why is baby palin not in bed...?

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  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    meme wrote:
    That's a load of crap, seriously. A baby is much more moveable and able to sleep in different circumstances than, say, a five year old at the same time in Denver a few days ago :rolleyes:

    Seriously, people, don't we have enough to criticize about this woman to leave the fucking mother bullshit alone?


    Whoa... hold on. I was just having a little fun. Hence the " :D "

    There is plenty to criticize, and I don't think anyone in this thread is relying on this to make a case against her.

    I do feel she is using her family to her advantage, and I don't agree with that. But I recognize that it's part of the game.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    cincybearcat wrote:
    So at what age does sleep stop mattering then? Jeesh.

    It was a TERRIFIC environment for the 5 month old because he was with his family.

    It doesn't make you a bad person, just really wrong on this. You're worried about the kid? C'mon, please. Did he look overstimulated to you? Guess what a baby does if they are overstimulated or not happy...they CRY, very loud. And then you take them somewhere else and calm them down and try to make them happy if you can, but you can't always do that. Because, they also cry for seemingly no reason.

    Anyhow, I'm sorry if I'm coming across harsh, but you post really pissed me off. I've had my daughter out at a basketball game till past 10 PM when she was 6month and 9 months old...she slept some at the game when she was tired, and she still a happy healthy baby.

    no worries...

    really, I was just asking...and as I said, I would not have my child in such an environment...again, that's just me...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    Whoa... hold on. I was just having a little fun. Hence the " :D "

    There is plenty to criticize, and I don't think anyone in this thread is relying on this to make a case against her.

    I do feel she is using her family to her advantage, and I don't agree with that. But I recognize that it's part of the game.


    How? By having them at the convention? She has done no different then anyone else. If they weren't there, imagine the criticism she woudl receive...

    "Where are her children", "What kind of mom leaves her kid for a speech"...a lot of sexist bullshit really.

    I know many hated Rudy's speech, but I would thin kthat 1 thing we can all agree on, when people are attacking Palin saying with 5 kids she doesn't have th eitme to be VP...when is the last time they asked that of a male candidate? That is insulting. It's akin to attacking Hillary and her pantsuits...it's an argument based solely in sexism.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    inmytree wrote:
    no worries...

    really, I was just asking...and as I said, I would not have my child in such an environment...again, that's just me...


    Ok, I would have my child there so long as she was behaving and not upset...if she was, I'd remove her from the environment. Her mom and I let her help dictate how much she can handle, trying not to be over-protective. Is it the right way? Who knows...

    Surely those that advocate women having the right to choose whether they give birth to a child or not believe women have the right to choose how they raise their kids as well.
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  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    What about the parents here who waste a significant amount of time on some band's message board instead of doing something productive for their kid/family..someone should start a thread about that ;)..wow..
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    put on a slow, dumb show for you
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    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Threads like this distract from the numerous issues that should be raised about Palin, and give credence to the right when complaining about how she is being treated.

    I have a seven month old son, and if my wife was nominated as the vice president of the united states, then I would want my son with me.


    I am a left leaning moderate, but these sort of threads bother me... Who are we to say how someone should arrange their babies sleep schedule? The left complain about the religious right trying to tell them how to live, then threads like this pop up telling others how to live.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Ok, I would have my child there so long as she was behaving and not upset...if she was, I'd remove her from the environment. Her mom and I let her help dictate how much she can handle, trying not to be over-protective. Is it the right way? Who knows...

    Surely those that advocate women having the right to choose whether they give birth to a child or not believe women have the right to choose how they raise their kids as well.

    I do...she can do as she pleases...

    I wonder why those who support government control over a womens body would be so riled by my question....;)
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Threads like this distract from the numerous issues that should be raised about Palin, and give credence to the right when complaining about how she is being treated.

    I have a seven month old son, and if my wife was nominated as the vice president of the united states, then I would want my son with me.


    I am a left leaning moderate, but these sort of threads bother me... Who are we to say how someone should arrange their babies sleep schedule? The left complain about the religious right trying to tell them how to live, then threads like this pop up telling others how to live.

    when did asking a question equal telling someone how they should live there lives...

    and good for you wanting you 7 month old child at a convention...

    for the record, she can keep her 5 month old special needs (<----her words, not mine) up all night...she can do whatever she pleases...

