Is the 9/11 card still in play...?
inmytree
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I guess so, bushy played it again last night....
"We need a president who understands the lessons of September 11, 2001: that to protect America we must stay on offense, stop attacks before they happen and not wait to be hit again," Bush said. "The man we need is John McCain."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/03/rnc.post.analysis/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
"We need a president who understands the lessons of September 11, 2001: that to protect America we must stay on offense, stop attacks before they happen and not wait to be hit again," Bush said. "The man we need is John McCain."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/03/rnc.post.analysis/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
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What else can they run on. It's not like they can run of fiscal conservatism anymore. It's not like they can run on small government anymore. It's not like they can run on the Iraq war, the majority of Americans oppose the war, anymore. It's not like they can run on the economy.
Obama played it? How so? When I think of the so-called '9/11 card', I don't think of any mere mention of the event. It was the most seminal event of the last ten years, if not longer. Of course it's going to come up. When I think of the '9/11 card', I think of: "vote for John McCain or America will be attacked again", which was on fine display in Bush's speech last night. It is possible to have a meaningful foreign policy discussion without resorting to scare tactics, but that was not the case last night.
Yes Obama has played it but the Republicans think they own 9/11, specially that fuck-wad Guilliani. Sorry I have a deep seeded disgust for that man. I danced through out my home when Ron Paul bitch slapped that fucker after the first debate.
The fact we have not been hit since isnt really a victory...Its the way it was suppose to be prior to 9-11..people doing their JOBS.I'm also sick of Republicans saying we are winning in Iraq...Really????
Why because our brave soldiers are getting killed less frequently..theres still no political solution in sight(thats the only real victory)Its a shame this actually is effective in winning elections..too bad Republicans suck at governing
Causing war is really eliminating war.
fighting hate with hate....gas on a fire.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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this is exactly why i will not vote for mccain.
You and a lot of other people. That is the kiss of death.
If the Republicans really wanted to retain the Whitehouse they'd instruct Lil' Bush to endorse Obama.
it's less the dubya approval than the ideology of foreign policy. offensive national security is a scary thought to me. the cowboy response to 9/11 has destroyed this country in many ways. i cannot vote for someone who wants to keep on the same path.
Well, that's trickier. Obama has the good fortune of being junior enough to have avoided a lot of the original deployments, but I can infer how he would have voted based on his vote to extend the Patriot Act and to continue funding the war.
He has the benefit of being able to say he would have done something completely different, but he didn't elect to take that route with votes the past couple of years.
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“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
noun, verb, 9/11....
i think there is a vast difference between voting in the senate and leading as the president. i understand voting to continue funding. as long as the war is declared, it's just a big fuck you to our troops not to fund it. the patriot act vote bothers me a lot, but mccain fares no better on that one. i just think in the event of another 9/11, mccain would take the dubya path of whipping everyone into a bloodthirsty frenzy that led to the mess we're in, whereas, regardless of past votes, obama would be a much more intelligent and moderating influence on the country.
I heard this schpliel too and I thought 9/11, isn't there something else he could talk about? I guess NOT I gather they're only one that can keep us safe RIGHT!
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To be fair, he has a point. Republicans in America have little to run on right now, and they seemed to abandon the laudable core principles of the Republican party; a strong national defense, personal liberty and fiscal restraint. Does the Republican Party stand for any of these anymore? Certainly not the last two; is anyone going to argue that personal liberty increased under President Bush, with the erosion of civil liberties, the Patriot Act, the attempt to ban same-sex marriage. Their social issues platform is based on the restriction of individual freedom, from pro-life to anti-gay marriage. Fiscal restraint? The government BALLOONED under the two Bush terms. Bush is not only a bad president, but he is a terrible conservative. And since they can't run on typically Republican platforms, they run on wedge social issues, like border fences and gay marriage (cause God knows, it's more important if the gay couple down the road ties the knot then if we went to war under false pretenses), and scare tactics that make citizens feel like they are endangering themselves and their children if they vote for a Democrat. I hope some young GOPers take back the party from the hijacking of it by social conservatives. If that ever happens, I'd welcome it; hell, if the party based itself on personal liberty and fiscal restraint, while remaining socially liberal it would be a party I'd subscribe to. But unfortunately I don't see that day coming soon.
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The fact that 1 party will keep us safer than the other is a little hard to believe.
you should run this by corporatewhore, who seems to think this is not what conservatives truly believe. apparently, in his mind the true conservatives are the rednecks christians touting these social issues.
the platform you describe is libertarian, not republican. that hasn't been the republican platform since the 70s. it amazes me that republicans are only now starting to realize it. apparently reagan made them feel so good he blinded them to the atrocities he visited upon their party.
Well, I think the change started with Reagan, and it became very apparent under Dubya. I have hope; the rising stars of the GOP (Arnold mainly) don't seem to give much of a shit about social issues, which is the right approach; personal liberty, live and let live. So it's pretty contradictory when Republicans today talk of Democrats being the party of 'big government'; they've both been the party of big government for quite a while now.
I would be a libertarian, except for a few things. I do feel a strong national defense is needed, and most libertarians I know believe in isolationism to an outstanding degree, which I feel is just not possible anymore. Also, libertarianism seems, from what I know about it, to be liberty at the expense of equality, i.e. it is completely hands off but fails to recognize and address the fact that different communities and peoples in this nation don't all start with the same blank slate. I'm for government involvement in things that are necessary to the general welfare of the people that the free market has proved in capable of doing. In this sense, I'm pretty liberal; i.e. I support a universal health care system and government intervention to allow everyone to receive a quality education regardless of background.
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America's Mayor, the Mayor of 9/11, Mr Fucking 9/11 himself. I can't stand him. On 9/10/01 the man had something like a 37% approval rating all of a sudden he address the public in a couple of new conferences, something any decent mayor would do, and he is considered a fucking hero.