Poll: Iraqis back attacks on U.S. troops
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the moat idea must not have won the "hearts and minds"....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060928/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraqi_opinion_7;_ylt=AqVx6uySXdjzPNFDKyN0sngUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--
By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer 44 minutes ago
About six in 10 Iraqis say they approve of attacks on U.S.-led forces, and slightly more than that want their government to ask U.S. troops to leave within a year, according to a poll in that country.
The Iraqis also have negative views of Osama bin Laden, according to the early September poll of 1,150.
The poll, done for University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes, found:
_Almost four in five Iraqis say the U.S. military force in Iraq provokes more violence than it prevents.
_About 61 percent approved of the attacks — up from 47 percent in January. A solid majority of Shiite and Sunni Arabs approved of the attacks, according to the poll. The increase came mostly among Shiite Iraqis.
_An overwhelmingly negative opinion of terror chief bin Laden and more than half, 57 percent, disapproving of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
_Three-fourths say they think the United States plans to keep military bases in Iraq permanently.
_A majority of Iraqis, 72 percent, say they think Iraq will be one state five years from now. Shiite Iraqis were most likely to feel that way, though a majority of Sunnis and Kurds also believed that would be the case.
The PIPA poll, which included an oversample of 150 Sunni Iraqis, has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
The State Department, meanwhile, has also conducted its own poll, something it does periodically, spokesman Sean McCormack said. The State Department poll found that two-thirds of Iraqis in Baghdad favor an immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces, according to The Washington Post. McCormack declined to discuss details of the department's Iraq poll.
"What I hear from government representatives and other anecdotal evidence that you hear from Iraqis that is collected by embassy personnel and military personnel is that Iraqis do appreciate our presence there," he said. "They do understand the reasons for it, they do understand that we don't want to or we don't intend to be there indefinitely."
Iraqi officials have said Iraq's security was improving and expanding throughout the country, and most U.S. troops might be able to leave eventually.
Last week, Iraqi President Jalal Talibani told the United Nations that coalition forces should remain in Iraq until Iraqi security forces are "capable of putting an end to terrorism and maintaining stability and security."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060928/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraqi_opinion_7;_ylt=AqVx6uySXdjzPNFDKyN0sngUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--
By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer 44 minutes ago
About six in 10 Iraqis say they approve of attacks on U.S.-led forces, and slightly more than that want their government to ask U.S. troops to leave within a year, according to a poll in that country.
The Iraqis also have negative views of Osama bin Laden, according to the early September poll of 1,150.
The poll, done for University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes, found:
_Almost four in five Iraqis say the U.S. military force in Iraq provokes more violence than it prevents.
_About 61 percent approved of the attacks — up from 47 percent in January. A solid majority of Shiite and Sunni Arabs approved of the attacks, according to the poll. The increase came mostly among Shiite Iraqis.
_An overwhelmingly negative opinion of terror chief bin Laden and more than half, 57 percent, disapproving of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
_Three-fourths say they think the United States plans to keep military bases in Iraq permanently.
_A majority of Iraqis, 72 percent, say they think Iraq will be one state five years from now. Shiite Iraqis were most likely to feel that way, though a majority of Sunnis and Kurds also believed that would be the case.
The PIPA poll, which included an oversample of 150 Sunni Iraqis, has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
The State Department, meanwhile, has also conducted its own poll, something it does periodically, spokesman Sean McCormack said. The State Department poll found that two-thirds of Iraqis in Baghdad favor an immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces, according to The Washington Post. McCormack declined to discuss details of the department's Iraq poll.
"What I hear from government representatives and other anecdotal evidence that you hear from Iraqis that is collected by embassy personnel and military personnel is that Iraqis do appreciate our presence there," he said. "They do understand the reasons for it, they do understand that we don't want to or we don't intend to be there indefinitely."
Iraqi officials have said Iraq's security was improving and expanding throughout the country, and most U.S. troops might be able to leave eventually.
Last week, Iraqi President Jalal Talibani told the United Nations that coalition forces should remain in Iraq until Iraqi security forces are "capable of putting an end to terrorism and maintaining stability and security."
