questions for those who think global warming is a myth...

inmytree
inmytree Posts: 4,741
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
why do you fight the concept...? what I mean is, if you don't believe, why do you care what Al Gore or anyone else is saying...? why not keep living how you are living...?
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    I don't think global warming is a myth. But I'll fight anyone's attempt to change my life without my approval, if that's what you're driving at.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Because of Manbearpig.........

    edit: "I'm totally cereal"
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I don't think global warming is a myth. But I'll fight anyone's attempt to change my life without my approval, if that's what you're driving at.

    how are they attempting to change your life...?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    inmytree wrote:
    how are they attempting to change your life...?

    You tell me: what's the solution to global warming?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    farfromglorified wrote:
    You tell me: what's the solution to global warming?

    so, "they" really aren't trying to change your life...?
  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    farfromglorified wrote:
    You tell me: what's the solution to global warming?


    exactly,... everyone is wasting their time on the debate about how to fix something we don't understand fully. anybody who says man hasn't adversely effected the environment is a fucking idiot, but we don't know exactly what to do about climate change. the media, Al Gore, and every scientist in the world should be trying to educate the masses on how to conserve and find alternative fuel sources. stop polluting, stop wasting,... that is the first step
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
    ~Ron Burgundy
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    inmytree wrote:
    so, "they" really aren't trying to change your life...?

    I think "they" are. My question is, are you?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    sonicreducer wrote:
    exactly,... everyone is wasting their time on the debate about how to fix something we don't understand fully. anybody who says man hasn't adversely effected the environment is a fucking idiot, but we don't know exactly what to do about climate change. the media, Al Gore, and every scientist in the world should be trying to educate the masses on how to conserve and find alternative fuel sources. stop polluting, stop wasting,... that is the first step

    Very well done. And no, we don't need the media or Al Gore or grant-sucking scientists. We just need people like this:

    http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/11/15/honda-fcx-concept-fuel-cell-car-pt-1-the-new-fuel-cell-stack/
  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Very well done. And no, we don't need the media or Al Gore or grant-sucking scientists. We just need people like this:

    http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/11/15/honda-fcx-concept-fuel-cell-car-pt-1-the-new-fuel-cell-stack/

    i still have so much to learn about these technologies. i've debated on whether to have a new car payment on some type of hybrid. im still in college, but my truck is paid off. i don't know,... maybe this summer when i have time to explore more
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
    ~Ron Burgundy
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    sonicreducer wrote:
    stop polluting, stop wasting,... that is the first step

    This IS the first step. FarFrom..., how is being aware of what you're contributing to our environment in a negative way changing your life? How about being more realistic that our planet isn't for our disposal? That doesn't necessarily change one's life, it's just about being more aware.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I think "they" are. My question is, are you?


    I'm not trying to change your lifestyle, my friend..I'm making changes for me and how I live, if that makes sense...
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    sonicreducer wrote:
    i still have so much to learn about these technologies. i've debated on whether to have a new car payment on some type of hybrid. im still in college, but my truck is paid off. i don't know,... maybe this summer when i have time to explore more

    A hybrid is a great start. The hybrid Civic honda released this year is a great vehicle, as is the Prius.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    inmytree wrote:
    I'm not trying to change your lifestyle, my friend..I'm making changes for me and how I live, if that makes sense...

    That makes a ton of sense.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Jeanwah wrote:
    This IS the first step. FarFrom..., how is being aware of what you're contributing to our environment in a negative way changing your life? How about being more realistic that our planet isn't for our disposal? That doesn't necessarily change one's life, it's just about being more aware.

    Awareness is wonderful. I have absolutely no problem with awareness. Being aware doesn't change your life, at least not in the sense I meant above. It enhances your life, and that's always a good thing.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Very well done. And no, we don't need the media or Al Gore or grant-sucking scientists. We just need people like this:

    http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/11/15/honda-fcx-concept-fuel-cell-car-pt-1-the-new-fuel-cell-stack/

    question: would honda have spent money on developing this concept car if the grant-sucking scientists did not do there work...?

    I understand your point, you're a "private business for everything" type of fella, which is not an insult...I'm just thinking honda wouldn't be the addressing the problem if there where no problem...
  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Awareness is wonderful. I have absolutely no problem with awareness. Being aware doesn't change your life, at least not in the sense I meant above. It enhances your life, and that's always a good thing.

    are you basically attacking the idea of the 'scare tactics'? like, people saying we have to change drastically or the world will end, but they have a secret agenda type thing?
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
    ~Ron Burgundy
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    sonicreducer wrote:
    i still have so much to learn about these technologies. i've debated on whether to have a new car payment on some type of hybrid. im still in college, but my truck is paid off. i don't know,... maybe this summer when i have time to explore more

    pick up a cheap diesel...older vw's are out there and many are fixing them up and selling them at a reasonable price (and some aren't)...

    diesel is now cleaner, and you can also run it on biodiesel with little or no modification...

    with some modification you can run it on waste veggie oil...
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    sonicreducer wrote:
    are you basically attacking the idea of the 'scare tactics'? like, people saying we have to change drastically or the world will end, but they have a secret agenda type thing?

    Of course.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    inmytree wrote:
    question: would honda have spent money on developing this concept car if the grant-sucking scientists did not do there work...?

    Yes. Honda's been working on fuel cell stacks for a lot longer than grant-sucking scientists have been trying to scare the shit out of me about global warming.
    I understand your point, you're a "private business for everything" type of fella, which is not an insult...I'm just thinking honda wouldn't be the addressing the problem if there where no problem...

    Hehe...so I guess Christian Friedrich Schönbein and Otto Hahn had time machines?
  • sourdough
    sourdough Posts: 579
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I don't think global warming is a myth. But I'll fight anyone's attempt to change my life without my approval, if that's what you're driving at.
    How specfically are they trying to change your life? By passing regulation etc on pollution? We already have regulations. We cannot litter on the street, we cannot pour oil down the drain, we cannot do many things that we want to do or may have been free to do in the past. Am I missing your point?

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