"Bush Bashing"

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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    From up here it looks like a deflection of anything you have a gripe with the government about.

    Look at New Orleans - Bashing Bush
    How much are we spending on the war - Bashing Bush
    Not enough armour for the troops - Bashing Bush
    Didn't heed any advanced warnings - Bashing Bush
    Prick should have nuked the middle east - Bashing Bush
    Illegal prisons around the world - Bashing Bush
    Why isn't anybody signing up to go to war - Bashing Bush
    Why do I have to go back to the war, again - Bashing Bush
    Why don't you take on somebody who actually has nu-cu-lar weapons - Bashing Bush
    Losing our freedoms - Bashing Bush

    And when all else fails. Bring up Clinton or some other prez you can reference against to make your arguement seem like you have a better excuse as to why Bush is the way he is.

    It is like reading this statement on the board. " I don't agree with the war and the fuck up that it is. But, I don't think Bush is doing a bad job." Ah, yeah. A comedy, a tragedy.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    PaperPlates wrote:
    There's criticism, with the goal of improving things, and there's blaming things on bush that are clearly out of his control or things handed to him by previous presidents, soley because you dislike the man. THAT to me is the difference. What is the goal of said criticism. "Bashing" is in now. All the comedians are doing it. All the celebrities are doing it. Its chic, apparently.
    Comedians?! They're doing their job! Haven't you ever seen Chevy Chase fall out of a helicopter as Gerald Ford? Ford seemed to handle it just fine, it got Chevy on the golf course with the president.

    You don't remember all the jokes and skits about the redneck peanut farming Carter family? What's going on now is TAME by comparison. They pick on Bush, sure, but they were ruthless to Carter's entire family, his young daughter included.

    How about Reagan? All the jokes about what an airhead he was?

    Bush I? Whether it was his goofy speaking style, or his puking on foreign heads of state, I remember plenty of jokes about him.

    And Clinton, my god ... you MUST remember that! He made it so easy for them, every comedian loves a good sex joke.

    There's nothing new here ... serving as fodder for the nation's comedians is part of the job.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Open wrote:

    As far as war techniques go, for someone to run on moral values, then advocated torture...that shoulnt be bashed.


    drastic measures must be taken on preventing a nuclear bomb from going off in this country. the senate and house seem to agree.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    pushmepullme wrote:
    I love bush bashing. I used to get really fucked off by the stupid prick, then i decided its far more fun to mock him. And its brilliant when Bush lovers bite! So here goes:

    George Bush is a greater threat to your national security than Al Qaeda ever was, and shall ever be.

    Let the bites, begin! :)

    nmytree, i think this answers your question
  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    hippiemom wrote:
    They pick on Bush, sure, but they were ruthless to Carter's entire family, his young daughter included.

    And Clinton, my god ... you MUST remember that! He made it so easy for them, every comedian loves a good sex joke.

    Some of the harshest attacks during the Clinton administration weren't even on him, they were aimed at Hillary, and sometimes even Chelsea, who was a freaking teenager then.

    And not for nothing, but for reasons passing all understanding, the #1 comedy tour in the country for the past few years has been the Blue Collar Comedy Tour, featuring Larry the Cable Douchebag. I know that Larry is a big Bush supporter, and I doubt that the other guys do a lot of anti-Bush material.
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  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    jlew24asu wrote:
    drastic measures must be taken on preventing a nuclear bomb from going off in this country. the senate and house seem to agree.

    That bill is a joke and the only reason it went through is so Republicans can use it as an example of their party's "strength on national security" from now until November.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Well, Bill Clinton may have "tried", but he sorta dumped that whole "bin laden thing" on georgie. For starters.



    uhhhh, his term was over...what was he supposed to do, be like guliani and not step down when his term expired??
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this is very true. but he is also "bashed" on many other issues besides Iraq. for example, the techniques used on the war on terror. people see it from both sides. if they dont agree, like most here, they bash. see definition above.


    bash or disagree?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    John Budge wrote:
    I'm sure no con or comedian ever bashed Clinton for the sake of ratings or being chic.


    hell, even bill hicks attacked clinton!
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    Some of the harshest attacks during the Clinton administration weren't even on him, they were aimed at Hillary, and sometimes even Chelsea, who was a freaking teenager then.

    And not for nothing, but for reasons passing all understanding, the #1 comedy tour in the country for the past few years has been the Blue Collar Comedy Tour, featuring Larry the Cable Douchebag. I know that Larry is a big Bush supporter, and I doubt that the other guys do a lot of anti-Bush material.
    Hillary is a public figure and I think she's a legitimate target for comedians, but picking on Chelsea was just cruel.

