But if someone works overtime it is absolutely illegal to not pay them. Sure if the company has a no-overtime policy or if they exceed stated overtime limits then they can be reprimanded or fired but they have to pay the employee for the time worked.
Not if the company policy states that in order to be compensated for overtime you must start a minimum of ___ minutes BEFORE a given time. In this case, in order to get paid for it, you must show up BEFORE the half hour in order to get paid. Hell, they can say that you only get overtime if you wear green plaid, and guess what? Thats the way itll be.
Not if the company policy states that in order to be compensated for overtime you must start a minimum of ___ minutes BEFORE a given time. In this case, in order to get paid for it, you must show up BEFORE the half hour in order to get paid. Hell, they can say that you only get overtime if you wear green plaid, and guess what? Thats the way itll be.
From my experience in accounting and many years working with payroll laws that's not true. At least in my state....and I'm guessing most or all states are similar. They can control overtime by reprimanding those who don't comply with their company overtime policies but the law says they must pay the employee for all hours worked.
From my experience in accounting and many years working with payroll laws that's not true. At least in my state....and I'm guessing most or all states are similar. They can control overtime by reprimanding those who don't comply with their company overtime policies but the law says they must pay the employee for all hours worked.
What you're missing here is that an employee has no right to work overtime and get paid for it at their own whim. You, as an employee, can't just clock in at any time you please, work, call it overtime, and demand payment.
What you're missing here is that an employee has no right to work overtime and get paid for it at their own whim. You, as an employee, can't just clock in at any time you please, work, call it overtime, and demand payment.
Sure, but that behavior will likely lead to being fired. I've had to pay several employees who were going to quit anyway so worked a bunch of overtime on their last week to get some extra bucks but then getting fired for failure to comply with company policy. I've looked into this several times and like I said, it may vary from state to state but probably not by much. The law here says they must be paid.
they recently changed how you clock in and out at my work, no more scanning your hand but using badges now...they gave out something explaining the new rules and one part caught my eye and seems very wrong...i don't know how they can do this...
"The system has been set up w/ rounding limits. The rounds are as follows:
Overtime worked before the associates scheduled shift will be rounded to the nearest 1/2 hour.
Example: Associate works 8:00am - 5:00pm. They clock in at 7:31 the clock will round to 8:00, however if they clock at 7:30 the clock pays from 7:30. If the associate clocks in at 6:05am the clock pays from 6:30."
is that really 'the nearest 1/2 hour'? when i was taught rounding i wasn't taught you round 31 to 40, you round it down to 30. so wouldn't the nearest 1/2 hour from 7:31 be 7:30??
You work for retards.
Lets not even consider the compensation that you are entitled to under your state's laws. There's the issue of liability. Say you clock in at 7:35, and a light fixture falls on your head, requiring you to get 50 stitches. The clock says you punched in at 8am...so technically, the employer could contest your right to have been in the area when the accident occurred.
That sucks. Find a new job. Or, refuse to work overtime under the current clock standards.
they recently changed how you clock in and out at my work, no more scanning your hand but using badges now...they gave out something explaining the new rules and one part caught my eye and seems very wrong...i don't know how they can do this...
"The system has been set up w/ rounding limits. The rounds are as follows:
Overtime worked before the associates scheduled shift will be rounded to the nearest 1/2 hour.
Example: Associate works 8:00am - 5:00pm. They clock in at 7:31 the clock will round to 8:00, however if they clock at 7:30 the clock pays from 7:30. If the associate clocks in at 6:05am the clock pays from 6:30."
is that really 'the nearest 1/2 hour'? when i was taught rounding i wasn't taught you round 31 to 40, you round it down to 30. so wouldn't the nearest 1/2 hour from 7:31 be 7:30??
I think as long as they inform you, it's fine.
You're right, it's not really rounding to the nearest half-hour, though.
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He's right. Overtime isn't a right. And if they set up rules, no matter how stupid you think they are, you have two choices. Deal with their rules and get on with your job, or get a new job. At least you have a choice.
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I've spoken with accounts payable at my work and this is unlawful practice. However many employers get away with these policies because their employees don't make enough or haven't been there long enough to do anything about it. I spoke with a paralegal about sueing a company for unpaid time and the response was that the lawyer fees would exceed the settlement unless the employee has worked for the company for at least five years.
Unless you want to stay for five years, then sue the company. It's probably best to look for a job that has lawful policies.
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Not if the company policy states that in order to be compensated for overtime you must start a minimum of ___ minutes BEFORE a given time. In this case, in order to get paid for it, you must show up BEFORE the half hour in order to get paid. Hell, they can say that you only get overtime if you wear green plaid, and guess what? Thats the way itll be.
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What you're missing here is that an employee has no right to work overtime and get paid for it at their own whim. You, as an employee, can't just clock in at any time you please, work, call it overtime, and demand payment.
You work for retards.
Lets not even consider the compensation that you are entitled to under your state's laws. There's the issue of liability. Say you clock in at 7:35, and a light fixture falls on your head, requiring you to get 50 stitches. The clock says you punched in at 8am...so technically, the employer could contest your right to have been in the area when the accident occurred.
That sucks. Find a new job. Or, refuse to work overtime under the current clock standards.
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I think as long as they inform you, it's fine.
You're right, it's not really rounding to the nearest half-hour, though.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Ah, quit your hatin' and get back in line like the other worker ant slaves.
You've always got your daydreams...
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Unless you want to stay for five years, then sue the company. It's probably best to look for a job that has lawful policies.
Get to work.
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