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can you say Vietnam....
-Big Fish
good point...outsiders have "nothing" to do with their problems...:rolleyes:
considering there were not bodies turning up tortured all the time BEFORE the U.S. invaded....I would say...maybe the outsider did have a bit to do w/ their problems.
-Big Fish
Keep rolling your eyes, its easier than thinking critically.
So all it takes is the presence of U.S. soldiers to lead to this kind of sectarian violence? I am not talking about attacks on U.S. troops, I am talking about Iraqis killing Iraqis. The sectarian problem in Iraq is not an American creation, and if U.S. troops left, the problem would probably get even worse.
Are you saying we are not to be blamed? If so, what's the basis?
I'm no supporter of the Iraq war, but this is just bullshit. Saddam and his thug sons committed their fair share of toture and rape long before we arrived.
you dont think saddams regime tortured anyone?
The U.S. is responsible for destabilizing Iraq ... However, they are not responsible for some Shi'ite deciding to take advantage of the chaos to kill some Sunnis (or vice versa). You guys speak of the Iraqis as if they have no choice, no free will ... Which is frankly bullshit and elitist. These people choose to fight each other for religious reasons. The U.S. presence might enable them, but it didn't create the original animosity.
um, ok...
let's examine this...the US invades (for whatever reason), war and death ensues, the Iraqi people want the US to leave, no plan in place to leave (unless you buy the Stand up/stand down thing), bombings contiue daily...
and they have the balls blame the people occupying their country...
yeah, I'll keep rolling my eyes...
Thats a very arrogant statement.
And I am not either. I think its a bullshit fucking war. That doesn't make me blame the Americans for every single problem over there, though.
Too bad you feel that way ... I stand by it. Personally, I think blaming Americans for everything is also arrogant, myopic, and ignorant, but that doesn't stop 80% of this board from doing just that.
Careful, they might stay that way.
Shoulda called it a "Watery Ring of Freedom" instead. They couldn't help but love it if we'd called it that.
perhaps if you engaged in some critical thinking, you'd see things differently...
It takes no critical thinking to blame the US for the world's problems.
You could try responding to what I wrote earlier ... I admitted that the U.S. had a destabilzing influence. But unless you already have underlying problems, an occupation should not produce this amount of civilian on civilian religious violence. The U.S. was the catalyst, sure. But years under Saddam Hussein laid the important groundwork for what is happening now.
Well America is the only superpower left. They control the world and every action they take has consequences. sometimes their good sometimes their bad. And they should take responsability when they screw up.
And I agree! But why attack my statement? What, the U.S. is the sole cause of all religious hatred in the world? Such a view is ridiculous. The situation in Iraq is more complex than one simple factor like U.S. troops on Iraqi soil.
So the US is guilty of nothing? Not that I'm saying that you are saying that, but when you guys use words like "all" and "everything" you are kind of implying that everyone is wrong for focusing on the bad things we are guilty of....
....like invading and occpying Iraq, sparking a civil war and all the violence that goes along with it.
It's a very simple equasion: we don't go into iraq=hundreds of thousands of people still alive.
The U.S. didn't put Saddam Hussein in power. If I didn't know you better, I'd chastise you for adding to the ignorance level.
True, but you are also cherry picking. You don't get far as a leader of a non nuke country if you don't bow to the US.
ok...I'll try...
yes, the US destabilized Iraq, we agree on that...however, I think where we may differ is this: the US had no plan for what to do after the removal of Saddam...I feel if you are going to break something, you should be prepared to fix it...you see, what is going on now is a horrible, i.e. blaming the Iraqi people for the results of a war forced upon them...the US broke Iraq, with no plan to fix Iraq, therefore, they (meaning those who pushed for, supported, created, had part it) should fix it...I read a quote somewhere, "you got us in, how are you going to get us out"...one has to admit, "stay the course" is not a plan...therefore, "more of the same" is not going to get it done...
how's that...?
I would say it does...to step outside of what one has been taught, to seriously look at one's own country and the choices of it's leaders takes critical thinking...
lapping up everything the powers-that-be say, not asking questions, not seek accountalbility is the easy and simple way out...