    I wonder, if the camera cut to some random 5 month old in the crowd at the RNC or DNC would people be so quick to defend...?

    for me, the bottom line is this, there is a time and place for everything...I just don't think this was the time or place for any child this age...
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    The Champ wrote:
    What about the parents here who waste a significant amount of time on some band's message board instead of doing something productive for their kid/family..someone should start a thread about that ;)..wow..

    go ahead....
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    Whoa... hold on. I was just having a little fun. Hence the " :D "

    There is plenty to criticize, and I don't think anyone in this thread is relying on this to make a case against her.

    I do feel she is using her family to her advantage, and I don't agree with that. But I recognize that it's part of the game.


    I'm sorry, I am just really sensitive on this issue and disappointed with all the "innocent questions". I also think it's a tough judgment call between using one's family to one's advantage and wanting to keep your family close on an extraordinary night.
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  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    The Champ wrote:
    What about the parents here who waste a significant amount of time on some band's message board instead of doing something productive for their kid/family..someone should start a thread about that ;)..wow..

    I know my daughter, with whom I have shared my every waking moment for the past two years, is really suffering whenever I step away from playing My Little Pony for two minutes to make a post on here!

    I'm so ashamed. Next thing you know, she'll be a pregnant teen. :eek:
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    meme wrote:
    I'm sorry, I am just really sensitive on this issue and disappointed with all the "innocent questions". I also think it's a tough judgment call between using one's family to one's advantage and wanting to keep your family close on an extraordinary night.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with having them there. It would have been weird if they weren't. I don't even think it's wrong to have the baby there.

    I do think the mccain campaign is relying a lot on the "Look, she's a MOMMY! You can relate to her!!!" That, I think, is cheap. It may describe one aspect of who she is, but it's not a very important part. I don't think it speaks to her ability to help lead a nation. (And yes, I know both sides do this...I just don't like the fact that it's part of the political discussion.)
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    I don't think there is anything wrong with having them there. It would have been weird if they weren't. I don't even think it's wrong to have the baby there.

    I do think the mccain campaign is relying a lot on the "Look, she's a MOMMY! You can relate to her!!!" That, I think, is cheap. It may describe one aspect of who she is, but it's not a very important part. I don't think it speaks to her ability to help lead a nation. (And yes, I know both sides do this...I just don't like the fact that it's part of the political discussion.)

    I don't know, I just think there is so much else we can pick upon, I wish people would leave all of the mommy stuff alone :)
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    meme wrote:
    I don't know, I just think there is so much else we can pick upon, I wish people would leave all of the mommy stuff alone :)

    does that include the term "hockey mom"...?
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    inmytree wrote:
    go ahead....

    It would only get nasty and wouldn't accomplish much aside from proving a silly point ;)..People will justify and make excuses for their actions.....and personally I don't care enough about how people here choose to run their lives..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    The Champ wrote:
    It would only get nasty and wouldn't accomplish much aside from proving a silly point ;)..People will justify and make excuses for their actions.....and personally I don't care enough about how people here choose to run their lives..

    thanks for joining the discussion...:)
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    inmytree wrote:
    does that include the term "hockey mom"...?


    It should.
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  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    inmytree wrote:
    does that include the term "hockey mom"...?

    Ok, let me put it this way. I think "hockey moms" (whatever that means) can be president or vice president. I think it is perfectly understandable that a man or a woman will want their children by their side on an extraordinary night. I do think she has the right to define herself as a mother without being deluged with sexist comments and criticism of her parenting skills.

    I hope to god she is not elected, I hope women remain in control of their bodies and teenagers across the country have the right to know about sexuality without putting up wish bullshit shame and bigotry. I think Brain of J.Lo.'s question about privacy in a different thread was a very legitimate one. I don't actually think Palin's election would be a real victory for women, but I do think NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING is to be gained by questioning bedtime, linking a mother's involvement in politics to a girl's pregnancy, or asserting that Palin is irresponsible in pursuing a political career as a mother of five.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Did anyone else feel a little dirty about her bringing up the fact that her son is "special needs"? It just seemed like such sleazy pandering basically using that issue to reach out to other special needs parents.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    meme wrote:
    I don't know, I just think there is so much else we can pick upon, I wish people would leave all of the mommy stuff alone :)

    I tend to agree, but it seems like she and McCain camp is trying to have it both ways. They have no problems bringing up the fact that she is a mother, wants to connect with other mothers, etc etc etc., but then when question rise about how her role as a mother of a large family (and an infant) will fit into the requirements of the VP job, they cry foul.
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