Is the 9/11 card still in play...?

digster

catch22 wrote:

you should run this by corporatewhore, who seems to think this is not what conservatives truly believe. apparently, in his mind the true conservatives are the rednecks christians touting these social issues.

the platform you describe is libertarian, not republican. that hasn't been the republican platform since the 70s. it amazes me that republicans are only now starting to realize it. apparently reagan made them feel so good he blinded them to the atrocities he visited upon their party.

Well, I think the change started with Reagan, and it became very apparent under Dubya. I have hope; the rising stars of the GOP (Arnold mainly) don't seem to give much of a shit about social issues, which is the right approach; personal liberty, live and let live. So it's pretty contradictory when Republicans today talk of Democrats being the party of 'big government'; they've both been the party of big government for quite a while now.

I would be a libertarian, except for a few things. I do feel a strong national defense is needed, and most libertarians I know believe in isolationism to an outstanding degree, which I feel is just not possible anymore. Also, libertarianism seems, from what I know about it, to be liberty at the expense of equality, i.e. it is completely hands off but fails to recognize and address the fact that different communities and peoples in this nation don't all start with the same blank slate. I'm for government involvement in things that are necessary to the general welfare of the people that the free market has proved in capable of doing. In this sense, I'm pretty liberal; i.e. I support a universal health care system and government intervention to allow everyone to receive a quality education regardless of background.

jimed14

Rudy Giuliani speaks tonight ... you can exepct a healthy dose of 9/11 references.

mammasan

jimed14 wrote:

Rudy Giuliani speaks tonight ... you can exepct a healthy dose of 9/11 references.

America's Mayor, the Mayor of 9/11, Mr Fucking 9/11 himself. I can't stand him. On 9/10/01 the man had something like a 37% approval rating all of a sudden he address the public in a couple of new conferences, something any decent mayor would do, and he is considered a fucking hero.