    Anyone remember poor Billy Carter? All that guy wanted to do was hang around his gas station and drink beer. Not the most noble goal, I'll grant you that, but he never asked to be put in the spotlight, and people would not let him be. They also mocked Lillian, President Carter's elderly mother, and his daughter Amy, who was just a little girl when her dad got elected.
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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    Oh, Jesus Christ. Did you not watch tv or listen to the radio from 1992-2000? Yeah, the entertainment industry just decided to start criticizing politicians last week.

    I will never understand why some actor/musician criticizing the President gets some people bent so out of shape. These right wing radio people harp about it constantly. "These unqualified celebrities spouting their unsolicited opinions, etc. etc." I find these criticisms pretty ironic coming from a bunch of overbearing, condescending fat-asses whose main job is to run their mouths.

    I do believe the level and viciousness that is directed at Mr. Bush is FAR more "over the top" than in the 90's.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    That bill is a joke and the only reason it went through is so Republicans can use it as an example of their party's "strength on national security" from now until November.


    you left out, "in your opinion"
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    hippiemom wrote:
    Comedians?! They're doing their job! Haven't you ever seen Chevy Chase fall out of a helicopter as Gerald Ford? Ford seemed to handle it just fine, it got Chevy on the golf course with the president.

    You don't remember all the jokes and skits about the redneck peanut farming Carter family? What's going on now is TAME by comparison. They pick on Bush, sure, but they were ruthless to Carter's entire family, his young daughter included.

    How about Reagan? All the jokes about what an airhead he was?

    Bush I? Whether it was his goofy speaking style, or his puking on foreign heads of state, I remember plenty of jokes about him.

    And Clinton, my god ... you MUST remember that! He made it so easy for them, every comedian loves a good sex joke.

    There's nothing new here ... serving as fodder for the nation's comedians is part of the job.

    why do so many of you here selectively choose one part of a larger statement, and mock it or w/e whilst ignoring the rest? My post mirrored several others in multiple points, yet this is what you choose to "discuss" with me.
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Did I miss where that was the topic of this thread?

    Bush bashers are lining up for this thread. :0

    well, you decided to lay the blame for bin laden on clinton. im just saying bush is doing no better. clinton tried, i dont think you can fault him for not being able to pull off something that nobody has been able to pull off.
  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you left out, "in your opinion"

    Yes, IN MY OPINION, it's an unbelievably bad idea to let any president, especially this one, have the last word on defining what constitutes torture.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    PaperPlates wrote:
    why do so many of you here selectively choose one part of a larger statement, and mock it or w/e whilst ignoring the rest? My post mirrored several others in multiple points, yet this is what you choose to "discuss" with me.
    Sheer laziness. I picked the easiest part. It's Friday.

    Ok, ok, I'll move on ....
    PaperPlates wrote:
    There's criticism, with the goal of improving things, and there's blaming things on bush that are clearly out of his control or things handed to him by previous presidents, soley because you dislike the man.
    Every president is handed things by his predecessor, some good and some bad. Six years down the road, you can't blame your predecessor any more. You've had six years to fix what needed fixing, these things are now YOUR problems. Criticizing a president over inherited problems after 6 months in office is ridiculous ... after 6 years, it's perfectly legitimate.
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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    jlew24asu wrote:
    drastic measures must be taken on preventing a nuclear bomb from going off in this country. the senate and house seem to agree.

    Come on dude...the inspectors said he had nothing..there was no threat.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Open wrote:
    Come on dude...the inspectors said he had nothing..there was no threat.


    im not talking about Iraq. im talking about captured el queda members.


    every time it always comes back to Iraq.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you left out, "in your opinion"

    Yes it is "in your opinion", but here is a question: Have you ever been involved in political campaigns at this level or worked at this level of government?

    This vote was done on a very political and partisan way. Now the Republicans can say, "Democrats voted against using any means possible to catch terrorists, while we will stop of nothing to protect you and your freedom" (Even if it is un-constitutional)
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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    jlew24asu wrote:
    im not talking about Iraq. im talking about captured el queda members.


    every time it always comes back to Iraq.

    It should come back to Iraq dude. It's like OJ saying it always comes back to the murders.

    Regarding al queda...say there was a nuclear threat from al queda, why just let them hang in the mountains and regroup? Do u not think it would be more logical if we focused all our effort on the real threat el queda, as opposed to the supposed threat (Iraq)?

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