here's this guy who has one of the original NAFTA architects as his trade and economic advisor, got a lot of money from the credit card industry (then voted against capping interest rates at 30%, coincidence>), a lot of money from the nuclear power industry (and pushes it as 'green'), pushes a more 'affordable' health care system where many, even kids can and will go uninsured, which is far from a universal health care system that many claim
oh, he also voted to reauthorize the patriot act every time, voted to fund the war over and over (even said at one point we needed to stay in iraq until the insurgency was defeated and even then retain a permanent presence in iraq to let "iran and syria know we're serious" as well as other parts of the world, and you wanna talk about the soldiers????)
and continuously saying mcbush will win b/c of her one vote or even our 2 votes IS fearmongering. and to think the election will come down to 2 votes in South Carolina is laughable, surely you must see that? I refuse to give my support and vote to obama, hillary or mccain.
if you want to be honest the only wasted vote i ever made was for kerry and i will never do that again. the only way to truly waste your vote is to not vote based on your own ideals.
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
He didn't lie. Most of the story has been debunked and blown out of proprtion as i've shown. He didn't do anything wrong, was involved in no scandal, din't buy his house with some "rezko discount". There is no story. If there was substance to it, he couldn't lie his way out of it. It has been investigated and found to be crap. Get over it. Find a new angle. This one isn't working.
I didn't call you anything. The flock analogy holds true because the large group wants me to give up my individual concerns and follow them in their choice that I disagree with. It didn't mean I was saying anyone is dumb but yes, followers does apply here because they say other more ideal choices won't be accepted by the 'group'.
It makes no sense to me to say you're against war but then vote for someone who repeatedly votes funds it.
I never said anyone didn't want to end the war or that they didn't have hope of something different. Don't put words in my mouth. I merely think you're going about getting those things the wrong way if your going to support someone who is not going to bring them about.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
There's no way he only dealt with the guy for just 5 hours as he claimed on national tv. Lie.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
What are you basing that on/ Your gut feeling?
"Myth #1: Obama did legal work for Rezko
Claim: Hillary Clinton during a debate denounced Obama for "representing your contributor, Rezko, in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago."
The truth: According to Factcheck.org, "Obama was associated with a law firm that represented the community groups working with Rezko on several deals. There's no evidence that Obama spent much time on them, and he never represented Rezko directly. So it was wrong for Clinton to say he was ‘representing ... Rezko.’ That's untrue." "
i'm done with this thread.
Has he collected money from him? Yes. You try and find any Chicago Democrat who hasn't. He did the right thing and returned the money. But as far as a working relationship, Obama was spot on with the 5 paid hours of work.
The land deal was a poor decision on his part and he has stated that time and time again. It isn't a big fucking deal though. It's not like he's got Rezko's dick in his mouth.
You bringing up Gov. Blagojevich though and the Rezko influence on him, and who the fuck cares? What's that have to do with Barack Obama. Rod Blagojevich is no Barack Obama by any stretch of the imagination.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Was he getting paid for that? How does that consist of "working" for the guy? Obama got paid for five hours of work for a business partner of Rezko.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm